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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
March 01 2016 08:31 GMT
#20661
On March 01 2016 11:03 r.Evo wrote:
Holy shit it's happening.



Does this make procurement/Acquisotion obsolete ? Anyway, that's a great news !
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
March 01 2016 08:44 GMT
#20662
On March 01 2016 17:31 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 11:03 r.Evo wrote:
Holy shit it's happening.



Does this make procurement/Acquisotion obsolete ? Anyway, that's a great news !

If you have (enough) premium stash tabs then yes, it does. It's going to be great.
~
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
March 01 2016 09:31 GMT
#20663
On March 01 2016 11:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Too bad I have like 50 stash tabs, but none of them are premium so this makes me very unhappy.


I don't understand why they put this feature on premium tabs only. Only because of f2p accounts? I only bought premium tabs because of color coding so I might use the new system instead of Procurement. What I honestly like more about this change is this:

A common issue with the third-party trading websites right now is the lack of reliable data about which players are online. To address this, we have created a new API that allows third-party websites to be able to get this information. The third party websites you use to find items will be updated to use this API soon!


On the matter of premium tabs: Have you ever experienced the problem that the tabs don't keep their order when you log out? Sometimes I log back in and they changed order... Pretty unnerving.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
March 01 2016 10:32 GMT
#20664
On March 01 2016 02:26 Fatmatt2000 wrote:
I havn't played POE in quite awhile and was if anyone could fill me in on trapper builds for the new league coming up.

Last time I played a trapper it was all about crit fire trap/conc effect/ele prolif, but since then I believe ele prolif has been changed substantially and this isnt the build anymore.

So what do people do for trappers these days? I saw there was a new ice trap gem looks cool but how do you build around it/does it do enough damage without any dot effects to kill stuff efficiently? I also read poison traps were a thing good/bad/expensive?

tl;dr whats the best trapper setup for the new league?


If you read this, I'm not fully aware of everything because I was away for a few months as well, but I'll let you know my thoughts regardless:

1. I don't think Fire Trap prolif is dead. It's way weaker than before but back then it one-shoted rares without any expensive gear. I think it's still kind of viable.

2. Traps can be played with a lot of skills. There isn't a new ice trap as far as I'm aware. People have been playing Cold Snap Trap for ages to freeze mobs with prolif. What you may have seen is Ice Crash Trap on Phox's stream? You can do physical traps (Rain of Arrow for example) or poison traps (e.g. Caustic Arrow) as well.

3. Traps are usually good for budget builds. You might want a few uniques but you can do without and those uniques usually aren't expensive, either. I chose the poison trapper because I wanted to play it for ages but didn't get around and I think it's a fairly budget build for a league start because the only requirements are a +2/+3 bow and empower. It should run rather well on a 4 link. If you chose another trap or another skill for a trap you might want to pick something that a) damages in a circleand b) doesn't require you to wear a high dmg weapon (because budget).
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 01 2016 13:12 GMT
#20665
There is literally a new skill called Ice trap. Verbatim


On March 01 2016 19:32 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 02:26 Fatmatt2000 wrote:
I havn't played POE in quite awhile and was if anyone could fill me in on trapper builds for the new league coming up.

Last time I played a trapper it was all about crit fire trap/conc effect/ele prolif, but since then I believe ele prolif has been changed substantially and this isnt the build anymore.

So what do people do for trappers these days? I saw there was a new ice trap gem looks cool but how do you build around it/does it do enough damage without any dot effects to kill stuff efficiently? I also read poison traps were a thing good/bad/expensive?

tl;dr whats the best trapper setup for the new league?


If you read this, I'm not fully aware of everything because I was away for a few months as well, but I'll let you know my thoughts regardless:

1. I don't think Fire Trap prolif is dead. It's way weaker than before but back then it one-shoted rares without any expensive gear. I think it's still kind of viable.

2. Traps can be played with a lot of skills. There isn't a new ice trap as far as I'm aware. People have been playing Cold Snap Trap for ages to freeze mobs with prolif. What you may have seen is Ice Crash Trap on Phox's stream? You can do physical traps (Rain of Arrow for example) or poison traps (e.g. Caustic Arrow) as well.

3. Traps are usually good for budget builds. You might want a few uniques but you can do without and those uniques usually aren't expensive, either. I chose the poison trapper because I wanted to play it for ages but didn't get around and I think it's a fairly budget build for a league start because the only requirements are a +2/+3 bow and empower. It should run rather well on a 4 link. If you chose another trap or another skill for a trap you might want to pick something that a) damages in a circleand b) doesn't require you to wear a high dmg weapon (because budget).

rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
March 01 2016 13:23 GMT
#20666
I missed that, sorry. What is the point of Multiple Traps if you have Cluster Traps?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 01 2016 14:25 GMT
#20667
So.... cleanup time. The original idea with kicking everyone who didn't get any achievement sounds like a failure cause that's almost half the guild. Well done people. :3

Please take a look here and if you do not have a single achievement in Talisman and plan to be active during Ascendancy post in here (or PM me, I prefer posts tho) with your accountname. Yes you can also post for your buddies but it's always nice to have TL accounts associated with names from time to time.

