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BillyHardcore
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark104 Posts
August 15 2011 09:49 GMT
#841
I doubt this game you're describing, KtheZ, is going to continue, I've heard of a mysterious disappearance of the savegame :O

On another note, are your PvP cravings subsiding after such a glorious battle, or did you just reach a point of no return?
One does not simply walk into maraudor
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:02:12
August 15 2011 09:58 GMT
#842
I'd love to play some multiplayer again. I got to pwn some europeans with Ottomans after all
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
August 15 2011 10:03 GMT
#843
Hm, I would love to play too, even though I'm still a newbie and probably don't know about a lot of things.
BillyHardcore
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark104 Posts
August 15 2011 10:21 GMT
#844
Well, I'd suggest either joining the teamspeak server or Hamachi server.
There's also forums for organized games on regular days etc.

PM me for server information
One does not simply walk into maraudor
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 10:42:08
August 15 2011 10:22 GMT
#845
On August 15 2011 05:07 fush wrote:
got a question for you all: so i'm playing as korea right now, and trying to switch into a noble republic. however, i've gotten gov 10, and stayed as a despotic monarchy. the noble republic option shows up, but is greyed out saying that the change isn't possible. is there any reason why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You have to switch back to Feudal Monarchy first iirc (which sucks due to the big stability hit). I didn't delve too deep into government trees (if there are more prerequisites for other types) since I usually switch to Administrative Monarchy asap and/or then at Government Tech level 27 (iirc) to Absolute Monarchy.

Ok I've found this on paradox wiki: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government
there's a tree for all government types: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/eu3wiki_images/b/b3/GovernementsHTTT41b.png
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 11:21:29
August 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#846
Well, I just installed Hamachi and joined.

I can play...well, right now or some time later. Haven't tested the multiplayer yet, so I don't know how it works.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 15 2011 11:09 GMT
#847
On August 15 2011 19:21 BillyHardcore wrote:
Well, I'd suggest either joining the teamspeak server or Hamachi server.
There's also forums for organized games on regular days etc.

PM me for server information


well I am in the hamachi TL networks just need a time when you guys play so I can come online then
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10717 Posts
August 15 2011 12:38 GMT
#848
Is there some tutorial for hamachi somewhere? I never used it but would be interested .
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
August 15 2011 12:53 GMT
#849
On August 15 2011 05:07 fush wrote:
got a question for you all: so i'm playing as korea right now, and trying to switch into a noble republic. however, i've gotten gov 10, and stayed as a despotic monarchy. the noble republic option shows up, but is greyed out saying that the change isn't possible. is there any reason why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What is your cent/decent score?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
August 15 2011 12:59 GMT
#850
On August 15 2011 21:38 Velr wrote:
Is there some tutorial for hamachi somewhere? I never used it but would be interested .

First time using it as well but it's not complicated at all. Just install it, open, join network(type in name and password) and you are done.
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 15 2011 13:59 GMT
#851
On August 15 2011 19:22 revoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:07 fush wrote:
got a question for you all: so i'm playing as korea right now, and trying to switch into a noble republic. however, i've gotten gov 10, and stayed as a despotic monarchy. the noble republic option shows up, but is greyed out saying that the change isn't possible. is there any reason why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You have to switch back to Feudal Monarchy first iirc (which sucks due to the big stability hit). I didn't delve too deep into government trees (if there are more prerequisites for other types) since I usually switch to Administrative Monarchy asap and/or then at Government Tech level 27 (iirc) to Absolute Monarchy.

Ok I've found this on paradox wiki: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government
there's a tree for all government types: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/eu3wiki_images/b/b3/GovernementsHTTT41b.png


according to the tree, can't go into noble repub through feudal monarchy - you'd have to be a despotic monarchy. my cent/decent was at -4 at the time i believe.

but i've managed to change it. not sure if this was the actual cause - but my ruler had been in power over 10 years at the time, and it simply didn't let me change. however, the second he died (about 20 more painful years of waiting), i checked again and i was able to change into noble repub. perhaps it has something to do with not being able to dislodge established rulers?

Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 16:33:20
August 15 2011 16:10 GMT
#852
God damn it.. Found a bug =(
I was playing as Burgundy, and got the personal union CB with pommerania, and I managed to beat them fairly easely, even though Bohemia with vassals joined in the fight against me.
Once I got all of Pommerania I noticed that they were already in a personal union with Bohemia (fml) so I continue anyway just cuz I might get something out of it, and if not - atleast I'm weakening the strong opponents further, as I was clearly winning.
When I beat Bohemia I got the personal union peace option with them O_O I read it through and it said that they'd be in a personal union under me.
Guess what happened? Nothing.. It was just a white peace.


