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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 20:27:07
August 03 2017 20:26 GMT
#25301
On August 04 2017 05:19 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 04:53 ASoo wrote:
On August 04 2017 02:12 travis wrote:
Kinda hoping a death's oath drops because if so I will probably try to make a build around it. Honestly it sounds like it could be super overpowered. I would go trickster and then get the free movement skill, go cyclone and do poison. Then scale chaos/damage over time. Defenses wouldn't be the best I guess, that would be the one downside.

I'm almost certain Death's Oath is still terrible; it only has two damage supports that work.


We don't know that at all. For all we know the skill will be a spell.

(I want to dream, don't take this from me before we knwo for sure)

Actually we do. Devs gave us its tags. It is aura, aoe, chaos, DoT
And they said Animate Guardian cannot use it.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 20:42:42
August 03 2017 20:36 GMT
#25302
oh ok. yeah that can't be good then. that's unfortunate.

my dreams die quick in oriath
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 21:26:43
August 03 2017 21:25 GMT
#25303
PoB says a Dark Pack self cast Berserker can do up to 1 300 000 dps with conc effect (almost 1 mil to Shaper) , 844 000 dps with inc area
:D :D
And that with 10000+ life
I smell nerf incoming before release :D
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 21:38:18
August 03 2017 21:37 GMT
#25304
Please no nerfs! Just made a draft tree for Dark Pact

poeplanner.com

Any suggestions? Im a bit scared of the 10% more damage taken from Berserker. Should I just forego the 40% increased dmg in HC?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 23:05:14
August 03 2017 21:44 GMT
#25305
On August 04 2017 06:37 Yuljan wrote:
Please no nerfs! Just made a draft tree for Dark Pact

poeplanner.com

Any suggestions? Im a bit scared of the 10% more damage taken from Berserker. Should I just forego the 40% increased dmg in HC?

Better version (one that got me my dps): poeplanner.com
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 21:59:37
August 03 2017 21:54 GMT
#25306
I don't wanna give up on auras though. Arctic armor and temp chain aura + mom. That's a lot of survivability while the damage seems comparable/higher given that it skills into area dmg as well.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 22:12:30
August 03 2017 22:10 GMT
#25307
On August 04 2017 06:54 Yuljan wrote:
I don't wanna give up on auras though. Arctic armor and temp chain aura + mom. That's a lot of survivability while the damage seems comparable/higher given that it skills into area dmg as well.


60% mana reservation would hurt your EHP with MOM hugely, probably over 1000+ EHP lost.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 22:19:55
August 03 2017 22:19 GMT
#25308
On August 04 2017 07:10 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 06:54 Yuljan wrote:
I don't wanna give up on auras though. Arctic armor and temp chain aura + mom. That's a lot of survivability while the damage seems comparable/higher given that it skills into area dmg as well.


60% mana reservation would hurt your EHP with MOM hugely, probably over 1300 EHP lost.


That's true but I'd say temp chains aura and arctic armour is worth more and 247% increased life should be decent enough as base for EHP with whatever left over mana there is.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 22:43:25
August 03 2017 22:36 GMT
#25309
On August 04 2017 07:19 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 07:10 sob3k wrote:
On August 04 2017 06:54 Yuljan wrote:
I don't wanna give up on auras though. Arctic armor and temp chain aura + mom. That's a lot of survivability while the damage seems comparable/higher given that it skills into area dmg as well.


60% mana reservation would hurt your EHP with MOM hugely, probably over 1300 EHP lost.


That's true but I'd say temp chains aura and arctic armour is worth more and 247% increased life should be decent enough as base for EHP with whatever left over mana there is.


In some situations I would agree, but in the situation you describe I am not sure I do. You will still get great benefit from temp chains on a cwdt, and since your life total is so big it's actually more important to have a bigger mana pool so that you can use your MoM efficiently.

also I would just like to say, sob3k's tree is really impressive
first time i've seen a blood magic tree I actually like, in a very long time

though personally I think occultist is a better choice for dark pact anyways
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 03 2017 23:06 GMT
#25310
On August 04 2017 07:36 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 07:19 Yuljan wrote:
On August 04 2017 07:10 sob3k wrote:
On August 04 2017 06:54 Yuljan wrote:
I don't wanna give up on auras though. Arctic armor and temp chain aura + mom. That's a lot of survivability while the damage seems comparable/higher given that it skills into area dmg as well.


60% mana reservation would hurt your EHP with MOM hugely, probably over 1300 EHP lost.