Exceptions to this are officers, semioldguy, Tongar, BisuProbe, Tennet, Capped, Otolia, BLinDRawR and Aixler. At least those are the names of people I either know directly or associate with TL vets but I'm pretty sure I'm missing some. =P

I'll do the purging in a day or two so those who are checking forums frequently shouldn't miss it, the rest can get grabbed again asap as usual. Cheers. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
March 01 2016 14:36 GMT
#20668
I do plan on being active after this week, so I will be missing the launch of ascendancy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 01 2016 15:13 GMT
#20669
I will start playing on friday again, IGN is also Vallelol
Athosuk
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
March 01 2016 15:23 GMT
#20670
Didn't play Talisman but planning to play Ascendancy, account name = Inioch.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 15:54:15
March 01 2016 15:54 GMT
#20671
Necromancer is really, really dumb as a defensive ascendancy. You can get max block with the acro penalty from bone offering, a rumi's and a shield, no block from tree or jewels required. You get hit by 15% of attacks before counting evasion and 17.5% of spells plus every time you block you a get a big chunk of life back.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 15:57:54
March 01 2016 15:57 GMT
#20672
30% less block chance means you need 107% chance to cap block which you can't get from offering (35) shield (32 is very high) and rumis (30). Still, its very strong. I question the value of acro but what do I know.

("less block chance" is multiplicative not subtractive)
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 01 2016 15:59 GMT
#20673
dodge comes before block right?
so it may actually be better to not have acro, because then you block more and get dem big life chunks
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
March 01 2016 17:25 GMT
#20674
On March 02 2016 00:59 travis wrote:
dodge comes before block right?
so it may actually be better to not have acro, because then you block more and get dem big life chunks


Yes, but a hit that stuns you and is being blocked will cause a block animation, i.e. it's like a stun (which should be the case for most hits if you do not go armor and/or endurance charges).


On March 01 2016 19:32 Miragee wrote:
3. Traps are usually good for budget builds. You might want a few uniques but you can do without and those uniques usually aren't expensive, either. I chose the poison trapper because I wanted to play it for ages but didn't get around and I think it's a fairly budget build for a league start because the only requirements are a +2/+3 bow and empower. It should run rather well on a 4 link. If you chose another trap or another skill for a trap you might want to pick something that a) damages in a circleand b) doesn't require you to wear a high dmg weapon (because budget).


I don't want to discourage you from that build, but CA has so many more multiplier skill gems by now (Rapid Decay, Slower projectiles and Void Manipulation) that the more multiplier from trap not really a damage boost (unless you intend to go point blank or something along those lines).

I played CA last league as my first build and for that I think it was great (grabbed IR -- super easy leveling with grace) but late game (say starting with 74 maps maybe) I felt that my damage fell off. Even more so in parties. This was with a 5link +3 bow and seven frenzy charges.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 01 2016 18:06 GMT
#20675
On March 02 2016 02:25 incinerate_ wrote:
I played CA last league as my first build and for that I think it was great (grabbed IR -- super easy leveling with grace) but late game (say starting with 74 maps maybe) I felt that my damage fell off. Even more so in parties. This was with a 5link +3 bow and seven frenzy charges.

5L +3 is a really weird thing since a white 6L is cheap enough and you can craft +3 for 2-3ex and some spare change. Just mentioning that since I've seen people still getting ripped off with 10+ ex +3 bows that apparently sold all the time. Parties are complete balls tho I fully agree.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 01 2016 18:18 GMT
#20676
I'm pretty sure I'm going trapper even tho I hate the saboteur tree. Just left to see if it'd gonna be mirror arrow trap or standard ele traps
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 01 2016 18:19 GMT
#20677
On March 01 2016 23:25 r.Evo wrote:
So.... cleanup time. The original idea with kicking everyone who didn't get any achievement sounds like a failure cause that's almost half the guild. Well done people. :3

Please take a look here and if you do not have a single achievement in Talisman and plan to be active during Ascendancy post in here (or PM me, I prefer posts tho) with your accountname. Yes you can also post for your buddies but it's always nice to have TL accounts associated with names from time to time.

Exceptions to this are officers, semioldguy, Tongar, BisuProbe, Tennet, Capped, Otolia, BLinDRawR and Aixler. At least those are the names of people I either know directly or associate with TL vets but I'm pretty sure I'm missing some. =P

I'll do the purging in a day or two so those who are checking forums frequently shouldn't miss it, the rest can get grabbed again asap as usual. Cheers. <3

Yay I have an achievement!
I'm going to attempt to play (though I'm not sure exactly how much) plz don't kick me Mr Evo
:D :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
March 01 2016 18:20 GMT
#20678
On March 02 2016 03:06 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:25 incinerate_ wrote:
I played CA last league as my first build and for that I think it was great (grabbed IR -- super easy leveling with grace) but late game (say starting with 74 maps maybe) I felt that my damage fell off. Even more so in parties. This was with a 5link +3 bow and seven frenzy charges.

5L +3 is a really weird thing since a white 6L is cheap enough and you can craft +3 for 2-3ex and some spare change. Just mentioning that since I've seen people still getting ripped off with 10+ ex +3 bows that apparently sold all the time. Parties are complete balls tho I fully agree.


I think I bought mine for about 1ex (might be misremembering) already 6 socketed earlyish in the league (THC). As far as my observation of the market was at that time that +3s sold for about 1ex, 2 if they also had a Leo mod crafted on to them.

The annoying thing with buying a 6link is that you need to check for the item level whether it can actually roll +3 (granted that should now be fairly easy).
I don't have any data on alt + regal spamming +3 but if it's anything like staffs then Catarina level 8 is pretty much the only way. But yeah if you have access to that then I think it's 2 ex.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 01 2016 18:25 GMT
#20679
I believe it's deterministically craftable if you roll +2 bow then put "cannot roll attack mods" on it. Which costs 2 ex but completes the craft afaik?

Or something like that I've never done it but it's definitely doable.
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 01 2016 18:35 GMT
#20680
I'm thinking about using the new Sunder skill. What do you guys think will be the optimal subclass for that? I'm leaning Berserker. This will be on Softcore.
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