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unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
October 07 2011 16:30 GMT
#1041
Trying out a Ryuku game actually helped me learn a lot about colonization in this game. I always overestimated the natives and figured I needed to get a colonist over instead of an army to get a foothold.

But nope! Followed part of that action report, found the Aztec/Mayans/Zapotec were all weak from war and my 5 stack could get a foothold. Creek were too powerful at the time. Eventually took over the whole peninsula and found the wonders of changing my national focus to troubled areas. I was well on my way in taking out Creek when suddenly Hungary decided to declare war on me, followed by most of Europe .
Elektrobear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
108 Posts
October 12 2011 11:34 GMT
#1042
After restarting my Ryukyu WC game, I've had considerably more success.

[image loading]

Currently in the process of westernizing,which is proving to be pretty tough.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 13 2011 05:57 GMT
#1043
So I'm playing as France with the hardest settings (admittedly still very easy) to slow me down a bit, and I'm doing a bit of a RP run, eventually getting napoleon.
I've got on historical leaders, which I thought meant that I'd go through the history of French monarchs, but nope..
All of a sudden I noticed a fucking Francois von Welf as my first heir. I remembered my first heir dying in an event, but what the..
The weird part is that he has a 'strong claim', so I don't know how it could be a foreigner or a noble as they usually have weak claims O.O
Has anyone experienced something similar, and does anyone know what the flying duck a Von Welf is? Didn't find the godless tribe on google either...

Also I got a second question for all the wise people out there. Will my country tag change from France to Revolutionary France, and will I get a new flag if I let the revolutionary rebels win in the 1700s? I know that's what happens if you jump in just before, but I once tried a console command to change France into a Revolutionary Republic, and I got the event and all the slider changes, but not a new flag qq

Thank you in advance. Love you all ♥
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 13 2011 06:16 GMT
#1044
On October 13 2011 14:57 Euronyme wrote:
So I'm playing as France with the hardest settings (admittedly still very easy) to slow me down a bit, and I'm doing a bit of a RP run, eventually getting napoleon.
I've got on historical leaders, which I thought meant that I'd go through the history of French monarchs, but nope..
All of a sudden I noticed a fucking Francois von Welf as my first heir. I remembered my first heir dying in an event, but what the..
The weird part is that he has a 'strong claim', so I don't know how it could be a foreigner or a noble as they usually have weak claims O.O
Has anyone experienced something similar, and does anyone know what the flying duck a Von Welf is? Didn't find the godless tribe on google either...

Also I got a second question for all the wise people out there. Will my country tag change from France to Revolutionary France, and will I get a new flag if I let the revolutionary rebels win in the 1700s? I know that's what happens if you jump in just before, but I once tried a console command to change France into a Revolutionary Republic, and I got the event and all the slider changes, but not a new flag qq

Thank you in advance. Love you all ♥

lol france
historical leaders is BAD, means you can't hire generals, shits stupid
no idea who that guy is, most likely one of your royal marriages, so it could still be a foreigner (ex: your sister marries some german guy, kid takes on german guy's surname)

as for france, here's the code for the event:
country_event = {

id = 6606
trigger = {
tag = FRA
not = { exists = RFR}
has_country_flag = revolution
government_tech = 53
revolution_target_exists = no
capital_scope = { continent = europe }
num_of_cities = 10
}

mean_time_to_happen = {
months = 24
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = religious_revolution
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = serfdom
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = social_reform
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = deplorable_reign
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = financial_crisis
}
}

title = "EVTNAME6606"
desc = "EVTDESC6606"

