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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 20 2013 11:08 GMT
#6461
It has already been on the summer sale, I think, but will probably come back the last day!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 20 2013 11:09 GMT
#6462
On July 20 2013 20:00 Andr3 wrote:
I hope there's a steam sale soon. Never played any SF but really looks like an interesting and complex game.


It's currently -50% as a part of the summer sale until Monday, so if there's no daily or flash deals for it before that, I'd pick it up with that price.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 20 2013 11:13 GMT
#6463
But that's the vanilla version or? Like isn't there bunch of versions, SSF, SSF:arcade.

Is the version of steam eligible for the SSF: ultra update coming in 2014?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 20 2013 11:15 GMT
#6464
On July 20 2013 20:13 Andr3 wrote:
But that's the vanilla version or? Like isn't there bunch of versions, SSF, SSF:arcade.

Is the version of steam eligible for the SSF: ultra update coming in 2014?


Vanilla is $10, AE is $15, and yeah you definitely want AE.

I assume the PC version will be eligible for the ultra update with the same price point as the console version, but I guess I can't say for sure.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 20 2013 11:22 GMT
#6465
On July 20 2013 20:13 Andr3 wrote:
But that's the vanilla version or? Like isn't there bunch of versions, SSF, SSF:arcade.

Is the version of steam eligible for the SSF: ultra update coming in 2014?


It's the latest version, SSF4:AE: http://store.steampowered.com/app/45760/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_3

And yes it is eligible for Ultra upgrade eventually, though not sure if it'll get it at the same time as consoles.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 20 2013 11:30 GMT
#6466
Well that's annoying, seem to be region locked in my area. I assume due to GFWL ;;

Guess I'll have to get it somewhere else.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#6467
That link might be for a specific region though, try searching for it in your own Steam client.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
July 20 2013 15:35 GMT
#6468
On July 20 2013 19:40 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 19:31 Cel.erity wrote:
On July 20 2013 19:28 Tobberoth wrote:
On July 20 2013 19:13 Mitsuwa wrote:
On July 20 2013 18:34 Tobberoth wrote:
Any advice on how to get better at comboing? I was completely blown away by how ridiculously precise you have to be, it's literally one frame or something. To show how bad I am: I tried for at least 5, possibly 10 minutes, to complete Ryu trial 7, and I just couldn't do it. I was able to get the first two hits connected maybe 10 times, at most. I tried plinking (which if I understand it correctly is using a lighter attack just before the one you want to do) but it didn't help at all, it's just ridiculous. I can get some combos down fairly consistently (basic stuff like jump fierce kick into hadouken/shoryuken), but any combo which requires 3 hits is more or less impossible for me to pull off.


You should try breaking the combo up. For Ryu trial 7 they want you to do cr strong cr strong then cr roundhouse. So first practice cr strong cr strong then practice cr strong cr roundhouse. Then when you have them both consistently (10 times in a row without messing up) try putting them together.

This works for all combos no matter how complex

Also, you are doing plinking backwards. You want the light punch to come out second, but almost immediately after the first attack. So you get both buttons to register on the second button press, which causes the game to register the stronger attack, essentially allowing you to press the stronger button twice without actually pressing the same button.

Watch Desk's video about it, it'll be easier to see and understand.


Thanks for the advice. Should be noted though, there are combos where you can't really train them in parts, at least I think so. I was working on Guile trial 11 as I wrote this (jump F kick, F punch, sonic boom) and I don't think a F punch is long enough to get a sonic boom out (unless you tell the training bot to move towards you or something I guess).


Hold down-back for a second, then keep holding back and do s.HP xx Sonic Boom. But that's not a link, it's a cancel, so it should be easy enough that you don't need to practice it.

Whut, it's supposed to be a cancel? It's not working for me at all. I can do the jump F kick to stand F punch extremely consistently but it's completely impossible for me to combo in the sonic boom. Either I pull it off but it's just slightly too late and it's blocked, or it won't come out at all because I do it during the F punch...


