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Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 16 2012 03:35 GMT
#2321
Yea still not sold on Ethereal knives, just feels like there are much better choices that do the same job.
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United States718 Posts
May 17 2012 02:26 GMT
#2322
Yeah I felt that Ethereal Knives didn't do much. I'm also on a low-end computer and using it caused me lag spikes. Does anyone have any recommendations on the Shadow? It just seems so difficult to play him with how squishy he is, I feel you are basically required to get a shield due to only a few life nodes around his starting position.

I'm most likely going to try a Chaos Inoculation with a shield that gives a ton of energy shield bonuses and grab all the +energy shield and +shield bonuses around him while capping crit damage on a dagger. Has anyone tried Puncture yet? I didn't get a chance to grab that skill and I feel it would be great.

I also feel you have to carry a bow as the Shadow because there are so many bosses and mini-bosses that you just don't want to get near.

Question: Does Energy shield take bonuses from Armor? I think I heard somewhere that it doesn't.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 02:48:19
May 17 2012 02:47 GMT
#2323
Max evasion , shield for start ( im duelist at 36 lv at HC ,and im still using shield , because i kill moobs very fast anyway , using shockwave totem + fire gem as suport )
Yes you need bow for change , but only if you dony wanna use 1h+ shield , if you use 1h + shield IMO you donthave to change for bow at bosses ( i dont have to )
Try to find or buy flasks that give you evasion, armor or run speed when you are under effect of flask..
dunno thats it..
Oh and you need also phase run for critical situations , for run away...
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Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 03:56:12
May 17 2012 02:54 GMT
#2324
Yeah my only problem with it was that playing was god awfully slow. It took forever to clear areas without a reliable AoE I had trap of fire and Ethereal Knives but those didn't clear places fast enough.

Well fuck. I made it to the lower prison no problem, even killed the False God. So I find Chatters and begin kiting him and throwing fire traps. All is going well hes near dead I hit him and hes got NO red left in his bar. My fire trap misses doesn't go off my next 3 arrows are misses and BAM frozen and dead. Seriously.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 06:07:37
May 17 2012 06:06 GMT
#2325
Just gonna ask, but anyone got a key? I got a dota 2 inv as well as a Super monday night combat inv I can exchange. I'm in the game, but would like one for my girl friend.

Also, is there anywhere I can figure out the freaking skill tree? It's really intimidating, I don't even know where to start. I'm a templar. My girl friend is interested in the witch.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
May 17 2012 07:05 GMT
#2326
On May 17 2012 11:47 pallad wrote:
Max evasion , shield for start ( im duelist at 36 lv at HC ,and im still using shield , because i kill moobs very fast anyway , using shockwave totem + fire gem as suport )
Yes you need bow for change , but only if you dony wanna use 1h+ shield , if you use 1h + shield IMO you donthave to change for bow at bosses ( i dont have to )
Try to find or buy flasks that give you evasion, armor or run speed when you are under effect of flask..
dunno thats it..
Oh and you need also phase run for critical situations , for run away...


im currently at the end of act 1 and have no problem going full evasion and dual claws , didnt need bow or shield at anytime.

the thing is that you need potion flasks that give back instant life , and phase run is just great to get out of surrounds , got the ice mine recently and its great too to control groups of mobs and pick them one by one.

you just cant run inside a room full of necros and skeleton mages you have to patiently pull them through the door , lure them into the traps and ice mine , pick some apart and keep using phase run/dual strike all the time , this way its almost one hit per mob.

hope the act 2 is doable this way too!


byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
May 22 2012 15:06 GMT
#2327
finally got back to this game and started a duelist again yesterday in HC.
also this threads needs bump and more action :D
(>°_°)>
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 21:54:14
May 24 2012 21:53 GMT
#2328
http://mmohuts.com/giveaways/path-of-exile-closed-beta-key-giveaway

I'm not affiliated in anyway with them, just thought I'd let people know I came across a give-a-way.