Edit: Is there a way to change the colour coding of countries? Playing like Bohemia seems fun as I enjoy mainland expanding, but I can't stand the diarrhea colour
Imagine all of Europe covered by that shit.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 17:40:22
August 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#853
Can anyone explain to me a little more about Personal Unions? More specifically:

1) How do I create one?
2) What factors contribute to success of the Integrate diplomatic option? Everytime I try, it's just "Impossible."
3) Sometimes, you just inherit countries. How can I make this happen/more likely to happen?
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
August 15 2011 18:01 GMT
#854
Read this: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Personal_union
It explains a lot about PUs (Esp #2/#3).

My take on why they happen (aka #1): I believe it occurs when you have a royal marraige with another country and their leader passes away (possibly without an heir? Maybe with a weak heir?). Maybe someone with more experience can step in an correct anything I got wrong.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
August 15 2011 18:38 GMT
#855
On August 15 2011 16:11 Velr wrote:
I'm kinda pissed at this game now..

Switzerland (me) and my good friend Milan together went to war (on my initiative) against Naples and the Papal State... Now all was fine and dandy (well Milan took most of Neaples even tho I did most of the fighting but I got all of the Papal states and also 2 provinces of Naples).
So, for some reason Savoy/Ferrastra/Provence (+ som REAL minors) were being retards and joined the war (whiteout a "dire" reason to do so", there was no alliance or anything... I thinkt hey just did not like Milan becoming big...).
The war was annoying (Provence had like nothing but for sure was a pain in the ass allways attacking my cores while the papal state was attacking Roma and all my army being caught up taking 4 provinces at once :D... And some other random Country I have no clue why it was involved "dropped" me all over...). The only one that really fought back was Ferra (black/whiet flag one) but after that one was broken stuff went good, I annexed all of savoy and ferra (well, Milan also grabbend 1-2 provinces of Ferra).

So I was happy, I even could bring my inflation back down... Everything looked really, really good. Not even Austria (which entered the war on my side VERY late and VERY pointlessly) or someone else was pissed at me.

So what happens:
The Holy Roman Asshole wants you to give province X to Austria --> I'm all like: NO.
The Holy Roman Asshole wants yo to give province Y to Austria --> I'm all like: Hell no.
Repeat...

Milan no longer wants to be my buddy now...
Revolts spawn... My income goes to shit... My inflation rises... WHAG

Fuck this game (or at least the Emperor).

Btw: Is it random if i belong to the HRE as Switzerland? Sometimes i can leave the Empire immediatly/don't seem to be in it at all, sometimes like "never/i have to do serious insulting" to be able to leave... Which is kinda bad because the Emperor tends to be a dick and i myself can't become emperor due to not being a Monarchy..



Btw: I played EU3 whiteout the new Addon earlyer so i had no Magistrates so that was why i couldn't get high level Advisors... it's way easyer to play now :D.


Heh. War in the HRE is always annoying. That's why it's a relatively stable construct, even with dozens of different nations. There's a way to deal with this though- all HRE provinces have the option (local decision) to "abandon the HRE" for 1 magistrate. Vassalizing usually works better (if you actually want to become emperor).
11 years and counting- TL #680
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
August 15 2011 19:27 GMT
#856
On August 16 2011 02:35 beef42 wrote:
Can anyone explain to me a little more about Personal Unions? More specifically:

1) How do I create one?
2) What factors contribute to success of the Integrate diplomatic option? Everytime I try, it's just "Impossible."
3) Sometimes, you just inherit countries. How can I make this happen/more likely to happen?


1. Either randomly with someone you've got a royal marriage with or you can look at the little crown icon on the centre top of the screen and read which countries have a weak claim, royal marriage them and press 'claim throne' on the bottom of the diplomatic list.
From then on you get a casus beli against them, and you basically force vasslize them. The difference from being a vassal is that they are released if your king dies and you have a: negative prestige, negative diplomatic relationship or whatever it's called with the country.
They will also spam insults if they have a stronger army than you do.

2. There are different factors, but there's a percentage every time your king dies. If it's a 'large' nation, such as france for instance - there's a Significantly smaller chance of enheriting them.
When you enherit you basically annex them automatically and without penalty. You can allso force this to happen through the integrate button, but they might decline, and you get badboy for it.