option = {
name = "EVTOPTA6606"
serfdom_freesubjects = 10
quality_quantity = -10
land_naval = -10
offensive_defensive = -10
mercantilism_freetrade = -10
innovative_narrowminded = -10
centralization_decentralization = -10
aristocracy_plutocracy = 10
clr_country_flag = revolution
clr_country_flag = religious_revolution
clr_country_flag = serfdom
clr_country_flag = social_reform
clr_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
clr_country_flag = deplorable_reign
clr_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
clr_country_flag = financial_crisis
stability = 6
government = revolutionary_republic
change_tag = RFR
set_revolution_target = RFR
random_country = {
limit = {
tag = RFR
}
country_event = 6608
}
}
}


basically, in order to get the country change, you need to go through the whole process. Simply changing your government won't do anything except pop up any events that are dependent on the government type being a revolutionary republic. Most likely you just got a generic revolution event which does not give you any flag change.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 13 2011 11:07 GMT
#1045
@ Caller
The thing I was the most surprised about was it was super early, and I've played this game a lot and never seen a Welf. Where the fuck did he come from? lol. Pretty sure no country starts out with that

Historical leaders make things harder ^_^
I have to work for every piece of land, especially as I'm the only protestant in Europe apart from Sweden lmao. It's on very hard, and Spain, GB and Austria are allied O.O
Also dude.. Napoleon. I'm gonna do it history style! Napoleon is easely the coolest dude in this campaign.

Am I actually supposed to type in that whole wall of text, or are atleast the modifiers either / or?
I wonder if that's even possible to type in
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
October 13 2011 11:25 GMT
#1046
So, I'm doing a Byzatine Empire Game. Year is 1476 and I just got the natural borders for the Eastern Roman Empire (Greece, Asia Minor, Middle East, Egypt). As I'm moving in to conquer the rest of the Mediterranean, I need some help with an Athens strategy so I can recreate the Alexandrian Empire
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 13 2011 11:27 GMT
#1047
Historical leaders is crap. What it basically does is making Republics and Theocracies overpowered because they dont have to care about their leader dying in battle. So they always have at least one fairly strong General while the rest might have one too but when he dies you are in for a shitstorm
eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
October 13 2011 11:57 GMT
#1048
God i hate HRE. Whats the best way to fuck them up?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10716 Posts
October 13 2011 12:03 GMT
#1049
Declare war and kill them all .
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#1050
On October 13 2011 15:16 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 14:57 Euronyme wrote:
So I'm playing as France with the hardest settings (admittedly still very easy) to slow me down a bit, and I'm doing a bit of a RP run, eventually getting napoleon.
I've got on historical leaders, which I thought meant that I'd go through the history of French monarchs, but nope..
All of a sudden I noticed a fucking Francois von Welf as my first heir. I remembered my first heir dying in an event, but what the..
The weird part is that he has a 'strong claim', so I don't know how it could be a foreigner or a noble as they usually have weak claims O.O
Has anyone experienced something similar, and does anyone know what the flying duck a Von Welf is? Didn't find the godless tribe on google either...

Also I got a second question for all the wise people out there. Will my country tag change from France to Revolutionary France, and will I get a new flag if I let the revolutionary rebels win in the 1700s? I know that's what happens if you jump in just before, but I once tried a console command to change France into a Revolutionary Republic, and I got the event and all the slider changes, but not a new flag qq

Thank you in advance. Love you all ♥

lol france
historical leaders is BAD, means you can't hire generals, shits stupid
no idea who that guy is, most likely one of your royal marriages, so it could still be a foreigner (ex: your sister marries some german guy, kid takes on german guy's surname)

as for france, here's the code for the event:
Show nested quote +
country_event = {

id = 6606
trigger = {
tag = FRA
not = { exists = RFR}
has_country_flag = revolution
government_tech = 53
revolution_target_exists = no
capital_scope = { continent = europe }
num_of_cities = 10
}

mean_time_to_happen = {
months = 24
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = religious_revolution
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = serfdom
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = social_reform
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = deplorable_reign
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = financial_crisis
}
}

title = "EVTNAME6606"
desc = "EVTDESC6606"

