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ALLEYCAT BLUES49498 Posts
On August 15 2012 16:18 NB wrote:got my first Legendary today.... sadly i cant use it :-/ Now i either need to trade or create an INT class  WHY CANT IT BE A DEX LEGENDARY ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YX3Kd.png) tell me what should i do with this, i have no clue how trading currency worth in this game
it seems interesting, I'd like to have a go at it.
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In the ID and blue debate:
There are a number of ways to play this part of the game and I don't think any of them are bad.
1. You collect white items to gain ID-scrolls and blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. This one will take up all your Portal Scrolls and Scrolls of Wisdom just as it will add quite a lot of time to level-progression. It is possible to balance this way of playing, by selling Transmutation Orbs, Alteration Orbs, Armourers Scraps and Blacksmiths Whetstones for Scrolls of Wisdom and buying Portal Scrolls from vendors for Scrolls of Wisdom. I suspect you might have a netto loss of profit on this, but you might be able to stack up on the iitems you like while getting rid of the rest, so...
2. You collect all white items with quality and all blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. It is working just as number 1, but you are increasing the efficiency massively! All in all I think it has no significant netto gain, though I could be mistaken. It mostly changes what items you stack up on!
3. You collect only blue/yellow items and you identify them all! This is a medium strategy with no real gain in items because you are using most of your gain in alteration orbs on buying Scrolls of Wisdom. On the other hand, you do not need to worry about Portal Scrolls. All in all I think it is about the same as 2.
4. You collect all blue and yellow, but only identifies yellow items. This is very efficient and will give you a small netto gain in items. However, you will be stacking up Portal Scrolls.
5. You collect no blue but only yellow items. This one is inefficient because you will find yourself skipping going back to town on certain waypoints and you are stacking massive amounts of Portal Scrolls and Wisdom Scrolls. On the other hand you will progress faster...
I would go for 2 or 3 because of the selectivity in items and the vendor values. Remember that an Orb of Alchemy and an Orb of Scouring has a total value of a Chaos Orb and a Chaos Orb is very valuable in endgame.
You can buy Orb of Scouring from vendoring currency (transmutation orb, alteration orb). You can also use the transmutation orbs and alteration orbs to gain alchemy shards and thus eventually alchemy orbs. In reality you can always use the low quality currency on something that will make it worthwhile in later game, so beware!
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On August 15 2012 19:56 radiatoren wrote:
In the ID and blue debate:
There are a number of ways to play this part of the game and I don't think any of them are bad.
1. You collect white items to gain ID-scrolls and blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. This one will take up all your Portal Scrolls and Scrolls of Wisdom just as it will add quite a lot of time to level-progression. It is possible to balance this way of playing, by selling Transmutation Orbs, Alteration Orbs, Armourers Scraps and Blacksmiths Whetstones for Scrolls of Wisdom and buying Portal Scrolls from vendors for Scrolls of Wisdom. I suspect you might have a netto loss of profit on this, but you might be able to stack up on the iitems you like while getting rid of the rest, so...
2. You collect all white items with quality and all blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. It is working just as number 1, but you are increasing the efficiency massively! All in all I think it has no significant netto gain, though I could be mistaken. It mostly changes what items you stack up on!
3. You collect only blue/yellow items and you identify them all! This is a medium strategy with no real gain in items because you are using most of your gain in alteration orbs on buying Scrolls of Wisdom. On the other hand, you do not need to worry about Portal Scrolls. All in all I think it is about the same as 2.
4. You collect all blue and yellow, but only identifies yellow items. This is very efficient and will give you a small netto gain in items. However, you will be stacking up Portal Scrolls.
5. You collect no blue but only yellow items. This one is inefficient because you will find yourself skipping going back to town on certain waypoints and you are stacking massive amounts of Portal Scrolls and Wisdom Scrolls. On the other hand you will progress faster...
I would go for 2 or 3 because of the selectivity in items and the vendor values. Remember that an Orb of Alchemy and an Orb of Scouring has a total value of a Chaos Orb and a Chaos Orb is very valuable in endgame.
You can buy Orb of Scouring from vendoring currency (transmutation orb, alteration orb). You can also use the transmutation orbs and alteration orbs to gain alchemy shards and thus eventually alchemy orbs. In reality you can always use the low quality currency on something that will make it worthwhile in later game, so beware!
You should have a 6. as well to be honest, I pick up yellows and blues but I only identify blue ones that have base stats that are good for me, as a ranger an item with 2-3 green sockets for instance.
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On August 15 2012 20:37 Roflhaxx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 19:56 radiatoren wrote:
In the ID and blue debate:
There are a number of ways to play this part of the game and I don't think any of them are bad.
1. You collect white items to gain ID-scrolls and blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. This one will take up all your Portal Scrolls and Scrolls of Wisdom just as it will add quite a lot of time to level-progression. It is possible to balance this way of playing, by selling Transmutation Orbs, Alteration Orbs, Armourers Scraps and Blacksmiths Whetstones for Scrolls of Wisdom and buying Portal Scrolls from vendors for Scrolls of Wisdom. I suspect you might have a netto loss of profit on this, but you might be able to stack up on the iitems you like while getting rid of the rest, so...
2. You collect all white items with quality and all blue/yellow items on sight, while also identifying them. It is working just as number 1, but you are increasing the efficiency massively! All in all I think it has no significant netto gain, though I could be mistaken. It mostly changes what items you stack up on!
3. You collect only blue/yellow items and you identify them all! This is a medium strategy with no real gain in items because you are using most of your gain in alteration orbs on buying Scrolls of Wisdom. On the other hand, you do not need to worry about Portal Scrolls. All in all I think it is about the same as 2.
