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YulyaVolkova
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom95 Posts
August 06 2012 14:18 GMT
#4621
On August 06 2012 16:23 Coffin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 08:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 06 2012 06:03 Coffin wrote:
On August 05 2012 09:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Steam says I have been playing for about 8 hours now! Been practicing a lot online + my new Hori Fighting VX!

Just beat this guy's Ryu, Evil Ryu and now Oni @___@

[image loading]

They just ranked me up to D+ :D


Lol dude, I played you today. :D
mellowgerman, the B ranked Yang. ^^


OH DUDE!
You were good man! That fucking ultra fucked me up! I've never played a Yang before, so I dunno what you were able to do!

Sick fucking games man :D gg! Was definitely fun! I just started playing ahha!


Nah man, I suck and I played bad, I still have no idea against buki, so I just did hard kicks, sweeps and uppercuts randomly. :D I had 5000 BP 2 days ago and now its down to 2900 BP. Abit strange, but it fits way more to my playing level, since I get fucked up all the time. It's all about PP anyway.
But Im gonna rematch you any time you want.


When you rank up the amount of BP you win/lose changes alot, so when you hit the 5000 BP rank (B? cant remember) youll start losing significantly more points for losing and winning significantly less for winning. This results in the majority of people getting up to 5000bp fairly easily, but then never really getting further until they drastically improve their game so that they win a fair bit more often than they lose. You drop ranks at half the BP required for the rank iirc, so once you get down to 2500BP youll drop down to C+ or whatever the next lowest rank is, and likely shoot up in points to 5000 again - repeat until your skill levels up enough to get past the plateau :o). Im just going off of very vague memories but I think when youre C+ you need to win around 1/3 of your matches against the same PP/BP to break even on points, but when youre B its somewhere around 2/3 of your matches, so a really really big jump in skill required. Once youre up at the A ranks you need to win such a ludicrously large % of your matches its kinda silly and really does make some peoples BPs like say Latif /Wolfkrone both being around 30000 really fucking impressive :p.
HocusPocus
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 14:23:13
August 06 2012 14:22 GMT
#4622
Hostet an Endless Lobby right now on PC
GFWL: AnBi2199
Location: Germany
everyone from all regions can play i dont care about lag
also im streaming the whole thing: www.twitch.tv/anbi2199
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 06 2012 14:32 GMT
#4623
How do you block against Akuma's ultra? HE always gets me ._.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
HocusPocus
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany214 Posts
August 06 2012 14:34 GMT
#4624
On August 06 2012 23:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
How do you block against Akuma's ultra? HE always gets me ._.

Akumas U1 is a grab and thus has to be avoided by jumping. A grab cant be blocked thats why he always gets you when you try to block it =)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 06 2012 14:35 GMT
#4625
Dammit, that explains that.
Is Ibuki's first ultra a grab?
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HocusPocus
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany214 Posts
August 06 2012 15:01 GMT
#4626
On August 06 2012 23:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Dammit, that explains that.
Is Ibuki's first ultra a grab?

I srsly dont know, i really dont know much about ibuki.
you could test it in training mode, set the dummy to allblock and then do the Ultra
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Censor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
August 06 2012 15:09 GMT
#4627
Ibuki's Ultra 1 is a 0+1 grab, which means that you can jump after the flash. The best way to punish it is to neutral jump out of it, hit her with a jumping hard punch and then do a full combo.
Fantasy | Hydra | Flash
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
August 06 2012 15:47 GMT
#4628
On August 06 2012 23:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Dammit, that explains that.
Is Ibuki's first ultra a grab?


It's both. On the first frame it's a grab, but after that it leaves behind that red damaging area that I believe is a projectile. This means if your grab misses it has some other way to do damage, but it also means you can combo into it.
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Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
August 06 2012 15:49 GMT
#4629
On August 06 2012 23:18 YulyaVolkova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 16:23 Coffin wrote:
On August 06 2012 08:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 06 2012 06:03 Coffin wrote:
On August 05 2012 09:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Steam says I have been playing for about 8 hours now! Been practicing a lot online + my new Hori Fighting VX!

