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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 07 2016 18:32 GMT
#20941
Well you can't run sunblast with CA trap (lel 20% duration poison clouds) so your blink arrow trap is still going to need an enemy to trigger it which means it's still a shit movement plan
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 07 2016 18:39 GMT
#20942
On March 08 2016 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well you can't run sunblast with CA trap (lel 20% duration poison clouds) so your blink arrow trap is still going to need an enemy to trigger it which means it's still a shit movement plan

Oh lol, you are right I forgot that stat on Sunblast.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8685 Posts
March 07 2016 19:24 GMT
#20943
I think I confused Mirror Arrow with another of those Minion Arrow skills, lol.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 07 2016 19:33 GMT
#20944
okay so anyone done cruel lab on hc? Im 3.7k hp with 79 all res and 2k armor.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 07 2016 19:36 GMT
#20945
I've heard from multiple sources that you can expect 3k phys burst. As long as you can survive the burst and have the sustain to keep yourself at near full hp for the fight you should be OK. It kinda depends on your damage skill too though. Dual flame totems can cheese virtually everything eventually. Low-QOL melee builds on the other hand have a much higher threshold for survivability because they can't really be DPSing nearly as much while dodging etc.

I'll admit I haven't run it but my friend did it at around 63ish as a summoner without issue (6k es rofl)
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 19:56:29
March 07 2016 19:48 GMT
#20946
On March 08 2016 03:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean CA is also able to carefully and constantly dodge things right. 1-shots in this game are almost invariably telegraphed to some extent so it makes sense.

On another note some character with the name "EvoPls[...]" has a Kaoms heart for sale is that somebody in here?


EvoPlsDonaldDrumpfAgain is Evo yes.

actually it is parsing as one of his standard characters for whatever reason, but ^_^

On March 08 2016 04:33 solidbebe wrote:
okay so anyone done cruel lab on hc? Im 3.7k hp with 79 all res and 2k armor.


Evo checked all the damages on standard and the most damaging was the ground slam at 2.8k

I would suggest waiting until the boss fight has a room without poison darts though. Those things are terror.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 07 2016 19:58 GMT
#20947
Will do. Poison darts are fine until theyre coupled with anything else, then they become hell. Is the 2.8k dmg after armor/damage reductions?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 20:07:11
March 07 2016 20:06 GMT
#20948
On March 08 2016 04:58 solidbebe wrote:
Will do. Poison darts are fine until theyre coupled with anything else, then they become hell. Is the 2.8k dmg after armor/damage reductions?


It looks like his gear has 92 armor. Ev/Dodge character with a jade flask.

EvoPlzLessButtons was the test char.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 07 2016 21:19 GMT
#20949
Yeah shock nova is fun but it's significantly worse than other builds against stuff like Izaro. Will probably just get tanky and more deeps before trying.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 21:54:09
March 07 2016 21:49 GMT
#20950
On March 08 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yeah shock nova is fun but it's significantly worse than other builds against stuff like Izaro. Will probably just get tanky and more deeps before trying.

Ehh, level some other skill for stuff like that? Like Storm Call (AoE too) or Spark. Getting a Vaal Storm Call should help too.

edit: though nvm the last thing, i don't think you can have souls at that fight.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 22:23:08
March 07 2016 22:21 GMT
#20951
On March 08 2016 06:49 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yeah shock nova is fun but it's significantly worse than other builds against stuff like Izaro. Will probably just get tanky and more deeps before trying.

Ehh, level some other skill for stuff like that? Like Storm Call (AoE too) or Spark. Getting a Vaal Storm Call should help too.

edit: though nvm the last thing, i don't think you can have souls at that fight.


That's a good idea, storm call seems like a solid option. I'm pretty undergeared atm as well, so once I optimize a bit it should work fine.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 22:54:20
March 07 2016 22:53 GMT
#20952
On March 08 2016 06:49 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yeah shock nova is fun but it's significantly worse than other builds against stuff like Izaro. Will probably just get tanky and more deeps before trying.

Ehh, level some other skill for stuff like that? Like Storm Call (AoE too) or Spark. Getting a Vaal Storm Call should help too.

edit: though nvm the last thing, i don't think you can have souls at that fight.


