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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#1101
i fail a lot with the trials, even the most simple looking combos.

for example dhalsim lvl 10. h punch into focus attack. i just cant connect this to a combo. the focus attack starts waaay after the punch. when do i have to start pressing the buttons?
ATLzac
Profile Joined February 2011
United States51 Posts
July 09 2011 00:06 GMT
#1102
does any1 know this game supports ps3 controller? i use that program to use it with ggpo, will it work with this
Peace.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 09 2011 00:10 GMT
#1103
On July 09 2011 09:04 Corvi wrote:
i fail a lot with the trials, even the most simple looking combos.

for example dhalsim lvl 10. h punch into focus attack. i just cant connect this to a combo. the focus attack starts waaay after the punch. when do i have to start pressing the buttons?


Dhalsim has short range command versions of all of his normals if you hold Back. So in that trial's case, try B+HP xx Focus attack.
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Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
July 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#1104
Is there an official TL steam group or something? I ended up getting the game on steam and am curious what the best way to link up to play/practice with other TL steam players is. Also I suck...alot. Can't get past an average of level 10 with all the characters I've tried in trials.
"the metagame has really evolved to the point where the best chance to win the metagame is to game the metagame" -Bags
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:16:38
July 09 2011 01:13 GMT
#1105
If you can use your PS3 stick on GGPO it'll work with AE.

Just had to boot up my stream to show a stream monster that a 500 dollar laptop cna run AE on PC at an A on benchmark on highest graphics settings. Kids these days...
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 09 2011 01:23 GMT
#1106
On July 09 2011 09:04 Corvi wrote:
i fail a lot with the trials, even the most simple looking combos.

for example dhalsim lvl 10. h punch into focus attack. i just cant connect this to a combo. the focus attack starts waaay after the punch. when do i have to start pressing the buttons?


As mentioned above, try b.hp as well, but you need to press focus attack as soon as the normal attack hits, if it's supposed to combo. You're canceling the normal move into the focus attack.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 09 2011 04:03 GMT
#1107
On July 09 2011 06:15 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 05:26 Lucumo wrote:
On July 09 2011 05:22 MaGariShun wrote:
EDIT: I am also one of the 1% who don't have any console

Same here, arcade ftw.


Same here, I used to go to SVGL and just play on my PC, but I own a TE lol

I use it to play emulator games as well, give it the old classic arcade feel, makes it more fun imo.

Well, we saw how it turned out in the various games(playing with a TE). I just use a PS2 Controller for all the emulated games, ranging from NES over DS till Wii. Works perfectly fine and I have no trouble controlling my character
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#1108
Lol Mario 64 is f'ing hard on a TE no joke. But its all good, I still like the feel of having a TE for everything.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#1109
u don't know hard until u tried drunken TTT on ddr dance mat
Forever Young
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#1110
How is Dee Jay in this game? I was just online warrioring it up on dat Xbox Live and played 3 of them in a row. wtf. I didn't even see a single shoto today, or Oni or Evil Ryu. They all turned into Dee Jay players.

He seems a lot more Super Turbo-ish now. cr.lp x ___ hit confirm combos, double upkicks, slide as footsies, slide as antiair (well only if you stick out an air attack), annoying Air Slashers, etc. lk sobat lower body invincibility looks good, as do a lot of his normals. I guess he's like low mid tier now? Or not that good. He just doesn't do any damage and doesn't have an overhead. That kind of sounds like Rose tbh.

Maybe I was just impressed by that one guy with 4000 PP using him.
strayzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 05:34:29
July 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#1111
marn stream: http://twitch.tv/marnorz


On July 09 2011 08:53 Tilorn wrote:
The default button setup for keyboard is ASDZXC for normals, F for all 3 punches, V for all kicks, Q for grabs, W for focus, and arrows for movement. It is pretty awesome, the only problem I have with it is that there are some tricky moves to pull off with it, like Fei Longs chicken wings that I can't combo with at all. ((

Are there any tutorials for Fei Long? He is my favourite character, and the only thing I can find on youtube is Mago tearing everyone up with moves I didn't even knew were possible.


RyuApprentice on youtube has several tutorial videos.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 09 2011 05:54 GMT
#1112
On July 09 2011 14:34 strayzor wrote:
marn stream: http://twitch.tv/marnorz

Saw a bit of it yesterday, was pretty messed up ^_^

Justin.tv is getting somewhat popular(or raises attention at least) in Japan now. I hope the players won't start streaming there, so that the western world can continue to pretend that their players/tournaments are any good
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
July 09 2011 06:00 GMT
#1113
Do you have any tips on how to beat the CPU? Does it even help to play against it? I'm getting incredibly frustrated in those "rival" fights where the opponents just seem to completely lame out and know everything you do the instant you do it. This is on normal. I can't even imagine how it will be on higher difficulty. I had an Abel (as Guile) who did nothing but roll around and throw me with his bullshit command throw, a bison (as juri) who blocks everything in turtle mode and then jumps you the instant you press a button other than block. And the thing I got frustrated with the most was gouken as oni who just spammed me with his fireballs all day long and when I tried to focus it or jump them, he would react instantly (again, the instant you press the button he starts the reaction) and punish me. Usually I was at 50% when I landed the first hit on him. Took me about an hour till I finally found out the AI is pretty stupid when you just focus attack them over and over again when you finally get a knowdown lol. Funny thing is I always got Seth down the 1st or 2nd try.