3: The insta enherit thing is completely random afaik. There's a super super small chance every time a king dies with which you have a royal marriage. You see a little list of the heir, and different other possible heirs when you hover over their king's name. It's basically if both the king and the heir dies afaik, or if the heir has a very weak claim (such as if you fuck the maid instead of get a new heir in that event for instance). Then they just pick one of the royal marriage countries I think.
Have alot of royal marriages - and that'll atleast increase the chance. It's still very unlikely to happen. Nowadays I personally usually keep my royal marriages to a minimum (as they recieve a -100 hit in relations when you claim throne) and just keep on forcing personal unions and keep a watchful eye on the weak heir list
After what I read from their forum there's appearantly not much public information of percentage chances etc, but heck who cares.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
August 15 2011 21:34 GMT
#857
On August 15 2011 22:59 fush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:22 revoN wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:07 fush wrote:
got a question for you all: so i'm playing as korea right now, and trying to switch into a noble republic. however, i've gotten gov 10, and stayed as a despotic monarchy. the noble republic option shows up, but is greyed out saying that the change isn't possible. is there any reason why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You have to switch back to Feudal Monarchy first iirc (which sucks due to the big stability hit). I didn't delve too deep into government trees (if there are more prerequisites for other types) since I usually switch to Administrative Monarchy asap and/or then at Government Tech level 27 (iirc) to Absolute Monarchy.

Ok I've found this on paradox wiki: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government
there's a tree for all government types: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/eu3wiki_images/b/b3/GovernementsHTTT41b.png


according to the tree, can't go into noble repub through feudal monarchy - you'd have to be a despotic monarchy. my cent/decent was at -4 at the time i believe.

but i've managed to change it. not sure if this was the actual cause - but my ruler had been in power over 10 years at the time, and it simply didn't let me change. however, the second he died (about 20 more painful years of waiting), i checked again and i was able to change into noble repub. perhaps it has something to do with not being able to dislodge established rulers?



Did you happen to be leading any PU's at the time? You can't switch to a republic if you're leading one.
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 16 2011 05:08 GMT
#858
On August 16 2011 06:34 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 22:59 fush wrote:
On August 15 2011 19:22 revoN wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:07 fush wrote:
got a question for you all: so i'm playing as korea right now, and trying to switch into a noble republic. however, i've gotten gov 10, and stayed as a despotic monarchy. the noble republic option shows up, but is greyed out saying that the change isn't possible. is there any reason why?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You have to switch back to Feudal Monarchy first iirc (which sucks due to the big stability hit). I didn't delve too deep into government trees (if there are more prerequisites for other types) since I usually switch to Administrative Monarchy asap and/or then at Government Tech level 27 (iirc) to Absolute Monarchy.

Ok I've found this on paradox wiki: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government
there's a tree for all government types: http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/eu3wiki_images/b/b3/GovernementsHTTT41b.png


according to the tree, can't go into noble repub through feudal monarchy - you'd have to be a despotic monarchy. my cent/decent was at -4 at the time i believe.

but i've managed to change it. not sure if this was the actual cause - but my ruler had been in power over 10 years at the time, and it simply didn't let me change. however, the second he died (about 20 more painful years of waiting), i checked again and i was able to change into noble repub. perhaps it has something to do with not being able to dislodge established rulers?



Did you happen to be leading any PU's at the time? You can't switch to a republic if you're leading one.


argh, of course! that must have been it - thanks!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 07:32:28
August 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#859
On August 16 2011 03:38 Monsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 16:11 Velr wrote:
I'm kinda pissed at this game now..

Switzerland (me) and my good friend Milan together went to war (on my initiative) against Naples and the Papal State... Now all was fine and dandy (well Milan took most of Neaples even tho I did most of the fighting but I got all of the Papal states and also 2 provinces of Naples).
So, for some reason Savoy/Ferrastra/Provence (+ som REAL minors) were being retards and joined the war (whiteout a "dire" reason to do so", there was no alliance or anything... I thinkt hey just did not like Milan becoming big...).
The war was annoying (Provence had like nothing but for sure was a pain in the ass allways attacking my cores while the papal state was attacking Roma and all my army being caught up taking 4 provinces at once :D... And some other random Country I have no clue why it was involved "dropped" me all over...). The only one that really fought back was Ferra (black/whiet flag one) but after that one was broken stuff went good, I annexed all of savoy and ferra (well, Milan also grabbend 1-2 provinces of Ferra).

