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balosan
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland232 Posts
May 13 2015 19:12 GMT
#10661
On May 13 2015 21:27 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 18:58 balosan wrote:
On May 13 2015 16:44 Ophe wrote:
I've no idea if 'Same Skill' works on PC. I've never used it. I continuously ran head first in to a brick wall until I got through when I started out. But anyway, if you want to get better then you should stick to endless.

Also, I'd argue that playing better opponents is good. When you play bad players you might think that you're improving when in reality you're just getting away with stupid shit.


How about playing equaly skilled oponents ?


Firstly, the online matchmaking is completely awful. I ran into the exact same problems looking for equally skilled, I played everyone from 0-10,000 PP when I was starting out.

Secondly, to answer this question, I think playing equally skilled and weaker opponents should be your main goal for the first few months of playing this game and play a friend who is very skilled every few weeks. A lot of people constantly recommend playing against better people, but I think it's a very flawed idea for that to be the majority of your practice before you're comfortable with the game and how it works (3-6 months). Playing against better players is completely overwhelming and not exactly helpful for starting out. They know the game on a completely different level to you. It's like talking maths with a PhD student while you're learning how to multiply. They'll give you vague advice and say things like "this is a good button" but you'll have no idea why it's a good button or how to use it. In the mean-time they'll be destroying you constantly and you'll end up with the idea that nothing your character does works because they already know how to deal with it. For example, my friend would tell me that my offence needs more throws (he was right) but he would just tech them all constantly, so then he tells me that this is good for frame trapping (I didn't know what that was) but then he knows how to deal with beginner level frame traps too. So I'm just left back where I started.

Meanwhile, playing against someone as good as you or worse means you at least have periods where things work. You can learn how to get openings and how to play the game without having your every action shut down completely. Yes you might come up with some scrubby techniques, but when you play against your skilled friend, they will correct you. It's not the end of the world by any means. Learning that X works against a bad person, you can adapt it to work against an equal player and then adapt for a better player.

It's also significantly more encouraging when you're winning a few games.

tl;dr - if you play against better players, you're being constantly told what doesn't work which isn't helpful when you don't know what does work. Playing against weaker/equal players will help you learn what can/does work. The vast majority of your games should be against equal/weaker players when starting out.


100% agree and thats why it makes me so sad that developers are refusing to put some basic matchmaking in fighting games (USF, MKX).
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 13 2015 23:58 GMT
#10662
Toryuken 4 is this weekend. Some good talent is gonna be there, but they don't have a good list yet. Streams will be at:

http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers2

Will have a bit more information soon.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 00:31:29
May 14 2015 00:24 GMT
#10663
Toryuken 4
May 15-17, 2015 |
      • Streams:
            • http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
            • http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers2

Toryuken 4 is an annual fighting game tournament in Toronto, Canada. Last year we had K-Brad, Chi-Rithy, J-Wong, and Riceata finishing top 4, with an assortment of Canadian and North American players competing for the top. This year we'll see a similar lineup.

The event starts Friday the 15th of May, 2015, and concludes the following Sunday.


Schedule for USF4 is as follows:

Friday 15th of May
      • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Team Tournament
            19:00 EDT - 21:00 EDT |
            http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

Saturday 16th of May
      • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Singles to Top 16
            12:00 EDT - 16:00 EDT |
            http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
      Break for UMvC3, then
      • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Singles Top 16 to Top 8
            18:00 EDT - 20:00 EDT |
            http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

Sunday 17th of May
      • Ultra Street Fighter 4 Singles Top 8
            18:00 EDT - 20:00 EDT |
            http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

News and updates will be added to this post as details become available.

* * *

I'm busy with a video project right now so I'll take a more careful look through the entrants list later. If you want to you can check it out yourself, and let me know if you see anyone interesting. <3

OH AND ANOTHER THING: for the past couple of events I have copy-pasted information about them from the OP to the thread itself. Are you guys fine with that or would you prefer I just only add it to the OP and just make a small post here instead telling you where to find the information?

Edit: Trimmed. OP is bigger info, I just kept the schedule for this one.
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 14 2015 07:45 GMT
#10664
I'm fine with it. You have made a sick OP but I almost never read it, I just read the latest replies in the thread :3
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
May 14 2015 11:15 GMT
#10665
Barg, I live in Toronto but am traveling this weekend
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
May 15 2015 11:50 GMT
#10666
So apparently it's 50% off and free weekend for USIV. Should one be kind and hope they stay or should one beat the shit out of them and hope they get so mad that they stay?
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 15 2015 22:51 GMT
#10667
Toryuken 4, USF4 Team Tournament is starting in 10 minutes over at http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 15 2015 23:01 GMT
#10668
Probably free for Infiltration, but going to watch nonetheless
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 15 2015 23:02 GMT
#10669
At least JWong and K-Brad are there, but yeah, it's gonna be Infiltration vs one of them in the finals.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 15 2015 23:11 GMT
#10670
Oh, I also updated the OP with player, bracket, and pool information. Challonge brackets are here if you want to take a look, but we're not going to have any super well known players clashing until the main brackets.
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Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 23:19:23
May 15 2015 23:18 GMT
#10671
If you guys are interested, Justin Wong seems to have developed a habit of streaming the day before tournaments at the location with his tablet or phone or something. Not too long, but you get to see players and stuff, so give him a follow if that's something you want to see.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/eg_jwong/profile
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#10672
Team EG vs Team Infiltration should be coming up pretty soon™. They're just doing some loser's bracket matches first.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 16 2015 01:05 GMT
#10673
And Infiltration solos the team tournament with Decapre. <3
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 16 2015 18:26 GMT
#10674
Julio as a guest on the latest Capcom Pro Talk. Turns out he's a cool dude, gonna root for him in the future!

Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 16 2015 21:49 GMT
#10675
On May 15 2015 20:50 Aando wrote:
So apparently it's 50% off and free weekend for USIV. Should one be kind and hope they stay or should one beat the shit out of them and hope they get so mad that they stay?


My experience this weekend has been a flood of 0 PP, 0 BP players who a) have their mics on, probably without realizing it, b) spam buttons constantly, and c) have Variable framerate enabled for super slow matches. All of those things are probably super frustrating for the new players because it's not a positive user experience.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 16 2015 21:49 GMT
#10676
~10 minutes until we get some more USF4. Top 16 to top 8 will be at http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers after Marvel.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 17 2015 01:11 GMT
#10677
USF4 is done for the day. Top 8 to grand finals start tomorrow at about the same time -- 18:00 EDT, or slightly less than 21 hours from now. Infiltration, JWong, KBrad in winners, surprising nobody.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 17 2015 21:53 GMT
#10678
Alright! MKX finals is live right now. USF4 top 8 is coming up after this.
http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 17 2015 23:13 GMT
#10679
Infiltration's Decapre is so dirty.

I love it. ♥
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 17 2015 23:43 GMT
#10680
Toryuken 4 is done, and Infiltration is still broken. Next up for him is Stunfest next weekend.

Stunfest and Combo Breaker are two majors happening at the same time next weekend, the former in France and the latter in Illinois, USA. I should have some info about both pretty soon.

Not gonna do a post writeup of Toryuken, because let's face it -- it's Toryuken.
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