You have to do it during the s.fp though. I suspect you are not charging early enough. As a charge character you have to learn to charge whenever possible. That means whenever you do an input that requires your joystick to leave down/back you go right back there so your charge move is ready if you need it. If you don't have charge you can't use a charge move and therefore can't cancel into one. To do this trial you will have to start charging back right after you jump. If you do it that way you should have no trouble cancelling the s.fp.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#6469
There's some crazy rumors going on on the Shoryuken forums.
Apparently FChamp just told a bunch of things about the update on his stream, with all the changes to dhalsim and some others things.

And the rumors about having both Ultra available at the same time ( although with reduced damage I guess ) is really poping out a lot.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 20 2013 18:33 GMT
#6470
On July 21 2013 03:19 Noocta wrote:
And the rumors about having both Ultra available at the same time ( although with reduced damage I guess ) is really poping out a lot.

o.O

This could be pretty game changing.
EZ4ENCE
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 18:43:04
July 20 2013 18:34 GMT
#6471
On July 21 2013 03:19 Noocta wrote:
And the rumors about having both Ultra available at the same time ( although with reduced damage I guess ) is really poping out a lot.

That would be so lovely for characters who can use their ultras for setups. As a Balrog main I'm not too excited but my Dhalsim would be very happy.

Characters who would benefit a lot from this:

Juri, Rose, Makoto, Dudley, Akuma, Gen, Chun Li, Dhalsim, Abel, Sagat, Cammy, Hakan, Blanka, Zangief, Rufus, Fei Long, T. Hawk, Adon

I'm really scared about what this would do to gief. Shouldn't be too hard to find a jump-in~U1/U2 OS.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 20 2013 19:10 GMT
#6472
Both Ultra at the same time?

We playin Mahvel now.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 20 2013 19:15 GMT
#6473
Well that's useful considering both ultras of both my main characters are useless. Hooray.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 20 2013 19:16 GMT
#6474
On July 21 2013 04:15 Mannerheim wrote:
Well that's useful considering both ultras of both my main characters are useless. Hooray.


o.O what character would that be?
Fan of the Jangbanger
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 20 2013 19:22 GMT
#6475
On July 21 2013 04:16 O-ops wrote:
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On July 21 2013 04:15 Mannerheim wrote:
Well that's useful considering both ultras of both my main characters are useless. Hooray.


o.O what character would that be?


Honda and Bison.

(okay maybe not useless for Bison, just extremely situational)
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 19:23:25
July 20 2013 19:23 GMT
#6476
It's called ULTRA Street Fighter 4 after all.

Can see how this benefits Rose and Evil Ryu situationally (My secondaries), but not really Juri (my main)
EZ4ENCE
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 20 2013 19:33 GMT
#6477
You don't see the use of having a custom combo engine available while still being able to choose to confirm into an actual ultra? Even if you only get to use one or the other within a given match that's an extremely powerful set of options. I'd say that change would benefit Juri more than most other characters
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 20 2013 19:53 GMT
#6478
Also, I caved and finally re-bought sf4 on steam (long story - when i bought it the first time it registered to a GFWL account that wasnt signed in and already had the game, so the key was lost in the abyss, steam support told me i had to make a new steam account and buy it again -_-), so i'll post my info here once i'm set up.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 20:30:55
July 20 2013 20:30 GMT
#6479
On July 21 2013 04:22 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:16 O-ops wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:15 Mannerheim wrote:
Well that's useful considering both ultras of both my main characters are useless. Hooray.


o.O what character would that be?


Honda and Bison.

(okay maybe not useless for Bison, just extremely situational)


Yo, i called that shit to myself :D

To be honest, i think they will try to buff Honda's and Rog's U2 and make it into a true command grab (again for Honda). Being able to jump out by just holding up during animation is pretty stupid.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
July 20 2013 20:48 GMT
#6480
I am waiting for the game to hopefully go on sale on Steam again but if not I will buy it regardless. Question, how is the PC versions netcode compared to the console versions?
Twitter: @KingKosi
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