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On September 24 2016 01:22 Meta wrote:
I'm worried about the sustain from orb of storms, maybe try a Vessel of Vinktar for life/mana leach from lightning damage? Works great with mind over matter as well.
It is only an around 100c item.. I don't see myself ever getting that :D
And even if I did, this character will not have a good way to fill that flask fast.
I will also have LGoH, 1/3 of damage received will go into mana so I need less life leech. Also enemies will be Enfeebled and if I maybe decide to go for another curse they will be Temporal Chained as well. Also if I am able to get enough critical strike chance modifiers through gear I can switch Increased Critical Strike in Mjolner into Life Leech as well.
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On September 24 2016 04:27 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2016 01:22 Meta wrote:
I'm worried about the sustain from orb of storms, maybe try a Vessel of Vinktar for life/mana leach from lightning damage? Works great with mind over matter as well. It is only an around 100c item.. I don't see myself ever getting that :D And even if I did, this character will not have a good way to fill that flask fast. I will also have LGoH, 1/3 of damage received will go into mana so I need less life leech. Also enemies will be Enfeebled and if I maybe decide to go for another curse they will be Temporal Chained as well. Also if I am able to get enough critical strike chance modifiers through gear I can switch Increased Critical Strike in Mjolner into Life Leech as well.
you will be surprised at how fast currency can flow in one you get a character that clears yellow maps fast.
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Hmm if I get that unique ring that turns half lightning damage into cold I can also at least chill enemies and slow them down that way as well :D
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On September 24 2016 04:14 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2016 03:11 Lachrymose wrote:
Does anybody else feel like they've silently adjusted map drops down in the last couple of days/week? Like they realised Atlas was way stronger than they thought or something.
I was pretty quickly and comfortably building up red maps this league but lately it's very difficult. And it's not just high tier maps, my low tier maps are getting eaten up by the chisel recipe faster than they replenish which is pretty much absurd.
Rolling maps normally I dropped back to t10. Since then I've been doing alc and go + Perandus and I'm still falling backwards. Currently quickly burning through t9s which just seems ridiculous. This is over the course of hundreds and hundreds of maps. Is your atlas bonus above 100 yet ? If so I strongly suggest reduce it back to 99. Plato suddenly got his 40 red maps pool wiped off yday, and my red maps pool also got reduced by 25+ before I did it and suddenly map drop seemed ok again.
Unfortunately not. However maybe there is something to that in a less strict way. My Atlas hasn't changed really for two weeks except for one unique map completion that was possibly around the time Everything Went Downhill. I will try removing it and see what happens. It sounds ridiculous but maybe something spooky is going on.
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New to PoE, does the Increased Area of Effect gem increase non-elemental Melee stuff like Sweep?
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Generally it will work on any skill that has "AoE" in the tags section at the top and isn't at all dependant on or related to elemental-ness. This includes Sweep and Cleave, which both have "AoE".
For more esoteric interactions the wiki is generally pretty good about letting you know if something will work.
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Just FYI today is the best Uber Lab day since a long time, probably the best this league yet. It's quick (no gold doors, fast rooms) and imo the phases couldn't be much better. Portals is more leech for free and Fonts does nothing with an anti-curse flask.
Just had 2 chests with maps, got 5 maps I didn't know yet, including Oba's Cursed Trove (exploring the Atlas completely self-found).
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So I did end up removing that unique map and have been mapping. The results were immediately extremely compelling but I resisted posting about it right away, because varianceblahblah, etc.
However the positive change to my map drop experience has not stopped at all. Went from T9 (and remember, I was unsustainable at T9 over a very big sample size before) back up to T12 in just a couple of maps. Since then my pool of T9s, T10s, T11s and T12s is growing again. This is so far removed from my experience over the last week.
Something seriously spooky is going on with regard to Atlas completion that isn't just "100+ makes something break."
*Also, how long until Uber resets in hours, roughly?
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About 14h from now.
The response plato got from Chris regarding the 100/125 completion was also pretty.... not useful or satisfying.
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On September 24 2016 18:48 r.Evo wrote:
About 14h from now.
The response plato got from Chris regarding the 100/125 completion was also pretty.... not useful or satisfying.
What was Chris's reply ?
