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Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 17:52:23
October 15 2011 17:52 GMT
#1061
@Euronyme:
I do not know if you are really interested, but the Welf family was a royal family from the HRE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Welf
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#1062
On October 16 2011 00:51 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 07:32 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:30 beef42 wrote:
[image loading]

u jelly TL?

This is the Death and Taxes mod which is why advisers have too many modifiers.


pretty nice

I just hope you dont get the stupid "your heir is sick" event


Honestly, that guy is never going to rule the country. I am pretty sure that it is impossible to get a monarch with more than 4 in any stat. And if you get a good heir, he will ALWAYS go hunting or get sick. Or your current ruler will live to be 110. Bad rulers are immortal. They are also apparently capable of swimming over the atlantic.

my 7/7/6 ruler had a 3/3/3 heir. I think shit. I get the "a beloved heir dies" event. I gleefully pick the "In the arms of the Maid" option. I got a 3/3/3 heir with weak legitimacy. Awesome.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 15 2011 23:08 GMT
#1063
On October 16 2011 00:51 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 07:32 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:30 beef42 wrote:
[image loading]

u jelly TL?

This is the Death and Taxes mod which is why advisers have too many modifiers.


pretty nice

I just hope you dont get the stupid "your heir is sick" event


Honestly, that guy is never going to rule the country. I am pretty sure that it is impossible to get a monarch with more than 4 in any stat. And if you get a good heir, he will ALWAYS go hunting or get sick. Or your current ruler will live to be 110. Bad rulers are immortal. They are also apparently capable of swimming over the atlantic.


What? Do you mean the stars shown, or their actual value (stat)? It's not the same thing.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 16 2011 00:04 GMT
#1064
I mean that all of my rulers and heirs are inbred idiots, and if one heir defies that rule, he inevitably goes hunting, or falls ill. Like the one 8/8/4 heir i just had, who managed to die at the age of 14 and left me in a 10-year regency council because his dad died just 2 month after him, thus costing me the last 10 years of holy wars. Oh, not to mention that the guy who then managed to get the throne was some inbred noble with the wonderful stats of 4/3/3, and also without any legitimacy. He ruled for about 60 years.

I seriously wonder where they get those guys. At the moment, i am more and more convinced that there is a clan of horribly incompetent vampirs who try to get into royal bloodlines, but are about as capable at ruling as a dead hamster. Also, they are (obviously) immortal.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 16 2011 00:08 GMT
#1065
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 16 2011 00:15 GMT
#1066
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#1067
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.

just bounce back and forth between administrative monarchy and administrative republic its like a 4 stab loss
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
October 16 2011 03:03 GMT
#1068
On October 16 2011 11:47 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.

just bounce back and forth between administrative monarchy and administrative republic its like a 4 stab loss


I like how you talk of a 4 stab loss like it's nothing.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 16 2011 03:06 GMT
#1069
On October 16 2011 12:03 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:47 Caller wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.

just bounce back and forth between administrative monarchy and administrative republic its like a 4 stab loss


I like how you talk of a 4 stab loss like it's nothing.


Depends on the circumstances, with the right buildings/ideas/advisors/sliders, it's definitely possible to gain like one stability every two months. It's also possible with the wrong ones to take years for that same one stability gain.
unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:06:05
October 16 2011 04:03 GMT
#1070
So I just conquered Japan as Ireland, but I cannot annex or make them my vassal. How would I do this? I'm the head of the war on my side, Manchu is the head of the other side. I'm fairly sure that I've taken all of their provinces. And the game keeps spamming me that I've disbanded the Shogunate.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:12:10
October 16 2011 04:10 GMT
#1071
Japan is...complicated, and also tends to be bugged. Usually, you need to talk to the daimyo (Kyoto/Japan), and then can demand provinces from the shoguns too. And if you reduce them a lot and occupy everything, theoretically the shogunat should break making each of the shoguns fight for themselves, but that tends to not work and as a result makes it impossible to annex the last 4-5 provinces of japan without doing some weird stuff.

But if your problem is only how to talk to Japan, you always need to talk to the daimyo in Kyoto, even if you want something from one of the shoguns. You should usually be able to get a seperate peace deal from them, but when i got there they never had any allies because noone liked them. You could also try asking manchu if they are the war leader, they have the power to give you occupied provinces (in a normal war at least, no idea how it works with japan)

If, however, your problem is the bugged thing where you can't annex the last few provinecs, there are some things with spies that might help resolve this, but i am not really an expert. I just got it unbugged once, but i am not really sure how that worked, or if it would work again.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 16 2011 09:02 GMT
#1072
On October 16 2011 12:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:03 Candadar wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:47 Caller wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.

just bounce back and forth between administrative monarchy and administrative republic its like a 4 stab loss


I like how you talk of a 4 stab loss like it's nothing.


Depends on the circumstances, with the right buildings/ideas/advisors/sliders, it's definitely possible to gain like one stability every two months. It's also possible with the wrong ones to take years for that same one stability gain.


Hey man! Wadup babe?

If you play as an OPM (which is boatloads of fun by the way) you get stability in bundles. OPMing is the way of the force ♥
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 16 2011 09:32 GMT
#1073
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.