option = {
name = "EVTOPTA6606"
serfdom_freesubjects = 10
quality_quantity = -10
land_naval = -10
offensive_defensive = -10
mercantilism_freetrade = -10
innovative_narrowminded = -10
centralization_decentralization = -10
aristocracy_plutocracy = 10
clr_country_flag = revolution
clr_country_flag = religious_revolution
clr_country_flag = serfdom
clr_country_flag = social_reform
clr_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
clr_country_flag = deplorable_reign
clr_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
clr_country_flag = financial_crisis
stability = 6
government = revolutionary_republic
change_tag = RFR
set_revolution_target = RFR
random_country = {
limit = {
tag = RFR
}
country_event = 6608
}
}
}


basically, in order to get the country change, you need to go through the whole process. Simply changing your government won't do anything except pop up any events that are dependent on the government type being a revolutionary republic. Most likely you just got a generic revolution event which does not give you any flag change.


the regular revolution event specifies "NOT FRANCE", you cant have a revolution outside the country changing one, as france.

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Revolutionary_countries
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 13 2011 12:24 GMT
#1051
On October 13 2011 20:57 eqez wrote:
God i hate HRE. Whats the best way to fuck them up?


if you are outside the hre, you need to be either careful to start wars when the emperor is busy, or be big enough to beat him

you the provincial decision to remove a province you capture from the HRE as the bonus's applied to the emperor are based on the size of the HRE
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 13:51:04
October 13 2011 13:49 GMT
#1052
On October 13 2011 21:21 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 15:16 Caller wrote:
On October 13 2011 14:57 Euronyme wrote:
So I'm playing as France with the hardest settings (admittedly still very easy) to slow me down a bit, and I'm doing a bit of a RP run, eventually getting napoleon.
I've got on historical leaders, which I thought meant that I'd go through the history of French monarchs, but nope..
All of a sudden I noticed a fucking Francois von Welf as my first heir. I remembered my first heir dying in an event, but what the..
The weird part is that he has a 'strong claim', so I don't know how it could be a foreigner or a noble as they usually have weak claims O.O
Has anyone experienced something similar, and does anyone know what the flying duck a Von Welf is? Didn't find the godless tribe on google either...

Also I got a second question for all the wise people out there. Will my country tag change from France to Revolutionary France, and will I get a new flag if I let the revolutionary rebels win in the 1700s? I know that's what happens if you jump in just before, but I once tried a console command to change France into a Revolutionary Republic, and I got the event and all the slider changes, but not a new flag qq

Thank you in advance. Love you all ♥

lol france
historical leaders is BAD, means you can't hire generals, shits stupid
no idea who that guy is, most likely one of your royal marriages, so it could still be a foreigner (ex: your sister marries some german guy, kid takes on german guy's surname)

as for france, here's the code for the event:
country_event = {

id = 6606
trigger = {
tag = FRA
not = { exists = RFR}
has_country_flag = revolution
government_tech = 53
revolution_target_exists = no
capital_scope = { continent = europe }
num_of_cities = 10
}

mean_time_to_happen = {
months = 24
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = religious_revolution
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = serfdom
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = social_reform
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = deplorable_reign
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.9
has_country_flag = financial_crisis
}
}

title = "EVTNAME6606"
desc = "EVTDESC6606"

option = {
name = "EVTOPTA6606"
serfdom_freesubjects = 10
quality_quantity = -10
land_naval = -10
offensive_defensive = -10
mercantilism_freetrade = -10
innovative_narrowminded = -10
centralization_decentralization = -10
aristocracy_plutocracy = 10
clr_country_flag = revolution
clr_country_flag = religious_revolution
clr_country_flag = serfdom
clr_country_flag = social_reform
clr_country_flag = royal_bureaucracy
clr_country_flag = deplorable_reign
clr_country_flag = road_to_bankruptcy
clr_country_flag = financial_crisis
stability = 6
government = revolutionary_republic
change_tag = RFR
set_revolution_target = RFR
random_country = {
limit = {
tag = RFR
}
country_event = 6608
}
}
}


basically, in order to get the country change, you need to go through the whole process. Simply changing your government won't do anything except pop up any events that are dependent on the government type being a revolutionary republic. Most likely you just got a generic revolution event which does not give you any flag change.


the regular revolution event specifies "NOT FRANCE", you cant have a revolution outside the country changing one, as france.

