EPTOne of the dumbest things in SF4 is seeing someone eat a reversal because their execution wasn't good enough due to misplinking. It doesn't feel good for the player who dropped the combo because they've done it a thousand times before. It doesn't feel good for the player doing the reversal because they feel they lucked out. I think the input buffer change is a welcome one because game results are going to come down to intended decisions more often than they already do (which is a lot), impacting the game positively overall.
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
One of the dumbest things in SF4 is seeing someone eat a reversal because their execution wasn't good enough due to misplinking. It doesn't feel good for the player who dropped the combo because they've done it a thousand times before. It doesn't feel good for the player doing the reversal because they feel they lucked out. I think the input buffer change is a welcome one because game results are going to come down to intended decisions more often than they already do (which is a lot), impacting the game positively overall. | ||
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Arolis
United States496 Posts
Persona 4 Arena has a 5 frame buffer and there are still some differences in online and offline play. It helps but it's still there. Honestly, it kinda feels like the Street Fighter crowd is the only one that holds up 1 frame links on a pedestal. It won't make it any less competitive if they aren't in the game. | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
1f links falls under execution, and if you main any execution-heavy characters (such as E.Ryu) you need a vibrant local scene to improve under zero lag/tournament conditions. Japan's biggest advantage is that most of the best players are situated right in Tokyo (with exceptions such as Pugera’s Ibuki), so they get a lot of high level practice that’s easily accessible. Whereas big places like the states we have to send our players coast to coast just to compete. And contrary to Kazunoko’s answer to Mike Ross’s question at the end of CEO 2015, I don’t think NA/EU has caught up to Japan just yet. The Japanese are pretty good at lying as to not hurt anybody’s feelings, as anyone who watches Iron Chef can attest to (celebrity sponsors of challengers will always say outright their challenger will beat the Iron Chef, even though they stand no fuking chance in hell). With this change, online practice will more likely translate into tournament results (Edit: Probably not as there are other factors involved). Maybe we'll see more NA and EU players step up their game just from the sheer number of players. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
The kinds of players who go to tournaments and local gatherings, also tend to be the people who are more dedicated to the game in general. They tend to be better players, but that has nothing to do with online vs offline practice. If local scene is essential for becoming a top player, then how do you explain Infiltration/Gamerbee/Xian/etc.? There are many examples of online players who also do well offline. That includes most top players (Daigo, Sako, Poongko, Infiltration, etc.) and many former online-only players who did well in tournaments (Latif, Wolfkrone, etc.) | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
So yea I'd probably change my last statement about how online practice -> tourney results, it probably won't change things much. I've forgotten how online matches reward gimmicky play and how they are set up, adaptations are rarely tested. Dedication is still the #1 and most important factor. | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
More importantly.... EVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO anyone going that plays sf4 / marvel / kof / gg xrd / tekken / 1v1 Luna or just wanna shoot the shit with more TLers hit me up :D :D :D I know a few folks who'll be there but its always fun to meet more. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
TL Fighting!! give Nuckledu our energy, hope he has the most inspired day1 and turns it into a great run | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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Duka08
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On July 16 2015 13:01 Shiragaku wrote: Wow, that Azusa council meeting was so rage inducing. Stubbornness and old people ruining e-sports I caught the first one and missed this one, but yeah local government is pretty frustrating. No matter how ideal the venue is, Watts needs to move on and find a new spot. Not only will it never work out here but fuck that place, get out regardless. Local govt so corrupt and stupid lol, this example just hits a little closer to home since it's about a subject we care about. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/3dgfw8/azusa_4head_vs_watson_noarcade_the_salty_runback/ct4wl80 In case anyone wants to read up on how the council meeting went. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
July 17, 2015 | • Website: http://evo.shoryuken.com • Schedule: Link | Image • Pool overview: Link • Brackets: Link • Top 32: TBD • Streams: • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo2 This is it. Evolution 2015, the premiere fighting game tournament - the Superbowl of fighting games - is happening this weekend. Every year, Evo is the most massive and exciting fighting game tournament. While this year it has had competition in CEO 2015 and the upcoming Capcom Cup Finals next winter, Evolution is still the supreme event -- and the one with the greatest pedigree. But I don't need to tell you that. I don't need to tell you anything. I just need to tell you when it's happening. Notable entrants:
Schedule for USF4 at Evolution 2015 is as follows: Friday 17th of July • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Pools 08:00 PDT - 20:00 PDT | • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Semifinals 20:00 PDT | • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo2 Both channels simultaneously Saturday 18th of July Rest day, no USF4 content -- watch Smash instead Sunday 19th of July • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Finals 18:30 PDT | • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 News and updates will be added to this post as details become available. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
On a side note, it's funny as a melee player that the entire game is basically spamming 1f links from pretty much a ton of combos to just basic moving around But because everyone pretty much exclusively plays offline people just get good/used to it and suddenly it's all handy dandy and normal | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
On July 16 2015 23:06 Aylear wrote: Evolution 2015 July 17, 2015 | • Website: http://evo.shoryuken.com • Schedule: Link | Image • Pool overview: Link • Brackets: Link • Top 32: TBD • Streams: • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo2 This is it. Evolution 2015, the premiere fighting game tournament - the Superbowl of fighting games - is happening this weekend. Every year, Evo is the most massive and exciting fighting game tournament. While this year it has had competition in CEO 2015 and the upcoming Capcom Cup Finals next winter, Evolution is still the supreme event -- and the one with the greatest pedigree. But I don't need to tell you that. I don't need to tell you anything. I just need to tell you when it's happening. Notable entrants:
Schedule for USF4 at Evolution 2015 is as follows: Friday 17th of July • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Pools 08:00 PDT - 20:00 PDT | • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Semifinals 20:00 PDT | • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo2 Both channels simultaneously Saturday 18th of July Rest day, no USF4 content -- watch Smash instead Sunday 19th of July • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Finals 18:30 PDT | • http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1 News and updates will be added to this post as details become available. I hope all of the streams will be listed on TL, not just smash stream. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On July 16 2015 13:42 rebdomine wrote: Someone on r/kappa pretty much LR'd it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/3dgfw8/azusa_4head_vs_watson_noarcade_the_salty_runback/ct4wl80 In case anyone wants to read up on how the council meeting went. Blue Shirt Guy aka. Mr. Lee was the gawd. Wasn't enough sadly.... | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
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