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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 16:18:18
May 26 2016 16:16 GMT
#21461
On May 27 2016 01:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 01:04 travis wrote:
On May 27 2016 00:59 Ryndika wrote:
Armour is pretty weak in end game compared to dmg conversion like LC/ToH.


I don't agree with that. There was a time when sure, I think that would be true. But these days there are a *ton* of strong defensive options other than % mitigation armour.

Yeah Juggernaut with tons of armour investment AND endurance charges works well.

you mean juggernaut with free permanent physical immunity works well
why waste time on armour and shit lol

I just hope they release a solid way to actually freeze yourself.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 26 2016 16:32 GMT
#21462
On May 27 2016 01:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 01:09 HolydaKing wrote:
On May 27 2016 01:04 travis wrote:
On May 27 2016 00:59 Ryndika wrote:
Armour is pretty weak in end game compared to dmg conversion like LC/ToH.


I don't agree with that. There was a time when sure, I think that would be true. But these days there are a *ton* of strong defensive options other than % mitigation armour.

Yeah Juggernaut with tons of armour investment AND endurance charges works well.

you mean juggernaut with free permanent physical immunity works well
why waste time on armour and shit lol

I just hope they release a solid way to actually freeze yourself.


yeah I kinda didn't like that, it's like why get the double body armor if you can get permanent immunity

but I'll tell you why. the double armor will always be there.. dont want something to go wrong and get 1hit when I have no mitigation, lol

also the route to permanent IC is 4 points, and there's some other mighty fine stuff on that tree
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2016 16:39 GMT
#21463
There's 10 points and you get 8 of them eventually I'm not sure what the problem is.

Plus you get to run bloodrage free now (not that it was ever a big issue as marauder but free is free).

The big question to me is how deep do you go into auto-proccing the immortal call since the easiest proc is CWDT + doedre's elixir but that flask uses it's charges real fast and marauders pay dearly to get flask nodes. Most of the other potential triggers are less consistent.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 26 2016 16:45 GMT
#21464
On May 27 2016 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
There's 10 points and you get 8 of them eventually I'm not sure what the problem is.

Plus you get to run bloodrage free now (not that it was ever a big issue as marauder but free is free).

The big question to me is how deep do you go into auto-proccing the immortal call since the easiest proc is CWDT + doedre's elixir but that flask uses it's charges real fast and marauders pay dearly to get flask nodes. Most of the other potential triggers are less consistent.


there's 12
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
May 26 2016 16:55 GMT
#21465
most people play sc or hc these days?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 26 2016 17:10 GMT
#21466
I am playing hc. I think typically the leagues start out with most people playing hc, and then switch to most people playing sc by the end
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 17:11:46
May 26 2016 17:11 GMT
#21467
On May 27 2016 02:10 travis wrote:
I am playing hc. I think typically the leagues start out with most people playing hc, and then switch to most people playing sc by the end

If we talk about everyone, then you can just say most people play SC. Even at the beginning.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 17:18:20
May 26 2016 17:17 GMT
#21468
oh I meant TL people. ofc overall more standard players
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#21469
On May 27 2016 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
There's 10 points and you get 8 of them eventually I'm not sure what the problem is.

Plus you get to run bloodrage free now (not that it was ever a big issue as marauder but free is free).

The big question to me is how deep do you go into auto-proccing the immortal call since the easiest proc is CWDT + doedre's elixir but that flask uses it's charges real fast and marauders pay dearly to get flask nodes. Most of the other potential triggers are less consistent.

With the new juggernaut node you can just enduring cry + immortal call every 3 seconds and get perma physical immunity
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2016 17:48 GMT
#21470
I'd prefer not to spend >1 second out of every 3 trying to cast defensive spells hence my desire to automatically proc it. Clearspeed meta and all that.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 26 2016 23:27 GMT
#21471
On May 27 2016 02:17 EchelonTee wrote:
oh I meant TL people. ofc overall more standard players

I'd say that SC has more people active in the guild but HC in the first ~2 weeks has the more active individuals if that makes sense. After 4+ weeks at the latest SC is most definitely more active either way.

