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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 15:56:11
December 13 2017 15:51 GMT
#26861
On December 13 2017 21:20 Quateras wrote:
Like on poe.trade use 1 handed weapons(be more specific here if you took claw/mace/sword nodes etc.), scroll down to "buyout" max 2 or 3 chaos max (you should easily have that much)
Then let it search, after the search is done , click on the pdps of any weapon.
This will then change the search and will put the highest pdps weapon for your price listed at , at the top.

Wow neat, didn't know it could sort like this. Thanks!

Last night while shopping for other life/res gear I ended up buying two Callinellus Maximus for super cheap just for the time being, but I'm still keeping my eye out.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 13 2017 17:17 GMT
#26862
Guide I'm using recommends bloodseeker and scourge as my weaps but scourge is hella expensive and I'm super poor this league---all the rares and early uniques I've found are completely worthless this time around for whatever reason.

Any replacement claws anyone can recommend for BF build?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 13 2017 17:33 GMT
#26863
Scourge comes down to real cheap pretty soon, It's only expensive because the number of people doing guardians right now isn't that high just yet.

I don't know the rest of your build but a generic phys claw should cover it for now. You can get a 285pdps "allure" claw for 3c. No downsides except for unexciting crit chance, if that even matters. Eventually scourge will help your bloodseeker hits do way more damage but for now no reason stress that you can't afford it for lower level content.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 13 2017 19:27 GMT
#26864
Thanks dudeman
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 21:40:39
December 13 2017 21:38 GMT
#26865
On December 13 2017 12:06 sung_moon wrote:
To my brothers playing VD, what exactly are you linking it with?

I have on my 5L, VD+ Cascade+Ele Focus+Fire Pen+ Power Charge Crit (playing Assassin). I've heard Concentrated Effect seems fine. Not sure how far into mapping I'll get with this lol.

VD - Conc Effect - Ele Focus - Fire Pen - Spell Cascade - Spell Echo, in a Tabula.

As I get into higher maps where mob HP goes up, I'll probably have to drop one of the less multipliers (probably Spell Echo) for another damage gem, but for now it feels really good to pop an entire Cascaded Desecrate's worth of corpses with one click.

*edit* In other news, VD definitely stands for Venereal Disease and that's a problem for this build.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 13 2017 23:42 GMT
#26866
Wow those are some nice rings evo :D

hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 14 2017 00:10 GMT
#26867
I'm just meatball spinning around, played a lot first few das and got my axe, 5 link belly, devoto, and xophs neck. I can't stay in red maps though, thinking of just buying some guardian maps and trying to farm those but not really sure. Haven't really had the issue of having my gear out scale my map drops by this much.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 02:24:38
December 14 2017 00:51 GMT
#26868
MS+AC is seriously so fucking fun.

My survivability is catching up, white maps are no issue at all now, as it should be, and the passives post-70 have made a bigger difference than I expected when I was planning my tree which is nice. I'm wondering what I could invest in to really hit ez mode where I can autopilot white/yellow maps while watching stuff and not worry about damage lol. Gladiator supposed to be tanky >:|

My chest is pretty uninspiring and only a 4L, maybe I'll get a Carcass Jack
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 14 2017 03:05 GMT
#26869
Grab a bringer of rain, they're quite cheap and it's effectively a free 6 link until you get better gear.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
December 14 2017 03:36 GMT
#26870
kira tornado spam brought health from 3k to 0 in less than a second right in the middle of shield charge animation. im fine with most hc rips but this one is really Bullshit with a capital B as far as im concerned
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 05:02:03
December 14 2017 04:58 GMT
#26871
On December 14 2017 09:51 Duka08 wrote:
MS+AC is seriously so fucking fun.

My survivability is catching up, white maps are no issue at all now, as it should be, and the passives post-70 have made a bigger difference than I expected when I was planning my tree which is nice. I'm wondering what I could invest in to really hit ez mode where I can autopilot white/yellow maps while watching stuff and not worry about damage lol. Gladiator supposed to be tanky >:|

My chest is pretty uninspiring and only a 4L, maybe I'll get a Carcass Jack

What are your defensive stats looking like?