Just beat this guy's Ryu, Evil Ryu and now Oni @___@

[image loading]

They just ranked me up to D+ :D


Lol dude, I played you today. :D
mellowgerman, the B ranked Yang. ^^


OH DUDE!
You were good man! That fucking ultra fucked me up! I've never played a Yang before, so I dunno what you were able to do!

Sick fucking games man :D gg! Was definitely fun! I just started playing ahha!


Nah man, I suck and I played bad, I still have no idea against buki, so I just did hard kicks, sweeps and uppercuts randomly. :D I had 5000 BP 2 days ago and now its down to 2900 BP. Abit strange, but it fits way more to my playing level, since I get fucked up all the time. It's all about PP anyway.
But Im gonna rematch you any time you want.


When you rank up the amount of BP you win/lose changes alot, so when you hit the 5000 BP rank (B? cant remember) youll start losing significantly more points for losing and winning significantly less for winning. This results in the majority of people getting up to 5000bp fairly easily, but then never really getting further until they drastically improve their game so that they win a fair bit more often than they lose. You drop ranks at half the BP required for the rank iirc, so once you get down to 2500BP youll drop down to C+ or whatever the next lowest rank is, and likely shoot up in points to 5000 again - repeat until your skill levels up enough to get past the plateau :o). Im just going off of very vague memories but I think when youre C+ you need to win around 1/3 of your matches against the same PP/BP to break even on points, but when youre B its somewhere around 2/3 of your matches, so a really really big jump in skill required. Once youre up at the A ranks you need to win such a ludicrously large % of your matches its kinda silly and really does make some peoples BPs like say Latif /Wolfkrone both being around 30000 really fucking impressive :p.


Thanks for the explanation, appreciate it. I guess I gotta level up faster haha.
And yeah I saw the winrates of like Nemo and Daigo in one match be over 80%, thats really impressive considering they dont play scrubs all day :p
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:24:20
August 06 2012 15:50 GMT
#4630
On August 07 2012 00:09 Censor wrote:
Ibuki's Ultra 1 is a 0+1 grab, which means that you can jump after the flash. The best way to punish it is to neutral jump out of it, hit her with a jumping hard punch and then do a full combo.


That propably helps me more than him thanks. :D
That ultra does a ton of damage as well.
noFear
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada36 Posts
August 06 2012 22:47 GMT
#4631
I dunno if this happened before to any of you but it's been happening a couple of times to me lately and... while it's not affecting me I still find it really frustrating: the other player leaves the game during the match because he's getting beaten up, thus not losing any bps...

Like I said it's not really changing anything for me but still, I felt really frustrated after it happened...

Their XBL tags:
xxKillahsquadxx
BovineUniGrad

If it's a bug or it might be something coming from my end please inform me... I'd like to know if this is a problem occasioned by me.
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
August 07 2012 02:03 GMT
#4632
Hmm...the way to "tighten" the joystick is the turn the screw below the stick right? Mine won't budge :<
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 07 2012 04:38 GMT
#4633
On August 07 2012 11:03 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Hmm...the way to "tighten" the joystick is the turn the screw below the stick right? Mine won't budge :<

What do you mean by tightening? The screw on the bottom controls the balltop. If the balltop is loose and unscrewing during play, hold the balltop and screw it in.
If you want the stick to be more stiff you will need to replace/add spring inside the joystick.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
August 07 2012 04:56 GMT
#4634
Ooooh that makes sense xD thank you for the info
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 07 2012 15:21 GMT
#4635
Should I be using my PP or BP to judge my skill level? I'm at about 1400PP and 3300BP right now and I feel like my BP doesn't drop drastically enough when I lose. I can lose up to 90PP at a time but it just seems so random for BP.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
August 07 2012 15:30 GMT
#4636
On August 08 2012 00:21 Kinky wrote:
Should I be using my PP or BP to judge my skill level? I'm at about 1400PP and 3300BP right now and I feel like my BP doesn't drop drastically enough when I lose. I can lose up to 90PP at a time but it just seems so random for BP.


PP is player skill, basically equivalent to Elo rating because it rises and falls based on the gap between you and your opponent. BP does this too but it's influenced by certain breakpoints which makes it less reliable as a skill indicator, for example never losing any BP until you get to 500, losing very little until you get to 5000, etc.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 15:37:04
August 07 2012 15:36 GMT
#4637
On August 08 2012 00:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 00:21 Kinky wrote:
Should I be using my PP or BP to judge my skill level? I'm at about 1400PP and 3300BP right now and I feel like my BP doesn't drop drastically enough when I lose. I can lose up to 90PP at a time but it just seems so random for BP.


