EPT2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 181
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:22 Timurid wrote: Ajax is piling the pressure on utd atm. yeh quite nice they're playing so well with a crippled team on old trafford. It looks like they're losing it now though. | ||
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On February 24 2012 03:59 daSilvaz wrote: No way in hell spanish league is better than english, not even close. in epl:man city/utd >>>>the rest,the only team thats playing good football is tottenham. in spanish league barca real>>>>>the rest,valencia is playing quite well barca real>>>>city/utd,hence spanish league is better. this season id put italian league on par with epl. the only reason theres a big gap in spanish league is that the two top teams are miles ahead of the rest in eu. put tottenham chelsea arsenal in la liga and theyd be 20 points behind too. | ||
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Mvrio
689 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:02 Tommylew wrote: tottenahm is carried by Adebayor? u really dont watch the premiership.... just for that statment. Bale, Van der vaart among just two.... Harry will deffiantly join England at end of season but Tottenham ar ein such a posiition you will see someone like Mourinho come in and take over... they have the players and the squad now and only missing a big name manager and perhpas a player or two if that, plus they will be in the champions league next season! Arsene Wnger really need to buy otherwise get rid of himand get someoen who will buy... Arsenal have alawys been missing one world class centre backs hes a tool.. Chelsea is going down as they need tor ealise big nameplayers like £50 million on Torres could of bought 5 players to actualyl stregthen the squad oas they need to realise their spine is Terry and lamaprd whoa re not getting any younger... I see AVB going verysoon.. perhpas before end of season... They need someone that ROM wont get involved with.... Apprently he wanted Torres and Ancelotti(At the time) didnt... Mancini will do ok and so will City, if on seperate sides the uefa cup thyis year will be man utd vs man city... Problem was this year was their first champions league together and they will be even stronger nextyear as when youget a gorup together you take time to gel.. Man utd need one holding player and antoher years experience of the youngsters and they will also be ok... Suprised Alex didnt buy one in the xmas but he knows he will be ripped off and well Cleverly is back now!!! Harry should stay with the spurs or at least everyone at white heart would beg him to stay seeing as there current success doesn't seem to drop, if harry can keep Modric away from chelsea (if there still hunting him), and the fat price tag on Bale probably would keep him. I'm 50/50 on bale leaving... someone would pay for him, ManU comes to mind Arsene should have left last transfer the only thing keeping him his job was champions and Milan erased that hope, sold too many players and doing nothing with the money smh... torres was a waste, sturridge turned out better and he was homegrown, their mid like ManU's has no real power and they should work on it, but at least ManU's Defense can hold, Terry is out for 2 months (true?) and Napoli just showed how horrible it is at stamford at the moment. In other news As a fan of any London team West Ham is definitely coming back for next season city will probably win the league keeping Mancini there for at least another year | ||
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haitike
Spain2727 Posts
On February 24 2012 05:49 Timurid wrote: Valencia would be a top team if they never sold their star players like Silva, villa, and mata to help their debt. I feel that Valencia has more potential to be threat next year with their good youth players coming up and clearing up their debt. They can put a dent into teams hopes in the UCL. Also, Athletic has put together a very good team with a very unique team policy of only signing basque players. Hopefully, if they don't get poach by big teams they're going to be a good team in europe. As for England, if arsene decides to spend money hopefully he does Arsenal would be in good shape. He should get rid of dummies like djourou and start ox over theo no brains walcott. Chelsea is going down. Tottenham is just being carried by adebayor and most their players and manager will leave this summer. City is going to be a joke in europe with mancini on top and utd needs some transfer to revive that shit midfield. I think Valencia have done a good transition after finish their debts. Soldado is a beast lastly, and in my opinion he is now better Forward that Villa this last two years (He, llorente and silva shold play in the national team more often). I think that Valencia would do great in the Premier or in the Calcio, but in Spain with Barcelona and Madrid, it is hard to follow them. I dont think first half spanish teams are that bad (althought it is true that second half teams are pettry bad). The three spanish teams (valencia, atheltico and atheltic) are going to pass their UEFA round, and Lazio is 3th in the Calcio. Anyway, I'm Andalusian