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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 13 2017 15:54 GMT
#24081
On March 14 2017 00:37 vndestiny wrote:
Oh for summoner using flame sentinel spectres, since they already have lmp/fork fireball, do we still need gmp ? Or gmp will still increase the clear speed massively ?

i don't think it's needed
spell echo + controlled destruction + fire pen + elemental focus + minion damage were the supports i used in bhc
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2017 16:03 GMT
#24082
anybody who uses flame sentinels as spectres needs to test goatman fire-raisers (the souped up goatman shamans). They cast magma orb in addition to fire ball and are basically just better than flame sentinels afaik. Spectre-GMP-Spell Echo-FirePen-minion dmg(-controlled destruction)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
March 13 2017 17:10 GMT
#24083
I logged on to standard league and used my free respec to change my old 2.4 era BV Pathfinder into a brilliant new 2.6 era HoWA ST Raider. Sold all my old gear and bought new stuff, even with only about 3 ex invested it clears tier 10+ maps like a boss. I think I might finally beat Shaper with this character, which is my goal before 3.0 hits.
good vibes only
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-13 19:11:41
March 13 2017 18:56 GMT
#24084
On March 13 2017 20:16 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2017 17:50 Ryndika wrote:
On March 13 2017 14:15 bo1b wrote:
It's a qol issue every other build has to deal with as well, for the most part. Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

What do you suppose assasin discharge did btw? Carry around a shock, bleed, freeze, curse and vinktars? Tbh the solution they chose was picking up a kiarras, theres nothing stopping howa raider doing that as well.

Single reflect mobs are fine just use an atziris promise.

On lsc, the only time i ever die is if I attempt something retarded, I can't say that about most builds.

None of my builds i ever played had that issue and i doubt there's almost any outside of avatar of veil builds. You are not going to run kiaras as howa raider and ass coc ci doesn't have this QOL issue at same level.

Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

This is most huge concern.

Just carry one Phasing Flask for opening boxes then. You are making a bigger problem out of this than it is.

You don't just drop a flask slot for that. You make it sound bigger problem than it is when you suggest dropping flask for it while it's not that big of an issue.

raider ability gives you immunity to status effects when you are phasing and also it gives permanent phasing while you are at max frenzy charges.
He probably does not carry any antiburn, antishock and antifreeze flasks so relies on raider ability to keep him safe.

And one Phasing Flask would solve his problems.

That is main reason for going raider or pathfinder. You want vinktar, dying sun, ToH, basalt etc.

Leaving map also does happen because WHEN you will fuck up vinktar usage or didnt get enough charges, you want to get it for boss, which takes like 5sec and skipping boss is bad for rank1 ladder or pushing 100 and i'd assume same twice two for lower expectations.

e: I did go with raider for max "EV"
as useful as teasalt
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 13 2017 21:42 GMT
#24085
Pass the message on to etup, who clearly missed the message on what a good build is for pushing rank 1 hc.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 13 2017 23:13 GMT
#24086
hi guys, its been a long time <3
www.twitch.tv/varanice
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
March 13 2017 23:23 GMT
#24087
On March 14 2017 08:13 Varanice wrote:
hi guys, its been a long time <3

Sup
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 14 2017 00:15 GMT
#24088
On March 14 2017 03:56 Ryndika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2017 20:16 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 13 2017 17:50 Ryndika wrote:
On March 13 2017 14:15 bo1b wrote:
It's a qol issue every other build has to deal with as well, for the most part. Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

What do you suppose assasin discharge did btw? Carry around a shock, bleed, freeze, curse and vinktars? Tbh the solution they chose was picking up a kiarras, theres nothing stopping howa raider doing that as well.

Single reflect mobs are fine just use an atziris promise.

On lsc, the only time i ever die is if I attempt something retarded, I can't say that about most builds.

None of my builds i ever played had that issue and i doubt there's almost any outside of avatar of veil builds. You are not going to run kiaras as howa raider and ass coc ci doesn't have this QOL issue at same level.

Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

This is most huge concern.

Just carry one Phasing Flask for opening boxes then. You are making a bigger problem out of this than it is.

You don't just drop a flask slot for that. You make it sound bigger problem than it is when you suggest dropping flask for it while it's not that big of an issue.

Show nested quote +
raider ability gives you immunity to status effects when you are phasing and also it gives permanent phasing while you are at max frenzy charges.
He probably does not carry any antiburn, antishock and antifreeze flasks so relies on raider ability to keep him safe.

And one Phasing Flask would solve his problems.

That is main reason for going raider or pathfinder. You want vinktar, dying sun, ToH, basalt etc.

Leaving map also does happen because WHEN you will fuck up vinktar usage or didnt get enough charges, you want to get it for boss, which takes like 5sec and skipping boss is bad for rank1 ladder or pushing 100 and i'd assume same twice two for lower expectations.

e: I did go with raider for max "EV"

usually you keep the freeze flask in your inventory, see a box switch a flask gain charges and use then switch back
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
March 14 2017 00:22 GMT
#24089
On March 13 2017 23:12 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2017 23:09 Lachrymose wrote:
On March 13 2017 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On March 13 2017 17:50 Ryndika wrote:
On March 13 2017 14:15 bo1b wrote:
It's a qol issue every other build has to deal with as well, for the most part. Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

What do you suppose assasin discharge did btw? Carry around a shock, bleed, freeze, curse and vinktars? Tbh the solution they chose was picking up a kiarras, theres nothing stopping howa raider doing that as well.

