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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 20 2017 17:31 GMT
#26221
I'm touching both, is why I asked. I'll hold off on it until I feel the stuns then, in which case I'll just get both, since I assume IR is simply for getting something out of evasion when you can't evade anyway at that point?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2632 Posts
September 22 2017 03:10 GMT
#26222
It also makes "+% armour and evasion" nodes doubly valuable because the two parts of it apply to both base evasion pre-conversion, and base evasion post-conversion to armour. It doesn't double-dip, but it does mean flat evasion is slightly more valuable than flat armour... though for the reasons sno mentioned that isn't super relevant.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
September 22 2017 05:15 GMT
#26223
On September 22 2017 12:10 Fleetfeet wrote:
It also makes "+% armour and evasion" nodes doubly valuable because the two parts of it apply to both base evasion pre-conversion, and base evasion post-conversion to armour. It doesn't double-dip, but it does mean flat evasion is slightly more valuable than flat armour... though for the reasons sno mentioned that isn't super relevant.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. In any case, if you have 1000 Evasion and a 24% increased armor and evasion node allocated that will net you 1240 armor with Iron reflexes.

See the wiki. In the same way nodes like "+ x% to fire and lightning damage" don't apply twice if you convert fire to lightning damage.

But generally speaking Evasion gear has higher values than armor gear. So if you do convert and don't have many % armor nodes, evasion gear is probably more useful (of course you have to keep necessary socket colors in mind too).
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 22 2017 12:28 GMT
#26224
incinerate is right. Iron Reflexes doesn't do that pseudo double dipping anymore, it was changed years ago
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 08:51:23
September 23 2017 08:50 GMT
#26225
Weeeeeeeeeell nevermind then :D

I was under the impression that it used to truly double-dip, but was changed to apply to the base twice, instead of double-dipping.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
September 23 2017 12:05 GMT
#26226
God damn it. I died again. Was cruising mid level maps with my Slayer 81 cycloner and played a twinned thicket. Went into the boss room and got wrecked. What happened, and it really took me 5 minutes to figure that one out, is that the boss enrages nearby monsters. With double boss they enraged each other. And that *really* hurt.

I still have a lot of currency to reroll. Unfortunately, I really only wanted to play cyclone and don't feel like leveling all over again. Ugh.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 24 2017 00:41 GMT
#26227
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100 boys

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aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 24 2017 01:55 GMT
#26228
Yay playing ED!

How was running harbinger 56000 times? Was it all that you hoped it'd be?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 24 2017 05:16 GMT
#26229
Beachhead rotas were really, really fun for me. Reminded me of gorge rotas or even Piety rotas back in the day. It's kinda fun to do preset runs in groups (people compare it to Baal runs, I didnt play much D2). having RIPs or near RIPs, seeing crazy drops (saw a Skyforth and Mirror Shard drop) is more fun with other people around

to be fair I did do most of 39 challenges on this guy, including 40 guardians (a lot of Phoenix), 8 mod maps , 1337 map bosses, so I did do a lot of normal mapping as well
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 05:47:52
September 24 2017 05:39 GMT
#26230
On September 24 2017 09:41 EchelonTee wrote:
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100 boys

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Did you just suicide or what happened?

For Clarification: He just died at no 1 of ladder. Can't upload screenshot cause imgur doesn't like me.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 06:00:53
September 24 2017 05:59 GMT
#26231
sorta suicide haha. died to Rigwald in Dark Forest.

wasn't trying to die, but was playing on EU while lag spiking, without preparation

baited by gunde for the challenge ! not really though. It's funny how if you don't play seriously how easy it is to die :D
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
September 24 2017 11:46 GMT
#26232
Dude, congrats pretty sick to get to 100 in HC.
Funny to see how motivated you were this league, not dying ftw =)
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 25 2017 10:37 GMT
#26233
Wohoo I killed Kitava deathless on my heavy striker!
I know it's not much but it felt good. Gladiator is so tanky and heavy strike Chunks bosses.
Now I just need something to remove knockback and I can use Multistrike too. Almost like the D2 zealot I set out to be.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 20:17:01
September 25 2017 20:16 GMT
#26234
It's definitely something. I still haven't killed Kitava while leveling haha. Too easy to just pay 2-3c and skip the ordeal. I need to get some practice runs in

you could use those unique gloves that reverse knockback. Forgot the name

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 25 2017 20:19 GMT
#26235
Empire's Grasp I believe

They have like 700 armour on them too. I really want to use them in a build sometime but the problem is realistically you'd rather 1shot things than pull them around with you and against bosses reverse knockback isn't that valuable ususally
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 01:38:48
September 26 2017 01:37 GMT
#26236
reverse shockwave totems are fun, super cheap and safe, but they can't match zoomzoom 1 shot everything.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 26 2017 02:35 GMT
#26237
What's the better weapon for end game phys cyclone build? Disfavor or Starforge?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 05:31:43
September 26 2017 05:31 GMT
#26238
starforge has higher pdps, but the axe nodes are generally better

starforge should be better overall but I haven't played cyclone in endgame. Kirby or someone else should know more
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 07:49:41
September 26 2017 07:48 GMT
#26239
So I got my revenge act 8 Doedre Darktongue (HC) today. She ripped my level 64 split arrow/frenzy deadeye ranger, partly because I didn't know about the valve mechanic and got slowed to a complete standstill by her temporal chains, but today I came back with my flame totem/firestorm elementalist witch and incinerated her.

I'm really enjoying POE HC, shit is scary as hell when you haven't played through the content before.

I have to say though, it feels like witch has an advantage over ranger in HC because energy shield seems more useful to me than evasion in boss fights which are usually the most dangerous part of the game plus I seem to DPS more with shittier gear. Am I way off in thinking that?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 26 2017 08:25 GMT
#26240
On September 26 2017 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Empire's Grasp I believe

They have like 700 armour on them too. I really want to use them in a build sometime but the problem is realistically you'd rather 1shot things than pull them around with you and against bosses reverse knockback isn't that valuable ususally

It was on my Barrage Ranged Totems. It would pull them in and keep them locked in before they died. Only a few bosses with jumping abilities and such were resistant to it.
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