(it's just a sign up and you get it deal anyways, free 100%)
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:40:17
May 25 2012 13:10 GMT
#2329
New devblog for 0.9.10 is out, it just keeps getting better and better. ♥

The more people play D3 (and tell how dumb they find it anyway) the more I'm rooting for PoE. =D


The 0.9.10 patch is almost ready, and contains (among dozens of other changes) the following major features:

-At least five new player-designed Unique items.
-Increased the difficulty of Cruel, Ruthless and Merciless by adjusting monster damage and pack sizes.
-If you want to compare an item to one you have equipped, press Alt while hovering over the item and it will display your equipped one for comparison.
-You can now make your party public by giving it a name on the party screen. Players can browse public parties associated with a town by clicking the Notice Board in town or by using the social screen. For example, if you need help with Merveil, you might name your party "Help with Merveil". Players then see it on the list and join it to help you out. You can make it private again or rename it if your situation changes.
-Short-duration timed loot allocation (see this old thread for our thoughts on it). In multiplayer instances, certain items (magic, rare, unique, currency and gems) are now allocated to a random nearby player for a short duration, during which time only that player may pick them up. This duration is increased by the time it would take the player to run to the item. Note that the allocation time is short enough that players must still pay close attention to what items drop in combat and to take them immediately if they want them.


We're expecting to deploy 0.9.10 late next week, but that might change if other large features are ready in time and can be included.



Edit: Huehue, finally got my gf convinced that this must be one of the coolest games ever, if any of you guys got a key left over for a greater purpose, gimme a shout please. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 17:45:12
May 25 2012 17:44 GMT
#2330
r.Evo you dont even lpay this game.. and you already say its one of the coolest games ever...
I play this hame hardcore .. like 10 h every day , first 3 days.. then some more , and its really good game.But then in like 38 lv in HC on cruel i just get bored with game..

Passive skill tree its very good idea for PvE , but in other side.. IMO its impossible to balance this game in PvP with this multiple possible build.. its impossible..to balance PvP well. There is to much options for stuns in the game .. and maby one or two options to get out of stun etc

This game will be big succes in PvE and co-op , but IMO there is no future for pvp in this game. But we will se , im waitng for new patch then i see what it change in game
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
May 25 2012 18:05 GMT
#2331
Well that is the only thing I'm excited about is PvP so hopefully they balance it. I understand it will be difficult to balance with all the choices but, I'm sure they can at least get close to balance. If this current passive tree is impossible to balance then they should just make a PvP passive tree for use in cutthroat and such.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
May 25 2012 21:13 GMT
#2332
Well, it was also said that it was impossible to balance DOTA, LOL, HON etc.
I would say that the balance will be determined more by the active skills, than the passive. Having a lot of passive damage is fine and all, but to some extend you need the active skills to stun the opponent to even get close to them. (have you played cutthroat?). The passive skill tree is essential in determining how many hits you can take before you die and that balance is important for how the game will feel in pvp. However, it is a lot easier to just focus on the active skills and ensure enough of a buffer for damage taken in the defensive skills, than trying to micromanage ias/+dps/mana etc.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 08:17:08
May 28 2012 08:15 GMT
#2333
On May 17 2012 11:54 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah my only problem with it was that playing was god awfully slow. It took forever to clear areas without a reliable AoE I had trap of fire and Ethereal Knives but those didn't clear places fast enough.

Well fuck. I made it to the lower prison no problem, even killed the False God. So I find Chatters and begin kiting him and throwing fire traps. All is going well hes near dead I hit him and hes got NO red left in his bar. My fire trap misses doesn't go off my next 3 arrows are misses and BAM frozen and dead. Seriously.


I actually leeched chaos with a shadow that I thought had a pretty spanking build.

He was gettign around with just zipping around with whirling blades, then killing stuff with lightning strike, which gave him pretty spectacular aoe. And the way that weapon elemental damage is overpowered atm, it seemed like also one of the best single target options, despite also having good aoe.

I don't know what he was doing defensively, if he was going evasion, ES/Evasion, pure ES, or armour or whatever, I suspect he will be armour+evasion+hp going into templar to grab catalyze. But yeah, I guess it makes sense to just build everything with weapon elemental damage when thats clearly the overpowered build atm.

On another note, I'm a bit sceptical about them increasing difficulty even more, the problem is not that the game is too easy, it's that weapon elemental damage is retardedly efficient compared to other forms of dps. By making mobs even harder than now it will just drive everyone to doing weapon elemental damage builds since it will be the only build efficient enough to let you really tank up enough to not instantly die on meeting a group of champion ranged dudes.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
May 29 2012 02:31 GMT
#2334
On May 28 2012 17:15 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 11:54 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah my only problem with it was that playing was god awfully slow. It took forever to clear areas without a reliable AoE I had trap of fire and Ethereal Knives but those didn't clear places fast enough.

Well fuck. I made it to the lower prison no problem, even killed the False God. So I find Chatters and begin kiting him and throwing fire traps. All is going well hes near dead I hit him and hes got NO red left in his bar. My fire trap misses doesn't go off my next 3 arrows are misses and BAM frozen and dead. Seriously.