Noble Republics can have Personal Unions
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 16 2011 09:44 GMT
#1074
On October 16 2011 18:32 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 09:15 Simberto wrote:
On October 16 2011 09:08 turdburgler wrote:
theres an event that gives you a new heir if you have a billion royal marriages, doesnt always save you but its worth keeping in mind. also, just change out of monarchy if you want to avoid councils :D


Well, yes, but sadly, republics can not have personal unions, which are worth having a useless ruler on their own.


Noble Republics can have Personal Unions

while they can have personal unions you can't claim crowns or anything like that. And while I would be perfectly happy with getting random PU's from my royal marriage spam (I got Castille from one of those as Albania, hilarity ensued) sometimes you need to claim crowns in order to get a lot of territory without huge infamy.

As a side note PUs are a pretty broken mechanic, the AI never really fights you over it (although I did have a nice succession war against Prussia over Austria, that was pretty fun)
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 16 2011 14:29 GMT
#1075
the most broken part is inheriting within the hre gives you instant cores on the areas, making it actually an easier way to take over europe than passing the reforms
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#1076
On October 16 2011 23:29 turdburgler wrote:
the most broken part is inheriting within the hre gives you instant cores on the areas, making it actually an easier way to take over europe than passing the reforms


Whenever I enherit (via PU) in the HRE I don't get cores =/
I assume this is only for the enherit event, which honstly has only happened to me once or twice of thousands of hours of gameplay (just hopped of college, and looking for a job. Don't judge me!)

I don't think it's enough of an issue to be 'broken', although for all what I care, they might as well remove the random enheritance.
On the other hand Royal marriages are almost not worth spending diplomats on unless there's a chance of something really great happening.

Does anyone know why everyone's so horny on marriaging Austria, whereas if you play as France, Great Britain or Spain or something, even the countries with 200 relations never send requests T_T

Has anyone tried if this still works if you have a different king than the Habsburgs?
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
October 17 2011 04:09 GMT
#1077
There a way to disable the HRE? I love it and all, but I want to have an experience without it interfering with the politics of all those clustered OPM's.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10716 Posts
October 17 2011 10:10 GMT
#1078
A few question about "colonizing".
So... I started as Holland and at first played a little around with european polticis (vassaled Brabant and Antwerpen... Had to cede Zeeland and Antwerpen to France later but could diplo annex brabant later).

My mainfocus is actually colonising...so...

How do I do this correct?

I landed in NA and conquered the Natives there (all of them).
Then I started to colonise along the boarder to middle America/SA and will take over the natives there...
So far so clear.

Now.. How do I colonise "effectively" the best way?
1: Do I colonise as many provinces as possible as fast as pssoible by keeping colonial maintenace very low (to not go bankrupt) ---> This would lock others out as good/long as possible and get later many cores that allow me to colonise more provinces whiteout sea access?
2: Colonise only a few provinces at once but keep maintenance at 100% to get more self sustaining provinces fast?
3: Should I go for "certain" really good provinces/areas (where?).

Help would be nice.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
October 17 2011 10:24 GMT
#1079
On October 17 2011 19:10 Velr wrote:
A few question about "colonizing".
So... I started as Holland and at first played a little around with european polticis (vassaled Brabant and Antwerpen... Had to cede Zeeland and Antwerpen to France later but could diplo annex brabant later).

My mainfocus is actually colonising...so...

How do I do this correct?

I landed in NA and conquered the Natives there (all of them).
Then I started to colonise along the boarder to middle America/SA and will take over the natives there...
So far so clear.

Now.. How do I colonise "effectively" the best way?
1: Do I colonise as many provinces as possible as fast as pssoible by keeping colonial maintenace very low (to not go bankrupt) ---> This would lock others out as good/long as possible and get later many cores that allow me to colonise more provinces whiteout sea access?
2: Colonise only a few provinces at once but keep maintenance at 100% to get more self sustaining provinces fast?
3: Should I go for "certain" really good provinces/areas (where?).

Help would be nice.


If you conquer all the islands that resides between Europe and America and then keep a small fleet everywhere you will be able to lock your opponents from crossing the Atlantic. I've never done it myself but I've heard of people doing it so it's worth a try
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 11:04:10
October 17 2011 10:58 GMT
#1080
On October 17 2011 19:24 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 19:10 Velr wrote:
A few question about "colonizing".
So... I started as Holland and at first played a little around with european polticis (vassaled Brabant and Antwerpen... Had to cede Zeeland and Antwerpen to France later but could diplo annex brabant later).

My mainfocus is actually colonising...so...

How do I do this correct?

I landed in NA and conquered the Natives there (all of them).
Then I started to colonise along the boarder to middle America/SA and will take over the natives there...
So far so clear.

Now.. How do I colonise "effectively" the best way?
1: Do I colonise as many provinces as possible as fast as pssoible by keeping colonial maintenace very low (to not go bankrupt) ---> This would lock others out as good/long as possible and get later many cores that allow me to colonise more provinces whiteout sea access?
2: Colonise only a few provinces at once but keep maintenance at 100% to get more self sustaining provinces fast?
3: Should I go for "certain" really good provinces/areas (where?).

Help would be nice.


If you conquer all the islands that resides between Europe and America and then keep a small fleet everywhere you will be able to lock your opponents from crossing the Atlantic. I've never done it myself but I've heard of people doing it so it's worth a try


nah it doesnt work that way. The AI will still send ships from Africa over South America up to you.


good areas for colonization are

caribbean islands
Mexiko
Inka
west african coast for slave colonies so you get the 25% more colony income modifier
Indonesia for the big spices money
Brasil can be rewarding too
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