So would you recommend to abandon singleplayer, or does it help you to also get better against human players?
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 06:45:06
July 09 2011 06:31 GMT
#1114
vs cpu is 100% useless in fighting games. It's there to kill time / make you mad at how stupid it plays.

Lucumo, GodsGarden has been streaming for a while now I think. There are a few others that stream occasionally as well, though most just upload footage. There were a few hours of footage of the 2nd BP Yun players in Japan just doing online matches put on youtube/srk recently too if you're interested.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 09 2011 06:55 GMT
#1115
On July 09 2011 15:31 Trumpet wrote:
Lucumo, GodsGarden has been streaming for a while now I think. There are a few others that stream occasionally as well, though most just upload footage. There were a few hours of footage of the 2nd BP Yun players in Japan just doing online matches put on youtube/srk recently too if you're interested.

Lol, I know, don't worry. It was Kazunoko on GG, he plays arcade exclusively though and despite being "new" to online play, he owned everyone, only losing 3-or-so games. I'm not talking about the already existing ones, those don't stream that regularly anyway.
curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#1116
Hey guys, been loving the game! Playing it on my keyboard at the moment just with asdf zxcv for punch/kick and arrow keys and I'm going okay ^_^

Decided to main Sakura and I'm enjoying playing her, I'd like to tell you guys the combo I learnt but I'm not sure for the proper acronyms for all the different things lol >_< I understand most of them apart from all the xx's, what do those mean?

On that note would anybody be able to show me some sort of beginner's/starers guide to street fighter? I've been delving through guides but would love to find some compilation that I could read through. The stuff on eventhubs.com seem pretty good but I wouldn't mind some recommended ones
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
July 09 2011 12:36 GMT
#1117
On July 09 2011 20:04 curreh wrote:
Hey guys, been loving the game! Playing it on my keyboard at the moment just with asdf zxcv for punch/kick and arrow keys and I'm going okay ^_^

Decided to main Sakura and I'm enjoying playing her, I'd like to tell you guys the combo I learnt but I'm not sure for the proper acronyms for all the different things lol >_< I understand most of them apart from all the xx's, what do those mean?

On that note would anybody be able to show me some sort of beginner's/starers guide to street fighter? I've been delving through guides but would love to find some compilation that I could read through. The stuff on eventhubs.com seem pretty good but I wouldn't mind some recommended ones

I asked the same questions a while ago, so I can provide you with the stuff I found useful as a complete beginner:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TBirdSF4
http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade

and the shoryuken wiki and site in general:
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php

hope it helps
curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 09 2011 12:54 GMT
#1118
Thanks so much MaGariShun! Time to start learning ;P
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:05:21
July 09 2011 12:57 GMT
#1119
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE is ok, but it's something you generally go to when you have a specific question, not a generic guide.

As much as I hate seeing the guy's ego fed, Sirlin's beginner ST guides on youtube are probably the best street fighter basics guides that I know of. The guide Air made for Ryu is pretty sick too
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4




when people are typing combos, "xx" denotes a cancel, whereas "," and "->" generally mean links or target combos.

A cancel, of course, being when you go from a normal move to a special or super move during the normal's active frames. Old timers call em 2 in 1s, which makes a little more sense to the average person since you're inputting the special move while the normal move is still happening. cr.fp xx lk tatsu would be a cancel for sakura.

A link is when you have to wait for something to fully recover before starting the next move. st.lp, cr.fp would be a link.

I hate the new SRK site, and those forums are usually 5% good advice, 25% accurate but meaningless information, and 70% garbage players running their mouths as though no one can tell they're garbage.

The basics you need to know is basically that the same way starcraft is 90% about macro/mechanics and the rest of matchup strategy only works or makes sense once youve got your mechanics down, fighters are no different. You need to be able to block, you need to be able to anti air, and you need to be able to punish.

If you're playing sakura, cr.fp is your anti air. This forces people to earn their offense against you instead of letting them jump in on you for free combo / pressure. Learn one basic combo that you can reliably do (cr.mk xx sho or something similar) so that every time someone does something dumb in your face you can take their life bar for it. If you only punish a DP (20% damage) with a throw (10% damage), then they can do 2 terrible bad DPs for every one that hits and still be even with you.

Blocking comes with time and is more about learning what different characters overheads look like. When you get knocked down, try to block instead of doing reversals. if you must do something on wakeup, backdash. Backdashes have short invulnerability on them, which makes them a safe getaway option.


@Myrm, I'm not really sure how I feel about DeeJay. He's definitely not bad. His fireball game is respectable and he has ok reversals. He just still has the same problem of not as good or as many defensive options as guile, but not much better offense or pressure. Until he has something worth picking him for other than the trollface, I doubt you'll ever see too much of him. Some people just love to play matchups that no one's familiar with.
ChronoCat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
266 Posts
July 09 2011 13:26 GMT
#1120
One of the first things I'm trying to do is get the execution in this game down. What are some important things I should do to be able to execute useful combos? (aside from practicing hard)

I've heard of stuff like plinking/double tapping and my idea of what they are is techniques that will improve your combo execution, though I'm not 100% sure of how they function. Is mastering those techniques essential to become a decent player? How big of a role do they play in a high-level match?

I'm completely new to the SF4 series, but I've had experience playing quite a bit of 3rd strike, so I'm at least knowledgeable about general street fighter stuff. The biggest difference I see between sf3 and sf4 is that sf4 is a bit slower-paced and much more execution-heavy (hence why I want to improve my execution in this game before worrying about other things).

Is this the right approach? If so, I'd appreciate some answers to my previous questions. If not, what should I focus on instead?

Thanks!
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