but im glad about Athletic Bilbao, they are awesome. Did you know that they have a self-imposed handicap since always? They can only have players from this region getting all the players from their own reserve squad or other vasque reserve squads. And with that handicap they have played all the spanish league seasons in the history staying always near the uefa position (with historical 4th position). They have 23 spanish cups, 8 leagues, a pasionate supporters called "the lions" and a mytic stadium "the cathedral" and one of the three best reserve/youth squads from Spain. It is fun because they are 5th and a money-team like Malaga is 9th at that moment  (and they are playing awesome this year with Bielsa)I wish all the spanish teams where like Barcelona, Madrid, Athletic and Osasuna, they are owned by the "associates" with democratic elections for president every 4 years. This way Athletico Madrid could quit that horrible money president that they have (srly, they have players like Kun, Forlan, etc and they did so bad this years). | ||
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haitike
Spain2727 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
ends 2-1... United trough on aggregrate :'( | ||
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daSilvaz
809 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:35 clementdudu wrote: in epl:man city/utd >>>>the rest,the only team thats playing good football is tottenham. in spanish league barca real>>>>>the rest,valencia is playing quite well barca real>>>>city/utd,hence spanish league is better. this season id put italian league on par with epl. the only reason theres a big gap in spanish league is that the two top teams are miles ahead of the rest in eu. put tottenham chelsea arsenal in la liga and theyd be 20 points behind too. However they aren't in the spanish league so my point still stands. | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:14 Malaz wrote: Italy seemed to be in a decline the last couple of years. Inters CL win felt like a fluke and teams like Milan seemed to be way past their prime. Adding their old stadiums and lousy visitors counts things weren't looking to good imo. But this season they have proven me wrong so far. Teams like Napoli and Udinese are playing great and Milan were looking strong so far as well. Actually I always liked Italian football so I'm happy about that. Also I don't know if I would rank Bundesliga or Serie A higher right now, they a pretty even in my opinon. Inter's 2010 champions league a fluke? Really now? | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On February 24 2012 07:08 daSilvaz wrote: However they aren't in the spanish league so my point still stands. no beacuse valencia athletico arent in the epl either  | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On February 24 2012 07:10 DragoonPK wrote: Ajax played real well, but could'nt get that last goal to equalize and go to extra time! Sad. If they had gotten another goal they would've been through ;o. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Aston Villa higher in the Spanish league? I highly doubt that. The level of play in England is pisspoor atm. The only teams that are playing good football are the Manchester teams and Tottenham. And the Manchester teams are actually also playing pretty bad this season. It's the whole league failing is why they're still on top. It's kind of sad considering the money that goes around in the premier league. | ||
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:23 Twisted wrote: I don't get the idea of the Spanish league being weak in the lower teams at all. I think it's grossly overrated and that's mostly because most people just look at results of the big 2 against those teams. Villareal was a good team consistently in the subtop in the past years and getting good results in Europe. In this season they're in the bottom of the table and struggling in every match. Aston Villa higher in the Spanish league? I highly doubt that. The level of play in England is pisspoor atm. The only teams that are playing good football are the Manchester teams and Tottenham. And the Manchester teams are actually also playing pretty bad this season. It's the whole league failing is why they're still on top. It's kind of sad considering the money that goes around in the premier league. I kind of agree with you as well. I think while the top 2 Spanish teams are way above everyone else, the ones below are not as bad as people say they are. Sevillia, Valencia, Atlentico Madrid, and some of the others as well are playing good football levels. I also do think that the EPL is overrated, especially this year. Bundislega is getting really competitive and should definitely get more coverage, and even the Italian league is making a comeback after the effects of the Calcio-poli incident in 2006. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:08 Timurid wrote: You must be delusional to put Serie A infront of La Liga. No point in arguing with you. Yeah right, replace 'delusional' with 'an actual fan of football'. Been watching BBVA and Serie A for ages...you clearly haven't watched Serie A. The tactical side is extremely solid and they have some fantastic players, some great teams. And pound for pound, if you cut out the top 2 teams, Serie A would batter BBVA. And even that's questionable, seeing as AC Milan could actually challenge Barca or RM. