EPTYes, oneshots still exist and it's debateably a poor way to balance a game, but people underrate the importance of play skill in survivability. Mathil regularly takes builds to guardians and shaper that are vastly lacking in serious defensive mechanisms, because he just avoids most of the shit. I'm not suggesting he doesn't die, but he actually dies quite infrequently on most builds (not abyssus facebreakers lol)
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Sn0_Man
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Yes, oneshots still exist and it's debateably a poor way to balance a game, but people underrate the importance of play skill in survivability. Mathil regularly takes builds to guardians and shaper that are vastly lacking in serious defensive mechanisms, because he just avoids most of the shit. I'm not suggesting he doesn't die, but he actually dies quite infrequently on most builds (not abyssus facebreakers lol) | ||
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Glacierz
United States1244 Posts
On October 07 2017 08:08 EchelonTee wrote: yeah, this is the reason I didn't make a wander this league. you have to sink a shitton to get things working and you're still squishy (bad for HC) however it is definitely the fastest clearing build. when I party with geared wanders they are very significantly faster than everyone else, and can carry 6 man parties (preferrably with support) headhunter or 2x inspired learning is also very important to get things running. really helps your clear also are you using esh's mirror? that adds a lot of damage as well. not sure when to use that or lycosidae though Esh's mirror increases clear speed, but what I'm lacking isn't really clear speed but more survivability. Ideally you want enough accuracy on gear so you can get a shield like these instead of Lycosidae. The BiS would have WED and all elemental resist on it as well, but extremely hard to find. I poured more currency into mine, and it finally passed the Slayer in clear speed by quite a large margin. I can now 1 shot most mobs 2 screens away, while running at a constant 180% speed. The cost of getting there is pretty ridiculous, had to sell most of my other builds to fund this char. Overall, the most expensive end game items are the +2 barrage enchant on a helm (last time I checked, getting one on the Tempest's Binding costs almost as much as a HH), and a GG eDPS Wand. Need to pray for a mirror to drop I guess... | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1199 Posts
On October 11 2017 00:15 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean, if you can't stand how easy it is to die in PoE learn to play hardcore. It is possible to play fun, fast builds without ever dying all the way to 100. You just have to approach the game differently. Yes, oneshots still exist and it's debateably a poor way to balance a game, but people underrate the importance of play skill in survivability. Mathil regularly takes builds to guardians and shaper that are vastly lacking in serious defensive mechanisms, because he just avoids most of the shit. I'm not suggesting he doesn't die, but he actually dies quite infrequently on most builds (not abyssus facebreakers lol) People often discredit him as well because he mostly plays softcore but Mathil acutally is one of the best PoE players in terms of movement. He has good skill, great knowledge .. overall cool guy. | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1199 Posts
On October 11 2017 00:02 Gorsameth wrote: I've tried to get into PoE with 3.0 but the 1 shots and how quick you go from 100-0 just feels so off putting. Is this how the game always is or is it something that changes between patches? To be fair there are not that many 1 shots in the game. There are several high damage output situations and of course also 1 shots happen but generally speaking you can pretty much dodge the known one shot situations. Most of the time someone died from being 1 shot is heavy map mods, not dodging a known crazy attack/spell or severely lacking defence/resist etc. So... I kind of disagree with your point even though my last character got one shot and I wasnt lacking in resist etc. (was blind-playthrough and I didnt know the content so it happens) but if you dont enjoy it - play softcore? | ||
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
Innocence will still 1-shot you at max resistances unless you've taken RF amounts of lifenodes before then, when its not at all needed. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On October 11 2017 21:47 TaKeTV wrote: To be fair there are not that many 1 shots in the game. There are several high damage output situations and of course also 1 shots happen but generally speaking you can pretty much dodge the known one shot situations. Most of the time someone died from being 1 shot is heavy map mods, not dodging a known crazy attack/spell or severely lacking defence/resist etc. So... I kind of disagree with your point even though my last character got one shot and I wasnt lacking in resist etc. (was blind-playthrough and I didnt know the content so it happens) but if you dont enjoy it - play softcore? I watched a fair bit of those HC death videos to know you cannot avoid all oneshots, mostly those detonate dead ones. From totems just outside edge of screen to beyond DD mobs spawning after you kill the boss and using DD before you can even notice it.. some are not avoidable except by pure luck. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On October 12 2017 19:02 -Archangel- wrote: So I leveled up my Spectre Summoner to lvl 60+ in preparation for this patch.. only to have the patch kill the Spectre builds... I guess that is it for me for PoE.. at least until next league and maybe longer (because I am very pissed at GGG atm) rofl gg desecrate | ||
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United States47024 Posts
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Croatia7457 Posts
On October 12 2017 23:36 TheYango wrote: You can still basically get anything from the Shaper map (though you could potentially sit there for like 30 minutes rolling corpses which is the opposite of fun). It's not a huge deal if you have someone that can donate a portal or two for them, but it sucks for everyone else (SSF especially). And what happens if one of them dies in the middle of a map that does not have them? You go and find your friend every time? Also this persistence is crap. People expected it to work like Animate Guardian but removing the gem from slot or losing access to it due to lack of dexterity wipes all Spectres.... | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On October 12 2017 19:02 -Archangel- wrote: So I leveled up my Spectre Summoner to lvl 60+ in preparation for this patch.. only to have the patch kill the Spectre builds... I guess that is it for me for PoE.. at least until next league and maybe longer (because I am very pissed at GGG atm) looks like they've got a fix in the works https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2017682 | ||
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Conversion
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On October 15 2017 00:44 Conversion wrote: My luck has been insane so far playing poe.. chanced a skyforth in breach league, then found a skyforth this league running maps :D Too bad this league Skyforth is no longer such important item with all the nerfs. | ||
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
I've noticed a problem though, that I'm not reliably getting frenzy charges even with diamond flask up. Sometimes it even feels like I'm generating fewer frenzy charges with diamond flask up. My guess is that it's because I mostly use it when facing rares/bosses, so the hit reduction is the actual culprit? Blood rage fixed the problem for non-bosses. For bosses I've so far used frenzy with fortify to go to five charges, and then the boss is almost dead anyway. | ||
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On October 16 2017 00:15 Duvon wrote: I made that terminus est flicker I mentioned a while back. Terminus est is so damn powerful when you can equip it. I've noticed a problem though, that I'm not reliably getting frenzy charges even with diamond flask up. Sometimes it even feels like I'm generating fewer frenzy charges with diamond flask up. My guess is that it's because I mostly use it when facing rares/bosses, so the hit reduction is the actual culprit? Blood rage fixed the problem for non-bosses. For bosses I've so far used frenzy with fortify to go to five charges, and then the boss is almost dead anyway. Sounds like an easy fix.. get more accuracy. | ||
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