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Revolutionary_countries


That wasn't what we were talking about. Basically what I'm getting at is a way of artificially making a French revolution before 1789 as that's basically where the game ends. I want to go revolution 100-150 years earlier if possible.

I guess the government tech requirement is the only real bottleneck to making it possible.
I just wanna do it for fun. Basically do the French conquest, but have a little more time, as those 50 years I have pass on pretty quickly.
An alternative would be if anyone know of a mod that would increase the game time?
I've tried looking for it, but havn't really found anything for DW.

God I hate 1820.

Edit: What did you mean by 'revolution outside the country'.. That doesn't make any bit of sence to me >.O
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 14 2011 01:07 GMT
#1053
i meant you cant do a revolution that isnt the revolutionary france one, doesnt matter anyway.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?470558-No-Time-Limit-Mod
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 14 2011 08:55 GMT
#1054
On October 14 2011 10:07 turdburgler wrote:
i meant you cant do a revolution that isnt the revolutionary france one, doesnt matter anyway.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?470558-No-Time-Limit-Mod


I made a console command to initiate the revolution, and I played as France. The country didn't change to revolutionary France though.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 11:30:52
October 14 2011 11:30 GMT
#1055
[image loading]

u jelly TL?

This is the Death and Taxes mod which is why advisers have too many modifiers.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 14 2011 21:44 GMT
#1056
in b4 your heir dies
as for me, i managed to pu portugal, aragon, milan, austria, and bohemia. o/
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 14 2011 22:32 GMT
#1057
On October 14 2011 20:30 beef42 wrote:
[image loading]

u jelly TL?

This is the Death and Taxes mod which is why advisers have too many modifiers.


pretty nice

I just hope you dont get the stupid "your heir is sick" event
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 15 2011 13:56 GMT
#1058
A pretty fun thing to do is to get hold of some + prestige things (conquer Jerusalem, Mecca and Rome as protestant for instance), alternatively just being the emperor of the HRE (or even better - both).
Then you expand your influence on every state you possibly can until you've got 30 or so.
I got spammed by everyone and their mother about opening my market, and lot's of countries I hadn't even discovered yet (Ming among them) wanted alliances. Your relations will get to 100 really quickly with everyone, unless you have alot of infamy ofcourse.
You can form alliances with countries you have -200 relations to, and it's super easy to vassilize countries at or smaller than 4 provinces.

It's probably a legit strategy tbh. Get the three holy places and a prestige advisor, expand influence on everyone, and then start vassilizing HRE electors and members. This is ofcourse assuming you have a decently large country to begin with.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 15 2011 14:04 GMT
#1059
if you want large amounts of prestige just take a random province in a muslim part of the world, mecca and stuff work well for this for reasons you already mentioned. then just war with them constantly, after 1500 you are so far ahead in technology your army will never lose, you can take money and large amounts of prestige constantly and it keeps your army tradition high
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 15 2011 15:51 GMT
#1060
On October 15 2011 07:32 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 20:30 beef42 wrote:
[image loading]

u jelly TL?

This is the Death and Taxes mod which is why advisers have too many modifiers.


pretty nice

I just hope you dont get the stupid "your heir is sick" event


Honestly, that guy is never going to rule the country. I am pretty sure that it is impossible to get a monarch with more than 4 in any stat. And if you get a good heir, he will ALWAYS go hunting or get sick. Or your current ruler will live to be 110. Bad rulers are immortal. They are also apparently capable of swimming over the atlantic.
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