PP is player skill, basically equivalent to Elo rating because it rises and falls based on the gap between you and your opponent. BP does this too but it's influenced by certain breakpoints which makes it less reliable as a skill indicator, for example never losing any BP until you get to 500, losing very little until you get to 5000, etc.


I've heard a better way to utilize online play is to understand matchups and spacing. Because unless you get perfect connections your online and offline experiences can vastly differ.

Also who needs elo? Just Remember! You're the best!


FADC
YulyaVolkova
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom95 Posts
August 07 2012 15:41 GMT
#4638
On August 07 2012 07:47 noFear wrote:
I dunno if this happened before to any of you but it's been happening a couple of times to me lately and... while it's not affecting me I still find it really frustrating: the other player leaves the game during the match because he's getting beaten up, thus not losing any bps...

Like I said it's not really changing anything for me but still, I felt really frustrated after it happened...

Their XBL tags:
xxKillahsquadxx
BovineUniGrad

If it's a bug or it might be something coming from my end please inform me... I'd like to know if this is a problem occasioned by me.


If someone discs mid game in ranked they lose maximum PP and BP, which are some big numbers about 100ish I cant remember. The person that they disced against doesnt get any increase in PP or BP tho. Nevertheless, they are being punished for doing it far more heavily than if they had just lost. If people disc like that its generally either a connection thing or probably more commonly just someone rage alt-f4ing. Sucks you don't get your points, but who particularly cares :o).
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 07 2012 15:52 GMT
#4639
On August 08 2012 00:36 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 00:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:21 Kinky wrote:
Should I be using my PP or BP to judge my skill level? I'm at about 1400PP and 3300BP right now and I feel like my BP doesn't drop drastically enough when I lose. I can lose up to 90PP at a time but it just seems so random for BP.


PP is player skill, basically equivalent to Elo rating because it rises and falls based on the gap between you and your opponent. BP does this too but it's influenced by certain breakpoints which makes it less reliable as a skill indicator, for example never losing any BP until you get to 500, losing very little until you get to 5000, etc.


I've heard a better way to utilize online play is to understand matchups and spacing. Because unless you get perfect connections your online and offline experiences can vastly differ.


Since I'm still pretty new, I try and take this attitude as much as possible. I will almost always win overall if I run it back with someone a few times after losing the first match, but some of those first matches can be so frustrating if you're playing against a character you've barely/never faced before. That plus online play quality, between lag and silly shit, means focus more on improving and smart stuff rather than only going for the win.

I'm working on having this mentality every time I play, but sometimes it's hard not to rage a little lol.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
August 07 2012 15:58 GMT
#4640
On August 08 2012 00:52 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 00:36 rwrzr wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:21 Kinky wrote:
Should I be using my PP or BP to judge my skill level? I'm at about 1400PP and 3300BP right now and I feel like my BP doesn't drop drastically enough when I lose. I can lose up to 90PP at a time but it just seems so random for BP.


PP is player skill, basically equivalent to Elo rating because it rises and falls based on the gap between you and your opponent. BP does this too but it's influenced by certain breakpoints which makes it less reliable as a skill indicator, for example never losing any BP until you get to 500, losing very little until you get to 5000, etc.


I've heard a better way to utilize online play is to understand matchups and spacing. Because unless you get perfect connections your online and offline experiences can vastly differ.


Since I'm still pretty new, I try and take this attitude as much as possible. I will almost always win overall if I run it back with someone a few times after losing the first match, but some of those first matches can be so frustrating if you're playing against a character you've barely/never faced before. That plus online play quality, between lag and silly shit, means focus more on improving and smart stuff rather than only going for the win.

I'm working on having this mentality every time I play, but sometimes it's hard not to rage a little lol.


Run it back with people you lose to due to gimmicks and tricks. I'd hit them up with a message and see if they would mind playing a few games. (Especially if they have a solid connection)

If you lose because of lag well that's just the nature of online.
FADC
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