Gladiator is tanky. Even with only 5k health and no VP I'm basically at full health 100% of the time in yellow maps and nothing ever comes remotely close to being dangerous.

Make sure you're using all your available secondary defensive options. Fortify, Endurance charges, CWDT setup, Flasks, etc. Your gear is only the beginning of your defenses, and a lot of being tanky is maintaining all these secondary temporary effects.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 07:22:25
December 14 2017 07:10 GMT
#26872
On December 14 2017 13:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 09:51 Duka08 wrote:
MS+AC is seriously so fucking fun.

My survivability is catching up, white maps are no issue at all now, as it should be, and the passives post-70 have made a bigger difference than I expected when I was planning my tree which is nice. I'm wondering what I could invest in to really hit ez mode where I can autopilot white/yellow maps while watching stuff and not worry about damage lol. Gladiator supposed to be tanky >:|

My chest is pretty uninspiring and only a 4L, maybe I'll get a Carcass Jack

What are your defensive stats looking like?

Gladiator is tanky. Even with only 5k health and no VP I'm basically at full health 100% of the time in yellow maps and nothing ever comes remotely close to being dangerous.

Make sure you're using all your available secondary defensive options. Fortify, Endurance charges, CWDT setup, Flasks, etc. Your gear is only the beginning of your defenses, and a lot of being tanky is maintaining all these secondary temporary effects.

I'm covered on all of the above except endurance charges. Won't get those going until I take Outmatch and Outlast (actually considering taking it for Merc lab and saving Versatile Combatant for last, but maybe the latter is more impactful than it sounds??). CWDT is Enfeeble + Immortal Call (and my golem, for laziness).

No VP here either, though my passive regen doesn't feel mindblowing or anything. Only 3.5k life atm though, that's a huge part of it. Spiky unreactable damage was more of an issue than consistent incoming damage I can react to with seething/bubbling flask. I have life rolls on mostly everything I think, some are mediocre, but not enough from tree. My next 5-10 points are all going into that.

Using Basalt and armor flask too, is there a third I should mix in? Jade maybe? I was using Divination Distillate as my 5th for the small lootz bonus but if another flask would be a huge survivability boost I'll happily swap. I don't mind drumming those things all the time. My damage feels adequate enough not to use a Silver/Sulphur.

Edit: just realized I'm not taking any extra endurance charges in my tree even though Outmatch and Outlast will eventually feed me some. Worth it to pick up 1-2? Not sure what I'd cut yet but I don't have a good feel for how much endurance charges help in general, let alone if an extra one would be worth cutting some life nodes for for example
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 08:23:46
December 14 2017 08:13 GMT
#26873
You can basically always get Endurance charges by running Enduring Cry, since it doesn't need any supports and can kind of just be squeezed in anywhere you have a free socket. Even when you have O&O it's useful because you can get Endurance charges on bosses where you don't have constant kills.

If you have an open flask slot, Wise Oak is affordable enough at this point.

What order did you get your Ascendancies in? I would expect to get Gratuitous Violence/O&O first.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 14 2017 08:27 GMT
#26874
Maaan, I got off to a solid start this league, but all of a sudden I get sick to the point where I can't really play. The struggle is too real.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7729 Posts
December 14 2017 08:35 GMT
#26875
Mapping feels so much better than the last league, monster density improvements make even Dungeon worthwhile and fun
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 08:50:57
December 14 2017 08:37 GMT
#26876
On December 14 2017 17:13 TheYango wrote:
You can basically always get Endurance charges by running Enduring Cry, since it doesn't need any supports and can kind of just be squeezed in anywhere you have a free socket. Even when you have O&O it's useful because you can get Endurance charges on bosses where you don't have constant kills.

If you have an open flask slot, Wise Oak is affordable enough at this point.

What order did you get your Ascendancies in? I would expect to get Gratuitous Violence/O&O first.

I took Gratuitous first but then I was going for the Painforged+Versatile pair next for survivability. Already have Painforged but I'll happily take O&O next tbh.