So I was happy, I even could bring my inflation back down... Everything looked really, really good. Not even Austria (which entered the war on my side VERY late and VERY pointlessly) or someone else was pissed at me.

So what happens:
The Holy Roman Asshole wants you to give province X to Austria --> I'm all like: NO.
The Holy Roman Asshole wants yo to give province Y to Austria --> I'm all like: Hell no.
Repeat...

Milan no longer wants to be my buddy now...
Revolts spawn... My income goes to shit... My inflation rises... WHAG

Fuck this game (or at least the Emperor).

Btw: Is it random if i belong to the HRE as Switzerland? Sometimes i can leave the Empire immediatly/don't seem to be in it at all, sometimes like "never/i have to do serious insulting" to be able to leave... Which is kinda bad because the Emperor tends to be a dick and i myself can't become emperor due to not being a Monarchy..



Btw: I played EU3 whiteout the new Addon earlyer so i had no Magistrates so that was why i couldn't get high level Advisors... it's way easyer to play now :D.


Heh. War in the HRE is always annoying. That's why it's a relatively stable construct, even with dozens of different nations. There's a way to deal with this though- all HRE provinces have the option (local decision) to "abandon the HRE" for 1 magistrate. Vassalizing usually works better (if you actually want to become emperor).


The problem is... It's in my head into playing Switzerland until i achieve World domination at least once :p.
Switzerland is no Monarchy or any of that sort, vassilination isn't possible and rulign the HRE whiteout a Monarch is also out of the question ...

But yes, i found how i can leave the HRE... I played "Vanilla" EU3 to long, stuff works different there (or I did not find it there, at least there are no Magistrates)...

I think I kinda "got" this game now, except for one thing:
Infamy? Is it just a "pacemaker" so you don't grow too big to fast or is there actually anything "interesting" about it?

My strife for Glory in the game yesterday ended like this:
I owned all of Lorraine, Baden and 2 provinces of Naples. I was stable again, everything went right, my Inflation was at 0.0 and I could Mint serious money when needed whiteout getting any Inflation from it.


So.... I got kinda bored (Burgundy to the west was too big, Austria to the east was to big but at least Bohemia was to caught up with it's own wars to be of any concern.
So I decided to finish of Naples and annex it's capitol. This went fast and good but then:
Milan opened war with me, Genua came to my help and kinda killed Milan on it's own. To my north ton of smaller countries attacked me. After a few years I sent all of them home and made white peace... Only Milan was left over (I wanted a cookie) and I took one province (SEA ACCESS!) of it.
Well, all was fine and dandy.. I got my province with sea access... Genua looked stronger than ever (my only true ally, because they don't go into retarded wars and actually help ) and I was just a little worried about my infamie..

Then:
Austria declared war on you... I could deliver a fight to Austria alone, I would probably lose still but they at least woul have to pay. BUT, guess who his ally is? Yeah, France (and tons of small countries)... I lost 2 provinces and had to give Baden and Lorraines independence back.
Well.. No problem, I can take them again later (spawn revolt or something) and I still got 4 provinces with Sea access.. A strong (Trade)economy and nearly 20k manpower to get the army going again....

THEN:
Burgundy declared war... And ripped the shit out of the rest of me and took another 2-3 provinces. Now i lost like 6 provinces, wasn't stable at all and walking armies from Switzerland to Naples due to revolts was annoying to say the least (and the revolts where serious -.-).

T H E N:
I went to bed... INFAMY = bad :D.

I so wish I would have saved before attacking Naples .


Questions:
Infamy: Is it really only a pacemaker or do I not "get" something about it? It seems to overwrite everything, good standings with a country does not seem to matter after a certain point (~2X infamy). The Wiki seems to say this...

"Sphere of Influence": What does this do? It shows up when I wanted to attack certain countries and I could "get it" on some smaller countries myself... But what for is it? (NVM found it in the wiki).


BTW: Not being able to get diplomatic Vassals sucks... Democracy sucks!
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 09:41:57
August 16 2011 09:41 GMT
#860
Infamy is basically a pacemaker just like you said. When you get over your infamy limit everybody gets a CB on you for being a warmongerer and when you infamy is high you have no chance of trading outside of your own trade centers

I am not sure what type of democracy Swiss has but with Noble Republic you can still vassalize people
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