Personally I think I'll do something similar like last league where I start out HC and then swap over eventually for challenges and to just chill. I feel like that got me to have fun with the best of both worlds. :3

As a sidenote since the official TL TS is now definitely out of service for the new leagues you guys are free to either use the TL discord or a TS I ended up renting because I don't want to deal with discord personally. Channels are set up and I'll be around on launch for sure.

+ Show Spoiler +

Adress: teamspeak-de01fn.typefrag.com:5885
Password: evopls
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 26 2016 23:41 GMT
#21472
On May 27 2016 08:27 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:17 EchelonTee wrote:
oh I meant TL people. ofc overall more standard players

I'd say that SC has more people active in the guild but HC in the first ~2 weeks has the more active individuals if that makes sense. After 4+ weeks at the latest SC is most definitely more active either way.

Personally I think I'll do something similar like last league where I start out HC and then swap over eventually for challenges and to just chill. I feel like that got me to have fun with the best of both worlds. :3

As a sidenote since the official TL TS is now definitely out of service for the new leagues you guys are free to either use the TL discord or a TS I ended up renting because I don't want to deal with discord personally. Channels are set up and I'll be around on launch for sure.

+ Show Spoiler +

Adress: teamspeak-de01fn.typefrag.com:5885
Password: evopls

Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like discord.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-28 00:18:34
May 26 2016 23:46 GMT
#21473
I would recommend just using Evo's Teamspeak server rather than discord, but if there is interest...

+ Show Spoiler [discord stuff] +
The official TL discord path of exile stuff got removed because we weren't using it. I still have a path of exile discord server I set up last league when we were still using Teamspeak if there is interest in discord.

https://discord.gg/0lCp0isWtJenqzkp

Note that the server is currently empty as I haven't released the link before. If you have any concerns about the server or suggestions for improvement please send me a private message on the discord server (CloudMephisto).
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
May 27 2016 00:57 GMT
#21474
sounds good, I'll hit up Evo's TS when the league starts. I think I'll start SC because I'm pretty nooby now. Been running through content in Standard to get re-acclimated and I have like 6 deaths at lvl 75 x.x mostly A4 stuff
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
May 27 2016 01:56 GMT
#21475
One thing I need to theorycraft when I have a bit of free time is windripper vs new voltaxic. Wondering if the former will come back in vogue with the conversion nerf.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
May 27 2016 07:22 GMT
#21476
Would be nice to get people to the discord channel. Anyone interested in party mapping in next league?
as useful as teasalt
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 27 2016 08:05 GMT
#21477
By the way, why are they buffing Wand + Sceptre implicits? And apparently without touching Staves as well? I was under the impression Staves already were underused.
xpldngmn
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria264 Posts
May 27 2016 08:23 GMT
#21478
Switched over from D3 about a month ago, holy check this game is awesome.

Please add me to the clan, username is the same as here: xpldngmn
Non-native speaker, those prepositions are so hard to know.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
May 27 2016 11:12 GMT
#21479
On May 27 2016 17:05 HolydaKing wrote:
By the way, why are they buffing Wand + Sceptre implicits? And apparently without touching Staves as well? I was under the impression Staves already were underused.


They are getting buffed so they compete better with daggers, though it remains to be seen if 30 spell damage can compete with whirling blades, lol. Staves are underused other than pledge of hands, but I guess they think that being able to roll +3 gives them a purpose.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 11:21:03
May 27 2016 11:20 GMT
#21480
On May 27 2016 20:12 ThaddeusK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 17:05 HolydaKing wrote:
By the way, why are they buffing Wand + Sceptre implicits? And apparently without touching Staves as well? I was under the impression Staves already were underused.


They are getting buffed so they compete better with daggers, though it remains to be seen if 30 spell damage can compete with whirling blades, lol. Staves are underused other than pledge of hands, but I guess they think that being able to roll +3 gives them a purpose.

If that's why... then that's definitely the wrong approach. Decently geared people will want to use Daggers for Whirling Blades anyway, no matter how much Spell Damage they put on Wand / Sceptres. It'll just reduce the use of Staves even more. Was Pledge really being used recently? I guess for SRS Staves will always be best for the +3, but other than that, especially with the new implicits, I doubt they can compete well with dual wielding Wands/Sceptres.
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