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On February 24 2012 06:09 Timurid wrote: I always dismiss Tottenham since i'm an arsenal fan. That explains it, because until the Newcastle game Adebayor hadn't made a contribution since mid-December but we were still flying high, still winning games, still widening that gap in the league between us and Arsenal, and anyone casually dismissing Spurs is either delusional or just doesn't know what they're talking about. Since you're an Arsenal fan I guess it's the former  And Harry might leave in the summer but if you think 'most of [our] players' are just going to opt out of champions league football and a shot at the title then you're dreaming, sorry Gooner but we're the top London team this season and I'd be surprised if even one star player gets sold. You think Modric wants to to go to Chelsea now? He wanted to go for champions league football, Chelsea might not even get that but he's near guaranteed it at the Lane. Bale might go but only for a LOT of money. But hey, if we're going to talk about a club being carried by one striker then I think we all know which North London club to look to... | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On February 24 2012 13:40 sc4k wrote: Yeah right, replace 'delusional' with 'an actual fan of football'. Been watching BBVA and Serie A for ages...you clearly haven't watched Serie A. The tactical side is extremely solid and they have some fantastic players, some great teams. And pound for pound, if you cut out the top 2 teams, Serie A would batter BBVA. And even that's questionable, seeing as AC Milan could actually challenge Barca or RM. Indeed the tactics in Serie A this season have been consistently interesting, with a number of teams going 3 at the back and the variations on 4-3-1-2. The league has finally produced good games consistently. The past few years have seen way too many snoozefests in the lower half of the table. La Liga (-top 2) probably seems better to people because the Spanish style has been so dominant the past few years, thereby people judge a team's quality by traits one associates with Spanish football. If England had won some trophy, people would probably highlight physicality, discipline, and wing play as "positive" attributes for a mid-table team. Granted, Italian teams would never imitate the English lol. But as to AC Milan challenging Barca/RM... no way. Those two have such insanely manicured philosophies and immeasurable talent. When either of them decides the need to play a big game, they are nigh impossible to match. Teams can get shock points against them sure, but it would most definitely be against the run of play. Milan is a good counter-attacking team with Boateng pulling the strings, but the strikers are hit or miss in the creation department. Though I must praise the back line, it is probably the best in Europe. | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On February 24 2012 14:13 The KY wrote: That explains it, because until the Newcastle game Adebayor hadn't made a contribution since mid-December but we were still flying high, still winning games, still widening that gap in the league between us and Arsenal, and anyone casually dismissing Spurs is either delusional or just doesn't know what they're talking about. Since you're an Arsenal fan I guess it's the former And Harry might leave in the summer but if you think 'most of [our] players' are just going to opt out of champions league football and a shot at the title then you're dreaming, sorry Gooner but we're the top London team this season and I'd be surprised if even one star player gets sold. You think Modric wants to to go to Chelsea now? He wanted to go for champions league football, Chelsea might not even get that but he's near guaranteed it at the Lane. Bale might go but only for a LOT of money. But hey, if we're going to talk about a club being carried by one striker then I think we all know which North London club to look to... LOL the spur finally comes out of the cave. The only reason why tottenham is up there is because Arsenal lost 2 star players and didnt buy and top star talent. While chelsea is having internal problems. i have to admit RVP pretty much saved us this season and i'm very happy that he is with us. You're 'Star players' are going to get poach this summer or the next. This season together for the EPL was a wake up call pretty much. The manchester clubs failing in europe and the rioters in 3rd place. If arsene wants to keep his job he will be forced to buy this summer. Tottenham is going to destroyed in europe next season. Plus, you guys can't afford to buy adebayor due to his horrendous wages and no star player will join because your wage system is messed up. If Harry doesn't stay your team is going to be cut up like butter. If you think modric is a star player lol! Anyway, thanks for the nice laugh! User was warned for this post | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
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