What I think we should do is just doing atlas as high as possible, then if a seemingly cold streak come, it might be that we hit a (bug) seed that fuck up the drop rate, so to play it safe just remove any one map to restart the seed.
That sounds not scientific at all but better than keep thinking it's only a cold streak and then lose your entire map pool.
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You guys sure it's not just RNG being RNG? Haven't seen such topic at Reddit.
I'm close to 100 at the Atlas, will soon reach it. Will see then for myself I guess. So far I'm easily able to keep up T12-13 maps, but haven't been higher than T14 (played like 10, but no T15 drops).
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On September 24 2016 20:35 HolydaKing wrote:
You guys sure it's not just RNG being RNG? Haven't seen such topic at Reddit.
I'm close to 100 at the Atlas, will soon reach it. Will see then for myself I guess. So far I'm easily able to keep up T12-13 maps, but haven't been higher than T14 (played like 10, but no T15 drops).
I mean, I think Plato & I when notice map stop dropping start to roll mao really hard, like at least double pack size 80q hard. RNG for maps is really wide but losing a pool of 40 reds within 45 runs and 24 reds within 30 runs I cant help but think something fishy is going on here.
Edit: saw plato's thread on reddit, it didn't make front page so I missed it. Also think his is the only one on the issue not getting downvote heavily :|
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Yeah I can see why it wouldn't make it to the front page, I don't think a lot of people have 100+ on the Atlas yet. At least the majority hasn't.
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On September 24 2016 20:35 HolydaKing wrote:
You guys sure it's not just RNG being RNG? Haven't seen such topic at Reddit.
I'm close to 100 at the Atlas, will soon reach it. Will see then for myself I guess. So far I'm easily able to keep up T12-13 maps, but haven't been higher than T14 (played like 10, but no T15 drops).
There's actually a couple of topics about it but nobody really pays attention to map whining in general so they didn't get much traction.
My timeline is like:
Design Atlas for chaining Gorges.
Chain Gorges for a week selling T14s and non-Vault T12s.
Randomly make a set of Treasure Hunter and run Vaults of Atziri for the hell of it.
Spend a week burning though hundreds of maps until I'm almost out of T9s. (!) Not even dropping low tier maps for chisel recipe.
Remove Vaults of Atziri from the Atlas.
Immediately go back to chaining Vaults and running Gorges and having T10-T11 dropping in surplus, plus chisel maps again.
I don't know man. I only did a couple of hours of mapping because Uber Lab is as ridiculously good as you guys said, but it's night and day.
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Just for reference this is the thread people are talking about.
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All of what you guys said can happen even without any bug. I've had ridiculous bad luck before a lot of times. Mapping can be a really terrible experience at times, and great on other days. I know three or so leagues ago I never had a solid red map pool while others claimed to manage that even without chiseling.
In Atlas so far I had decent luck, but before I honestly would've thought it's normal to lose any pool of red maps after playing a lot. This seems to have changed though, or my luck has.
edit: Well let's see, Chris said they didn't find a bug yet but will check again.
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Have you ever had T9s not be sustainable? And does that sound possible at all with the +1 Atlas bonus? That's the equivalent of T8s not being sustainable in previous leagues. That's just not a thing.
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On September 24 2016 21:19 Lachrymose wrote:
Have you ever had T9s not be sustainable? And does that sound possible at all with the +1 Atlas bonus? That's the equivalent of T8s not being sustainable in previous leagues. That's just not a thing.
It's possible but not likely, not too long ago I got sick playing T7 (which had horrible layouts then) and only went up by buying some T10, after that I never went back to T7 though.
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Well the main thing is that Plato ran 19 t1 without a map drop from non-magic/rare/unique monster. That just must be really far outside of acceptable deviant range even for map RNG if it's not bugged.
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On September 24 2016 17:47 HolydaKing wrote:
Just FYI today is the best Uber Lab day since a long time, probably the best this league yet. It's quick (no gold doors, fast rooms) and imo the phases couldn't be much better. Portals is more leech for free and Fonts does nothing with an anti-curse flask.
Just had 2 chests with maps, got 5 maps I didn't know yet, including Oba's Cursed Trove (exploring the Atlas completely self-found).
Thx, a lot. I've bee delaying uber lab for this char for some reason and today's lab was indeed hilariously easy.
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