Single reflect mobs are fine just use an atziris promise.

On lsc, the only time i ever die is if I attempt something retarded, I can't say that about most builds.

None of my builds i ever played had that issue and i doubt there's almost any outside of avatar of veil builds. You are not going to run kiaras as howa raider and ass coc ci doesn't have this QOL issue at same level.

Having to wait 30 seconds before opening a strongbox is hardly a huge concern.

This is most huge concern.

I'm requoting this because I don't understand how ass coc ci doesn't have more issues with status effects than howa.

Having played both into the 90's and cleared 99.9% of content (literally only thing left is shaper) I'm quite certain that howa deals with status issues better then anything I've ever played before (maybe juggernaut is better, never played one to a good level).

And really, if clearspeed is the ultimate concern then you aren't leaving the map in the first place.


You never played Pathfinder BV?

No I never really liked bv.

Ok, if the bar for a good build is pathfinder bv in 2.4 then nothing is good.

No, not at all. I was just wondering since you said you'd never played a build better at dealing with status than HoWA Raider.
~
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 14 2017 02:27 GMT
#24090
how am i supposed to judge the price of jewels i pick up?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 14 2017 04:18 GMT
#24091
On March 14 2017 08:13 Varanice wrote:
hi guys, its been a long time <3

Varaaaaaaaaaaa!

How you doing? Any hype building up for 3.0? <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 12:06:55
March 14 2017 12:04 GMT
#24092
On March 14 2017 11:27 Frolossus wrote:
how am i supposed to judge the price of jewels i pick up?

Simple guideline :
relatively easy
- does it have 3 damage stats ? (worth keeping and propably worth something, make sure they work together tho, so no staves + swords or claws combo , thats usually only 1 or 2 dmg stat then->unless for varunastra builda maybe)
- does it have 2 damage stats + Life or Maximum Energy Shield (worth something)

If it has 4 stats and the above listed options its propably really nice.
Theres exceptions for specific builds people play, but the above propably covers 80+% of the builds
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 14 2017 12:17 GMT
#24093
Minion damage is an exception for jewels. If you have one with 15-16% minion dmg alone that's already 1C, and if you also get a high life or ES roll you are having a pretty expensive jewel.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
March 14 2017 14:40 GMT
#24094
Stupid question:

Channeling spells like Blight/Lightning Tendrils and so on don't "hit"?
So added Lightning/Chaos/Frost/Poison/..... don't work or are there some that work?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 14:49:05
March 14 2017 14:48 GMT
#24095
Blight applies a damage-over-time effect every channel so it never hits it just applies more dots. Sources of Added damage do not work with it.

Lightning Tendrils hits every x seconds (is it even channelling?) so added damage works fine with it because there is a hit to add to. A better example might be incinerate, which definitely works with added damage despite definitely being channelling.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 16:37:41
March 14 2017 16:37 GMT
#24096
On March 14 2017 21:04 Quateras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2017 11:27 Frolossus wrote:
how am i supposed to judge the price of jewels i pick up?

Simple guideline :
relatively easy
- does it have 3 damage stats ? (worth keeping and propably worth something, make sure they work together tho, so no staves + swords or claws combo , thats usually only 1 or 2 dmg stat then->unless for varunastra builda maybe)
- does it have 2 damage stats + Life or Maximum Energy Shield (worth something)

If it has 4 stats and the above listed options its propably really nice.
Theres exceptions for specific builds people play, but the above propably covers 80+% of the builds

i couldn't find something similar to it yesterday on poe.trade. LSC
[image loading]
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 16:55:00
March 14 2017 16:49 GMT
#24097
that's very very valuable

Hard to price but I'm almost certain it's a few ex

With jewels you usually have to do some fuzzy searching where you pick the most important mod(s) like life and then do a "2 of" and slam in a ton of other similar mods to see what a comparable if not identical jewel goes for.

something like http://poe.trade/search/makotoniikioba should represent the same class of jewel that it's in, although yours is definitely better than some of the ones on display there. For things that chase you have to turn off "online only" although do be wary that some offline listings aren't necessarily going to be part of the market.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 15 2017 01:17 GMT
#24098
I'm divine able from the #1 bow on lsc, idk how to feel about this. It's possible to hit 457 pdps, which is nuts. So the question now, is do I sell or make a signal shot?
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
March 15 2017 01:32 GMT
#24099
Play signal shot, its plenty fun.
I got one in standard, so when you done you can hand it over to me

But yeah depends what you enjoy, i definetely enjoy bowchars a shitton more than most other builds.
Knowing you, you can farm the missing gear quite easily too.
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 15 2017 01:35 GMT
#24100
Yeh I think I will, already have a decent 6link chest, so I'll turn the bow into a 5link and farm up a skyforths. Also, I'm ultra salty cause I divined over 442 pdps earlier, which I might not see in another 50 divines.

Oh well.
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