You can't have souls since it's a brand new area and boss summons don't give them afaik. It kind of sucks, I was hoping to Vaal Double Strike liquify him like most bosses but nope.

Maybe one of those funky Vaal Soul on shattered enemy skills could do it.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 02:50:44
March 08 2016 02:35 GMT
#20953
Has anyone tried out coc quill rain? I'm guessing it would be done with physical abilities. Just throwing around some shit in poe.db trying to figure out a proper build, currently looking at a hybrid build. What sort of es/life % should I go for on the tree?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 10:28:48
March 08 2016 10:25 GMT
#20954
On March 08 2016 03:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean CA is also able to carefully and constantly dodge things right. 1-shots in this game are almost invariably telegraphed to some extent so it makes sense.

On another note some character with the name "EvoPls[...]" has a Kaoms heart for sale is that somebody in here?

Yeah that was me/us. Kick and me bought a Kaom's off AngryAAs stream for 7.5k coins, we had it up for sale and traded it for a +1 Drillneck a few hours ago. Not sure if the smartest move but if that thing sells we'd be golden. I also got a LC in the unique Vaal Pyramid that's shared with Kick/Lag and just dropped another LC myself.

GOOD THAT THIS HAPPENS IN THE CHEAPEST LEAGUE EVER. #neverluckyevenwhenlucky

On March 08 2016 04:58 solidbebe wrote:
Will do. Poison darts are fine until theyre coupled with anything else, then they become hell. Is the 2.8k dmg after armor/damage reductions?

Cloud lied a bit, test character was EvoPlsNoAnorLondo aka my only char in Standard. Armour still pretty much zero.

My Izaro fight was unbuffed in terms of him gaining damage (if you ever see him with Frenzy charges alt+f4 unless you know better), Slam/Sunder/Daresso move seemed to be around 2.8k.

The worst parts of the fight imo are the very first moment you enter (in my HC fight he casted his Earthquake first and slowed me to hell) and if you ever get hit by the Poison Darts (again, more slow). You can literally walk around him in a circle and never get hit by any of his attacks. Also make sure you roughly understand how the first two fights work on the specific day so you don't fuck up anything too much.

Don't ever change direction if there's spike traps in the room, at least I had to focus on that since usually I swap directions sometimes. Always wait for darts to shoot before you cross the road. I did it with 3.2k HP at level 70 on my CA and it was totally fine but I also didn't panic. Doing it on Standard first is prolly a good idea just to see it once and see for yourself how he himself is no threat at all.

Damage wise I'd recommend roughly so much that Voll in Merciless Dried lake feels reasonable, the point where your build is like "Nice I can start clearing Voll too without it feeling annoying". It's prolly a bit more than needed but it does the trick.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 08 2016 11:22 GMT
#20955
Opinions on this as a build for coc quil rain?

I'm thinking about putting 2 volley fire jewels into 6 of the available slots, and with 2% life leech in the tree that leaves barrage/coc/4 other spells. I'm a bit worried that I'll be pretty over the cap for crit chance with gear for my spells, as I'm ball parking roughly 70% crit chance with barrage with 6 power charges up. Not entirely sure how my defense is looking, I have 173% energy shield at lvl 95, but I have 4/5 jewel slots left over to boost it up a bit. Any constructive criticism would be appreciated, even if it's just to tell me that it sucks.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 08 2016 12:57 GMT
#20956
On March 08 2016 19:25 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 03:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean CA is also able to carefully and constantly dodge things right. 1-shots in this game are almost invariably telegraphed to some extent so it makes sense.

On another note some character with the name "EvoPls[...]" has a Kaoms heart for sale is that somebody in here?

Yeah that was me/us. Kick and me bought a Kaom's off AngryAAs stream for 7.5k coins, we had it up for sale and traded it for a +1 Drillneck a few hours ago. Not sure if the smartest move but if that thing sells we'd be golden. I also got a LC in the unique Vaal Pyramid that's shared with Kick/Lag and just dropped another LC myself.

GOOD THAT THIS HAPPENS IN THE CHEAPEST LEAGUE EVER. #neverluckyevenwhenlucky

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 04:58 solidbebe wrote:
Will do. Poison darts are fine until theyre coupled with anything else, then they become hell. Is the 2.8k dmg after armor/damage reductions?