I actually leeched chaos with a shadow that I thought had a pretty spanking build.

He was gettign around with just zipping around with whirling blades, then killing stuff with lightning strike, which gave him pretty spectacular aoe. And the way that weapon elemental damage is overpowered atm, it seemed like also one of the best single target options, despite also having good aoe.

I don't know what he was doing defensively, if he was going evasion, ES/Evasion, pure ES, or armour or whatever, I suspect he will be armour+evasion+hp going into templar to grab catalyze. But yeah, I guess it makes sense to just build everything with weapon elemental damage when thats clearly the overpowered build atm.

On another note, I'm a bit sceptical about them increasing difficulty even more, the problem is not that the game is too easy, it's that weapon elemental damage is retardedly efficient compared to other forms of dps. By making mobs even harder than now it will just drive everyone to doing weapon elemental damage builds since it will be the only build efficient enough to let you really tank up enough to not instantly die on meeting a group of champion ranged dudes.


They have already stated that weapon elemental damage is one of the things they need more balance-feedback on before they find a way for Avatar of Fire to return. They have buffed it a little more than what was needed, but it was weak before, so I think they have at least identified a range for the sweet-spot
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
May 29 2012 12:22 GMT
#2335
On May 29 2012 11:31 radiatoren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 17:15 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On May 17 2012 11:54 -Dustin- wrote:
Yeah my only problem with it was that playing was god awfully slow. It took forever to clear areas without a reliable AoE I had trap of fire and Ethereal Knives but those didn't clear places fast enough.

Well fuck. I made it to the lower prison no problem, even killed the False God. So I find Chatters and begin kiting him and throwing fire traps. All is going well hes near dead I hit him and hes got NO red left in his bar. My fire trap misses doesn't go off my next 3 arrows are misses and BAM frozen and dead. Seriously.


I actually leeched chaos with a shadow that I thought had a pretty spanking build.

He was gettign around with just zipping around with whirling blades, then killing stuff with lightning strike, which gave him pretty spectacular aoe. And the way that weapon elemental damage is overpowered atm, it seemed like also one of the best single target options, despite also having good aoe.

I don't know what he was doing defensively, if he was going evasion, ES/Evasion, pure ES, or armour or whatever, I suspect he will be armour+evasion+hp going into templar to grab catalyze. But yeah, I guess it makes sense to just build everything with weapon elemental damage when thats clearly the overpowered build atm.

On another note, I'm a bit sceptical about them increasing difficulty even more, the problem is not that the game is too easy, it's that weapon elemental damage is retardedly efficient compared to other forms of dps. By making mobs even harder than now it will just drive everyone to doing weapon elemental damage builds since it will be the only build efficient enough to let you really tank up enough to not instantly die on meeting a group of champion ranged dudes.


They have already stated that weapon elemental damage is one of the things they need more balance-feedback on before they find a way for Avatar of Fire to return. They have buffed it a little more than what was needed, but it was weak before, so I think they have at least identified a range for the sweet-spot


The problem was that it wasn't weak before, generally everyone hanging around chat in merciless is pretty much in agreement, that aof wasn't really the problem. Aof is just one (fairly strong) variation of builds that were taking advantage of the fact that weapon elemental damage was much easier to build towards than physical damage.

Quite a few people I've spoken to are of the opinion that Aof wasn't even the strongest of them, with good eq there were builds that had similar dps to aof, but were defensively much stronger (since they could actually resist cold). And now with those extra 20% weapon elemental damage passives those have become huge.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 19:45:32
June 01 2012 19:43 GMT
#2336
Open Beta announced expected for August ^__^
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/34106

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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 01 2012 20:03 GMT
#2337
More oversized spiders those with arachnophobia are going to love this
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
June 02 2012 15:28 GMT
#2338
There is a "to the core" ladderrace tonight 11 pm european time. The race is default league with no other objective than reaching the highest level!
Cannot be more simple and cannot be more difficult. Looking foreward to see y'all in 5 and a half hour!
Repeat before me
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
June 02 2012 22:53 GMT
#2339
Are those giant ticks?
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 00:49:07
June 05 2012 00:48 GMT
#2340
0.9.10 has been deployed with new flasks implemented, an insufficient nerf to elemental damage and a good buff to two-handed weapons as some of the most notable improvements.

Oh and a nerf to winwave-totem and its little brother decoy totem.
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