That's true but I'd say temp chains aura and arctic armour is worth more and 247% increased life should be decent enough as base for EHP with whatever left over mana there is.


In some situations I would agree, but in the situation you describe I am not sure I do. You will still get great benefit from temp chains on a cwdt, and since your life total is so big it's actually more important to have a bigger mana pool so that you can use your MoM efficiently.

also I would just like to say, sob3k's tree is really impressive
first time i've seen a blood magic tree I actually like, in a very long time

though personally I think occultist is a better choice for dark pact anyways

You mean my tree?

If not or you do, I edited it slightly to remove some extra life regen and fix bandit rewards that were left over from original tree link.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 03 2017 23:07 GMT
#25311
oh yeah I thought sob3k made it, looks like you did

neat tree
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 23:24:11
August 03 2017 23:08 GMT
#25312
Also I think I might have found my 3rd build for 3.0 once I get a bit rich and also first good RAT build I made:
https://pastebin.com/vWpB38fE
Inquisitor crit Chin Sol Blast rain totems.

Any comments?
Edit: also how smart would it be to try this as league starter? I can use tabula for a while and then only need to buy lioneye jewel and eventually signal fire (can use the avatar of fire until then). Chin sol should not be too expensive.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 23:46:26
August 03 2017 23:44 GMT
#25313
okay I am thinking of switching to elemental EK nova at the 11th hour here

if I convert basically everything to elemental, what do I need to do to survive reflect? I have vaal pact, but where is my leech coming from? Belt + flasks?

is saffel's frame a reasonable choice to help reflect survivability?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13964 Posts
August 04 2017 00:48 GMT
#25314
I'm dropping traps and walking away from enemies. I'm really digging the map semirandomization and the currency system. 6 more acts with the new expansion thats nuts.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-04 01:11:54
August 04 2017 01:09 GMT
#25315
On August 04 2017 08:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Also I think I might have found my 3rd build for 3.0 once I get a bit rich and also first good RAT build I made:
https://pastebin.com/vWpB38fE
Inquisitor crit Chin Sol Blast rain totems.

Any comments?
Edit: also how smart would it be to try this as league starter? I can use tabula for a while and then only need to buy lioneye jewel and eventually signal fire (can use the avatar of fire until then). Chin sol should not be too expensive.



Mechanically thats probably gonna be pretty miserable, with the totem placement followed by the delay on blast rain, the totems might even have trouble staying alive as you will want to place them close to enemies due to point blank.

Belt of the deciever is probably not worth running as you wont be close enough to apply it most of the time, you have barely any regen and no leech so its all health pots.

The gear you have on it currently is also pretty damn good, so it would be much weaker as a start.

BR totems sound pretty memey but it just seems really weak, you can do like 3x the damage without them, have more life, and leech.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-04 01:56:18
August 04 2017 01:54 GMT
#25316
On August 04 2017 08:44 travis wrote:
okay I am thinking of switching to elemental EK nova at the 11th hour here

if I convert basically everything to elemental, what do I need to do to survive reflect? I have vaal pact, but where is my leech coming from? Belt + flasks?

is saffel's frame a reasonable choice to help reflect survivability?

Waggles guide is what you're looking for:


e: Leech comes from boots enchant, CwdT & CoH Warlord's setup.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-04 02:30:15
August 04 2017 02:04 GMT
#25317
On August 04 2017 06:25 -Archangel- wrote:
PoB says a Dark Pack self cast Berserker can do up to 1 300 000 dps with conc effect (almost 1 mil to Shaper) , 844 000 dps with inc area
:D :D
And that with 10000+ life
I smell nerf incoming before release :D

My understanding is that self casted Dark Pact does not add your removed life to the damage. That's only when you use skels.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 04 2017 02:31 GMT
#25318
On August 04 2017 08:44 travis wrote:
okay I am thinking of switching to elemental EK nova at the 11th hour here

if I convert basically everything to elemental, what do I need to do to survive reflect? I have vaal pact, but where is my leech coming from? Belt + flasks?

is saffel's frame a reasonable choice to help reflect survivability?

Well theres those unique rings that reduced reflect damage(sorry cant remember the name), or you could be an elementalist or scion
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
August 04 2017 03:06 GMT
#25319
Elemental EK Nova TRAPS???
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 04 2017 04:02 GMT
#25320
Ya'll probably hate when ppl ask, but whats/if any is a good/cheap League Starter melee based build? Feel like actually hitting stuff up close atm lol.

Ran EQ Jugg last season as my new starter build, and it felt good enough to get myself off my feet to setup other better builds.
Forever Young
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