And yeah, I hadn't originally planned on using Enduring Cry just because extra buttons, but I'll squeeze it in for now and see how it goes. Less annoying to use than Frenzy for manual charge generation at least (which I'm already doing when I really need the boost, mainly abysses and bosses). I'll probably grab two +1 endurance charge nodes too within the next few levels, I found a way to work them into my lvl90 tree without sacrificing much.

Edit: I guess I could just link my character lol. Only real plan tree-wise is to pick up the two Endurance charges, and the Frenzy charge + jewel slot over by Herbalism. After that it's just stray life nodes really. Picked up some pieces tonight to reach ~4k life.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 10:38:35
December 14 2017 08:55 GMT
#26877
If you want a budget weapon for Molten Strike, the new Grelwood Shank sword is actually pretty good for it and are dirt cheap. It has lower pDPS than the maces you're using but higher DPS in practice due to the +2 Projectiles mod. It also has way higher APS so using it with movement skills isn't total cancer (seriously I hate using Leap Slam/Shield Charge with maces that aren't Brightbeak).

I wouldn't go overboard on the Endurance charge nodes personally. 1 is fine but don't go crazy on them. Life nodes are definitely important.
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 14 2017 09:25 GMT
#26878
Bringer of rain also gives endurance charges right, or am i dreaming....
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 15:23:34
December 14 2017 15:17 GMT
#26879
On December 14 2017 17:37 Duka08 wrote:
Edit: I guess I could just link my character lol. Only real plan tree-wise is to pick up the two Endurance charges, and the Frenzy charge + jewel slot over by Herbalism. After that it's just stray life nodes really. Picked up some pieces tonight to reach ~4k life.

Why are you running "damage on full life" lol get that shit outta there and run the melee physical damage instead. There's no way you are consistently on full life.

Also you can craft a resist on your amulet which will allow you to get a ring with life instead of that one you are wearing with lots of res but no life.

Also those boots are very unexciting but I guess not like a must-replace right now.

Also both your abyss jewels are quite underwhelming. Flat lightning damage to attacks isn't that exciting since all your scaling is physical and you don't use axes, crits or daggers so the biggest upside is the all-res. Get some with life IMO (also don't take the 3-node socket behind literal 4% dmg nodes lmao)

If you are going to run Granite + Basalt, one of them should really be of iron skin for the 60-100% increased armour. I'd say preferably the granite, but you really need a staunching flask and the "of reflexes" on your basalt isn't very good.
On December 14 2017 18:25 Duvon wrote:
Bringer of rain also gives endurance charges right, or am i dreaming....

some super low % chance on block, still very good with glad
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 14 2017 17:07 GMT
#26880
On December 15 2017 00:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Why are you running "damage on full life" lol get that shit outta there and run the melee physical damage instead. There's no way you are consistently on full life.

Also you can craft a resist on your amulet which will allow you to get a ring with life instead of that one you are wearing with lots of res but no life.

Also those boots are very unexciting but I guess not like a must-replace right now.

Also both your abyss jewels are quite underwhelming. Flat lightning damage to attacks isn't that exciting since all your scaling is physical and you don't use axes, crits or daggers so the biggest upside is the all-res. Get some with life IMO (also don't take the 3-node socket behind literal 4% dmg nodes lmao)

If you are going to run Granite + Basalt, one of them should really be of iron skin for the 60-100% increased armour. I'd say preferably the granite, but you really need a staunching flask and the "of reflexes" on your basalt isn't very good.

- Dmg on full life looked better in PoB because it applies to the balls of MS and not only the initial melee hit? It simmed to be a much bigger gain. But yeah, during leveling it was easy to have full life, now not as much, will probably switch and save that for later 5/6L.

- I have had plenty of resists for the most part since finishing A10 so it didn't even cross my mind to craft some extra on pieces and then get life on others. Will look into that.

- The abyss jewels are holdovers from leveling where the flat dmg was super nice. I haven't gotten a single attractive jewel since like lvl 30-40 D: more to shop for I guess, I just always assume decent jewels are expensive. Maybe not this league though with the abyss stuff dropping like candy.

- I ran low on alts for rolling flasks so I had to stick with what I have now lol. Especially the basalt roll zzzzzz. I'll keep iron skin in mind when I do future rolls though.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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