Cloud lied a bit, test character was EvoPlsNoAnorLondo aka my only char in Standard. Armour still pretty much zero.

My Izaro fight was unbuffed in terms of him gaining damage (if you ever see him with Frenzy charges alt+f4 unless you know better), Slam/Sunder/Daresso move seemed to be around 2.8k.

The worst parts of the fight imo are the very first moment you enter (in my HC fight he casted his Earthquake first and slowed me to hell) and if you ever get hit by the Poison Darts (again, more slow). You can literally walk around him in a circle and never get hit by any of his attacks. Also make sure you roughly understand how the first two fights work on the specific day so you don't fuck up anything too much.

Don't ever change direction if there's spike traps in the room, at least I had to focus on that since usually I swap directions sometimes. Always wait for darts to shoot before you cross the road. I did it with 3.2k HP at level 70 on my CA and it was totally fine but I also didn't panic. Doing it on Standard first is prolly a good idea just to see it once and see for yourself how he himself is no threat at all.

Damage wise I'd recommend roughly so much that Voll in Merciless Dried lake feels reasonable, the point where your build is like "Nice I can start clearing Voll too without it feeling annoying". It's prolly a bit more than needed but it does the trick.

Thx for the extensive answer . I might try my hand at cruel lab today.

On another topic.

This is my current build at lvl 69.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwUA8a9PBO1hApZDyJx70nxboJJup1W8VnwOaPLwH3xLogCWdASzwGY8BUVHn9_vfDLRmjvr7oKbfIOnCJrghTLsOBEtna7a3Y9GRZ2FezrYLJwabJuhU1JmVCcvBUI26RhqkFVBliSqeC8aOK6z0PUWb3zlTLPjalgHBAeXlevkg9tSU18qVcY9X5f0dFU6WG0ZCPQi9MBUbAu86mpDkyd_xu-IUzURlvk3UEIHHow2lS4HY1VLidPw1cu9YeJwUklR5oEmlSoLFr9d8g==

As you can see ive taken whispers of doom (additional curse) which cost me 6 points to get there. I have a Doedres Damning (unique ring) which also gives an additional curse. So my question is, do you guys think its worth it to 'sacrifice' one ring slot to regain these 6 points. Id probably spend these points on doomcast or celestial punishment.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 13:35:26
March 08 2016 13:14 GMT
#20957
On March 08 2016 20:22 bo1b wrote:
Opinions on this as a build for coc quil rain?

I'm thinking about putting 2 volley fire jewels into 6 of the available slots, and with 2% life leech in the tree that leaves barrage/coc/4 other spells. I'm a bit worried that I'll be pretty over the cap for crit chance with gear for my spells, as I'm ball parking roughly 70% crit chance with barrage with 6 power charges up. Not entirely sure how my defense is looking, I have 173% energy shield at lvl 95, but I have 4/5 jewel slots left over to boost it up a bit. Any constructive criticism would be appreciated, even if it's just to tell me that it sucks.

I gotta say I dislike that build quite a bit. The Life leech doesn't work for spells, so it will do close to nothing. Volley Fire also only works with 50+ Dex allocated in Medium(!) range, which none of your jewel slots has. If you want to play with ES... My suggestion would be something like this, assuming you are going to use elemental projectile spells with 2 Volley Fire slots for CoC. I'm pretty sure there are things I missed though.

You will definitely need Elreon Jewelry btw, but I guess you already know.

@guy above me, one of your choices doesn't make sense. you took 8% mana nodes that weren't required when there are 8% mana nodes with 10% regen at witch. Also Light of Divinity in the templar tree is pretty good, but perhaps you gonna grab that later. As for your question... I got no idea, it's a hard choice which depends on what rings you have available and which points you could grab instead. But if it was me I'd sacrifice one ring for Doedre, if you only want 2 curses.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 13:36:59
March 08 2016 13:35 GMT
#20958
Thanks for that suggestion at least Im gonna respec that right away!

edit* nvm that was just in the tree I didnt actually spec that haha
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8685 Posts
March 08 2016 20:32 GMT
#20959
May someone invite me to Math of Exile? Charname is BoneLettuce.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 08 2016 20:42 GMT
#20960
On March 09 2016 05:32 Miragee wrote:
May someone invite me to Math of Exile? Charname is BoneLettuce.


Sent.
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