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On June 24 2011 12:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Anyone who complains about the new weapons were probably too bad to adjust to the new weapons. I still pubstomp with vanilla loadouts (I even run vanilla spy, it's more effective than DR spy at higher skill levels) and top tier players prefer vanilla weapons.
Well, some stuff like Equalizer is a straight upgrade. Other stuff like the wrangler is just ridiculously overpowered.
Vanilla is just the most balanced and rewarding and is a way more clean experience, that's why its played in the competitive scene.
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Most of the unlockables are really bad anyway.
Maybe, MAYBE the scout drink is as good as the pistol.
MAYBE the kirtz is as good as medigun
but the rest of the weapons are objectively worse than the originals.
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On June 24 2011 13:03 h3r1n6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 12:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Anyone who complains about the new weapons were probably too bad to adjust to the new weapons. I still pubstomp with vanilla loadouts (I even run vanilla spy, it's more effective than DR spy at higher skill levels) and top tier players prefer vanilla weapons. Well, some stuff like Equalizer is a straight upgrade. Other stuff like the wrangler is just ridiculously overpowered. Vanilla is just the most balanced and rewarding and is a way more clean experience, that's why its played in the competitive scene.
Wrangler engineers are a spy's wet dream. If the engineer's incompetent at tracking, scouts can take them out pretty easily too.
I still run normal shovel because I'm a safe player and I stay above 100 hp anyway.
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United States4126 Posts
I was thinking about buying this last week. Great timing 
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Proving once again that Valve is one of the best in the biz. Been playing TF2 since beta, incredible game. TFC was incredible as well <3
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On June 24 2011 13:06 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 13:03 h3r1n6 wrote:On June 24 2011 12:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Anyone who complains about the new weapons were probably too bad to adjust to the new weapons. I still pubstomp with vanilla loadouts (I even run vanilla spy, it's more effective than DR spy at higher skill levels) and top tier players prefer vanilla weapons. Well, some stuff like Equalizer is a straight upgrade. Other stuff like the wrangler is just ridiculously overpowered. Vanilla is just the most balanced and rewarding and is a way more clean experience, that's why its played in the competitive scene. Wrangler engineers are a spy's wet dream. If the engineer's incompetent at tracking, scouts can take them out pretty easily too. I still run normal shovel because I'm a safe player and I stay above 100 hp anyway.
true, also the sentry cant be repair while shooting so stuff like demo or soilder just take sentires out in 2 shot.
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Time to play spy again since there will be so many new players that don't spy check.
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Are they doing anything to reimburse people who have bought it in the past?
Played it in one weekend, but kept dying so gave up. Will try again.
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United States153 Posts
People who bought the game before today get a special hat.
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And privileges that the free players don't have.
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On June 24 2011 13:06 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 13:03 h3r1n6 wrote:On June 24 2011 12:04 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Anyone who complains about the new weapons were probably too bad to adjust to the new weapons. I still pubstomp with vanilla loadouts (I even run vanilla spy, it's more effective than DR spy at higher skill levels) and top tier players prefer vanilla weapons. Well, some stuff like Equalizer is a straight upgrade. Other stuff like the wrangler is just ridiculously overpowered. Vanilla is just the most balanced and rewarding and is a way more clean experience, that's why its played in the competitive scene. Wrangler engineers are a spy's wet dream. If the engineer's incompetent at tracking, scouts can take them out pretty easily too. I still run normal shovel because I'm a safe player and I stay above 100 hp anyway.
The wrangler allows a sentry to become an almost impossible to kill defense juggernaut. If the engineer is any competent, he will not get backstabbed or killed by a scout. If the team only plays a little bit for the sentry, it requires a ridiculous amount of effort to get it down. That's why the wrangler is one of the things that absolutely has to be banned in 6vs6. Also, the wrangler just replaces the pistol, which an Engineer doesn't really use much anyway.
When our team played in ETF2L's highlander cup, the wrangled sentry is pretty much what the entire defense is based around. Makes Badwater first point for example stupidly hard to attack.
Well, I run shovel too, equalizer is still a straight upgrade. Plus a soldier running equalizer to mid allows you to have both sollies faster, at more HP and/or more reliably to the middle fight than when both do the jumps.
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thanks for the heads up going to download now
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I swear, the medic is TLO.
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Wow! This is so awesome! Was just contemplating buying this today.
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All the servers I normally play on are full. Awesome...
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On June 24 2011 13:14 meep wrote:Time to play spy again since there will be so many new players that don't spy check.
YEEEEEEEES.
I think I have more playtime on Spy than all the other classes combined, and then some.
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On June 24 2011 12:56 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +It's pretty damn fun, hopefully other companies will get the idea to make a quality product FIRST, before adding microtransactions to grab money. (Blizzard failed on the first part for SC2/BNET0.2) Sorry, I don't understand? They haven't added in microtransactions yet, so they didn't fail anything in that respect.
They have.
On June 24 2011 12:34 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 10:54 Marou wrote:
I am so sad they didnt made a mac client for this game, i loved team fortress classic back in the days...conc jump all the way pretty sure steam+tf2 works on mac
They did.
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I am so bad at this game! Any pointers for those starting out?
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On June 24 2011 11:42 Aurra wrote:If only TF2 had TFC gameplay. 
Try downloading TF Forever it a free mod that basically is TFC with HL2 graphics.
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