4. You collect all blue and yellow, but only identifies yellow items. This is very efficient and will give you a small netto gain in items. However, you will be stacking up Portal Scrolls.
5. You collect no blue but only yellow items. This one is inefficient because you will find yourself skipping going back to town on certain waypoints and you are stacking massive amounts of Portal Scrolls and Wisdom Scrolls. On the other hand you will progress faster...
I would go for 2 or 3 because of the selectivity in items and the vendor values. Remember that an Orb of Alchemy and an Orb of Scouring has a total value of a Chaos Orb and a Chaos Orb is very valuable in endgame.
You can buy Orb of Scouring from vendoring currency (transmutation orb, alteration orb). You can also use the transmutation orbs and alteration orbs to gain alchemy shards and thus eventually alchemy orbs. In reality you can always use the low quality currency on something that will make it worthwhile in later game, so beware!
You should have a 6. as well to be honest, I pick up yellows and blues but I only identify blue ones that have base stats that are good for me, as a ranger an item with 2-3 green sockets for instance.
This guy nailed it. My method:
1) Pick up all rares/uniques. Identify all of them. Sell useless rares, bank rares that are good for other classes, equip rares that are good for me. It's also worth saving rares with crappy mods but have a good set of sockets, you can always try to re-roll the mods to get something godly.
2) Pick up blues that may be useful for my build. That means useful mods or a sequence of sockets that allows me to do something I am currently not able to do with the gear I have equipped. Pick up all blue flasks, since you can always be looking to improve those. Sell anything that doesn't fall into those categories.
3) Pick up high-quality whites or whites with an excellent sequence of sockets that would be hard to duplicate. Bonus points if both are true. Creating a godly rare from a base item with no quality and crappy sockets is difficult. It gets much easier if you have something good to start with.
Using this method gives you a pretty large abundance of Wisdom/Portal Scrolls. Haven't really found how to keep the Portal scrolls down without just picking up more shit, but I make sure to troll the vendors at least once per level (they change their inventory every time you level) to see if I can nab a decent white item for 3 scrolls. I've found more than a handful of promising white items from those vendors, and they are a steal for 3 scrolls.
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I must be a super hoarder or something. I have a few stacks of ID scrolls
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On August 16 2012 00:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:I must be a super hoarder or something. I have a few stacks of ID scrolls
If you think you're piling up too many ID scrolls, take the time to check the vendors at least once per level to see if there are any quality whites with decent sockets you can pick up for 3 scrolls. Well worth the investment to see if you can strike gold on crafting. At least that's my approach.
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On August 16 2012 00:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:I must be a super hoarder or something. I have a few stacks of ID scrolls
I dont even understand how this is possible if you try to ID everything....you dont find nearly enough for all the blues, you also dont find enough portal scrolls to vendor every single white that drops, the only way you could do this is to pick up every single drop and walk to a waypoint when you are full every time o_o
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On August 16 2012 02:21 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 00:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:I must be a super hoarder or something. I have a few stacks of ID scrolls I dont even understand how this is possible if you try to ID everything....you dont find nearly enough for all the blues, you also dont find enough portal scrolls to vendor every single white that drops, the only way you could do this is to pick up every single drop and walk to a waypoint when you are full every time o_o
I do use the waypoints every time I pass them, but that is only once or twice per waypoint I'd guess. I also have twenty extra portal scrolls. I did have to buy a few of those when I first started playing though, but I don't think I've bought more than five if that many.
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yeah... i do have a few stacks of ID and 1 stack of TP too. the thing is invetory is so small in this game that picking up blue is simply a waste of time. there are only few things that i will pick up on the way:
1/rare: i dont even ID the stuff i dont need, just sell them un-id
2/mat: obiously
3/white with good socket: duh
4/amulet: sell for +20 roll 
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So how many TLers have endgame/almost endgame characters? I've a 59 marauder (they told me it was easy, it was) and I really want to do maps. Problem is I get too ambitious when rolling them and end up with a map that demolishes me leading to me running out of maps and having to farm the Pyramid yet again.
I was wondering if anyone would like to join me for some. The way I see it, since you get more drops from being more people, there's no reason not to bring mates into your maps.
My character name is BasementDweller, please add me and message me ingame.
edit, default league, by the way. I'm a sissy.
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i think i found the gayest combo for shadow so far.... Enable blood rage-> lay 1 fire trap -> spam flicker strike @_@.... I spam so much my game client crashed -_-
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Solo only ladder-race starting in an hour. I can confirm that there won't be free pizza, but it is still plenty worth it to play in those events if you have a key!
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On August 16 2012 20:46 NB wrote:
i think i found the gayest combo for shadow so far.... Enable blood rage-> lay 1 fire trap -> spam flicker strike @_@.... I spam so much my game client crashed -_-
currently playing a CI shadow with lightning strike. would use flicker strike more if it didn't desync and get me killed so often.
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I don't feel like playing until after the wipe
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When will this game actually start? =\
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On August 19 2012 07:35 Sufficiency wrote:
When will this game actually start? =\
It's started already; it's $10 for a beta key. However once open beta starts (nobody knows when) there will be a reset so might as well wait a month or two to be honest.
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Yeah thats why I'm playing very little of this game at the moment, basically just to learn the basics and getting to know the game. Also Torchlight 2 is to be released in the next few weeks and I honestly dont know yet if I am going to need any other game of that kind for a long time when that happens. But its good to know there will be a backup if I get bored of T2 for some reason.
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On August 19 2012 07:28 Southlight wrote:I don't feel like playing until after the wipe
Use prewipe to experiment and make the stupid decisions.
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77th in the 3 hour race, anyone else play in it? Could easily have gone faster but it was my first race so I played overly safe I think.
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