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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#6541
I am arthurlaja123@gmail.com. just add me on steam (psn_wintex95). I wanna play with people.
The Bomber boy
Rijot
Profile Joined July 2013
137 Posts
July 23 2013 12:52 GMT
#6542
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 23 2013 13:29 GMT
#6543
On July 23 2013 21:52 Rijot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.

As I said before, I'm not planning to become a pro, plus I've seen pros doing just fine w/o stick.
EZ4ENCE
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 23 2013 13:31 GMT
#6544
Well there's a difference between not becoming pro and simply not being able to do certain moves.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 23 2013 13:43 GMT
#6545
Yeah if you cannot hold 3 keys down I don't see how you can possibly play Juri <_< A better keyboard costs like 5 dollars or less.

You don't need an arcade stick at all, I'd argue that keyboard is superior to arcade stick in many things. I suggest a control system where the thumb is jump, preferably for the right hand. Right hand also has the kick and punch keys as a cluster of 3x2 so that both those keys and the jump are comfortable to press. Furthermore, you also have issues in other games with a laptop keyboard.

Jump for the right hand's thumb because if it's on the left hand your left and right motions become totally different, it's much easier if it's on the right hand.


Using number keys for movement with up to jump is awful please don't even think about doing that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
July 23 2013 13:44 GMT
#6546
So i bought the game on steam since I never use my xbox anymore, only to find out that my stick broke. First of all I'm deciding whether or not I'm gonna buy a new stick but in the meantime, I'm wondering; is it possible to do instant air teleports with the keyboard?

I haven't tested it but I think its nearly impossible to precisely and consistently teleport at varying heights using wasd.
Should probably play Boxer or Guile on keyboard.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 23 2013 14:10 GMT
#6547
On July 23 2013 22:29 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 21:52 Rijot wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.

As I said before, I'm not planning to become a pro, plus I've seen pros doing just fine w/o stick.


I REALLY suggest getting an arcade stick though. You can get them for not too much money(especially in cheap ass Sweden ), you feel that you have much more control over your character, AND it gives you that nice arcade feel when playing. I really regret that I didn't bring my arcade stick to my dads place during summer
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 23 2013 14:12 GMT
#6548
On July 23 2013 22:44 2stra wrote:
So i bought the game on steam since I never use my xbox anymore, only to find out that my stick broke. First of all I'm deciding whether or not I'm gonna buy a new stick but in the meantime, I'm wondering; is it possible to do instant air teleports with the keyboard?

I haven't tested it but I think its nearly impossible to precisely and consistently teleport at varying heights using wasd.
Should probably play Boxer or Guile on keyboard.


I don't know anything about teleporting, but I usually play on stick, and just tried playing keyboard today. It's NOT the same, and I suggest you buy another stick.

Even the cheap ones like this are better than keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Fighting-Stick-V3-Playstation-3/dp/B0057WDBHA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374588700&sr=8-1&keywords=hori v3
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 23 2013 14:43 GMT
#6549
On July 23 2013 23:12 Arnstein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 22:44 2stra wrote:
So i bought the game on steam since I never use my xbox anymore, only to find out that my stick broke. First of all I'm deciding whether or not I'm gonna buy a new stick but in the meantime, I'm wondering; is it possible to do instant air teleports with the keyboard?

I haven't tested it but I think its nearly impossible to precisely and consistently teleport at varying heights using wasd.
Should probably play Boxer or Guile on keyboard.


I don't know anything about teleporting, but I usually play on stick, and just tried playing keyboard today. It's NOT the same, and I suggest you buy another stick.

Even the cheap ones like this are better than keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Fighting-Stick-V3-Playstation-3/dp/B0057WDBHA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374588700&sr=8-1&keywords=hori v3


actually its like impossible to mess up hadoken, shoryuken/teleport and 2 quarter circle ultra inputs with keyboard, making it very easy to play with it in a lot of situations. the main problem besides looking retarded is you cant really doubletab/plink and therefore some combos can be a problem.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 23 2013 15:18 GMT
#6550
Been dabbling with Gen lately

Of course, after Xian won Evo, it was worth just messing around with him and I just enjoy how he plays

But does anyone know where there's some basics and/or tutorials/guides for him?

Landing a normal into super and ultra is always satisfying even if it is so cheap!
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
July 23 2013 15:43 GMT
#6551
Decided to give fighting games an honest shot.

I looked into fightsticks and ended up ordering the Mad Catz WWE BrawlStick and a suite of Sanwa components. Now all I need is a custom decal and I should have an stick that is much better than I am. Does anyone know any good resources for making designs, everything I've come up with is pretty mediocre.
^O^
jeefzors
Profile Joined March 2011
United States120 Posts
July 23 2013 15:45 GMT
#6552
On July 23 2013 22:43 Shikyo wrote:
Yeah if you cannot hold 3 keys down I don't see how you can possibly play Juri <_< A better keyboard costs like 5 dollars or less.

You don't need an arcade stick at all, I'd argue that keyboard is superior to arcade stick in many things. I suggest a control system where the thumb is jump, preferably for the right hand. Right hand also has the kick and punch keys as a cluster of 3x2 so that both those keys and the jump are comfortable to press. Furthermore, you also have issues in other games with a laptop keyboard.

Jump for the right hand's thumb because if it's on the left hand your left and right motions become totally different, it's much easier if it's on the right hand.


Using number keys for movement with up to jump is awful please don't even think about doing that.



Remapped to something like this..wow thats gonna take some time getting used to but it seems way better.
Thanks to denial, I'm immortal. -Fry
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
July 23 2013 15:52 GMT
#6553
Woops. forgot to add steam ID. Add me at http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043877497 as well if interested in practicing with beginners.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 23 2013 15:57 GMT
#6554
On July 23 2013 23:10 Arnstein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 22:29 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 21:52 Rijot wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.

As I said before, I'm not planning to become a pro, plus I've seen pros doing just fine w/o stick.


I REALLY suggest getting an arcade stick though. You can get them for not too much money(especially in cheap ass Sweden ), you feel that you have much more control over your character, AND it gives you that nice arcade feel when playing. I really regret that I didn't bring my arcade stick to my dads place during summer

Bolded part
Sweden is not as cheap as people might think, especially for students.

And getting a stick is not an option for me, because it most likely won't fit on my desktop. And since I'm having an office chair with armrest, it will be weird of me having it their. Plus I already have a set-up that I enjoy, why change a winning concept?
EZ4ENCE
Privilege Heem
Profile Joined September 2007
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 16:08:06
July 23 2013 16:05 GMT
#6555
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:16 Privilege Heem wrote:
Hello Team Liquid.

This online warrior will be taking on all challengers. I like to mash and my execution can be pretty embarrassing. My AE account on Steam is ZippySuperior36@live. I'm looking forward to getting blown up.

Are you located in Europe?


Forgot to mention that I am located on the West Coast of USA.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 23 2013 16:48 GMT
#6556
On July 24 2013 00:57 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 23:10 Arnstein wrote:
On July 23 2013 22:29 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 21:52 Rijot wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.

As I said before, I'm not planning to become a pro, plus I've seen pros doing just fine w/o stick.


I REALLY suggest getting an arcade stick though. You can get them for not too much money(especially in cheap ass Sweden ), you feel that you have much more control over your character, AND it gives you that nice arcade feel when playing. I really regret that I didn't bring my arcade stick to my dads place during summer

Bolded part
Sweden is not as cheap as people might think, especially for students.

And getting a stick is not an option for me, because it most likely won't fit on my desktop. And since I'm having an office chair with armrest, it will be weird of me having it their. Plus I already have a set-up that I enjoy, why change a winning concept?


Play with the stick on your lap. They're nice and heavy (in particular the TE series has a good amount of bulk to it so it's not going to slide around). Armrests or not, you'll still have plenty of room.
Moderator
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 23 2013 17:26 GMT
#6557
On July 24 2013 01:48 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 00:57 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 23:10 Arnstein wrote:
On July 23 2013 22:29 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 21:52 Rijot wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On July 23 2013 18:49 Cel.erity wrote:
IMO if you're using keyboard it should be unnecessary to need macro buttons for P/Kx3 and Focus/Throw. You're really just slowing yourself down and making things more difficult.

QWE/ASD was pretty comfortable for me the few times I've tried playing on keyboard.

My laptop's keyboard cannot register tripple-kick "the normal way", so I need to use that as someone maining Juri.

And before someone goes "get a better keyboard" I'll respond with no, because I don't need it. I can play all games just fine with my laptop's one.

The thing is, you probably can't. Playing SFIV on a keyboard without N-key rollover is very likely to give you problems, specially if you play characters like Juri. Say, you've charged lk and mk, is holding down-back and want to use jab? Does it come out? Even if it does, there will be button combinations that wont behave the way you expect them to.

As I said before, I'm not planning to become a pro, plus I've seen pros doing just fine w/o stick.


I REALLY suggest getting an arcade stick though. You can get them for not too much money(especially in cheap ass Sweden ), you feel that you have much more control over your character, AND it gives you that nice arcade feel when playing. I really regret that I didn't bring my arcade stick to my dads place during summer

Bolded part
Sweden is not as cheap as people might think, especially for students.

And getting a stick is not an option for me, because it most likely won't fit on my desktop. And since I'm having an office chair with armrest, it will be weird of me having it their. Plus I already have a set-up that I enjoy, why change a winning concept?


Play with the stick on your lap. They're nice and heavy (in particular the TE series has a good amount of bulk to it so it's not going to slide around). Armrests or not, you'll still have plenty of room.

Ok, but because I'm a poor student, IF, big emphasis on IF, I'm gonna end up buying one, it won't be until later this year (which means just in time for Ultra)
EZ4ENCE
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 23 2013 17:40 GMT
#6558
Apparently, the Fuakiage hitting grounded opponent for Makoto is only the EX version. ( dixit Vryu on SRK )
Still, it's very strong. It's basically having an uppercut mixed with something like the Yun's shoulder for the cross under mix up possibilities.

Fex example provided
- f+LP > ex fuki, or crLK/crMP os ex fuki.
- Jump attack OS ex fuki
- air to air > land > ex fuki crossdown mixuo
- ex fuki > ultra2
Etc
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
July 23 2013 18:32 GMT
#6559
On July 23 2013 22:44 2stra wrote:
So i bought the game on steam since I never use my xbox anymore, only to find out that my stick broke.


If it's just a busted button or busted stick gates, you can order those online and put them in yourself. Buttons are dirt cheap and a decent stick is around 25 dollars which will last a pretty long time. I'd look into this before buying a new one :p.
knuckle
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 19:17:07
July 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#6560
On July 24 2013 03:32 HeatEXTEND wrote:

If it's just a busted button or busted stick gates, you can order those online and put them in yourself. Buttons are dirt cheap and a decent stick is around 25 dollars which will last a pretty long time. I'd look into this before buying a new one :p.


I suppose that would be the most sensible thing to do : )

All the buttons still work, it's just the stick itself that is the issue. It doesn't register any inputs to the left. Do you think that replacing the stick would fix this? It might be a problem with a chip or something. Anyway, gonna try it out first, thanks!

edit: What would be the best place to order parts in Europe?
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