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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
July 28 2012 21:27 GMT
#4481
On July 29 2012 05:51 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 04:40 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
I didn't, I REALLY wish I did though because ALL the DLC was on a huge sale. That's I asked earlier if they were compatible T__T

Thanks for the replies man!

Hows the DLC applied then? I thought it was a code and you would get the same code no matter where you bought it from but..

I was told steam DLC only works if you get it for steam, and I can't use my CD key to put SF on steam. I have to use the Windows Live marketplace :[
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 22:27:19
July 28 2012 22:25 GMT
#4482
On July 29 2012 06:13 ain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:01 Misanthrope wrote:
Should I grab a ps3 or 360 TE for PC AE? I've heard PS3 has problems depending on what you have under the hood, but the 360 controller drivers suck or something like that. Sorry if I have my head up my ass lol.

I don't know about the ps3 stick, but regarding the 360 controller they are usually plug-and-play. There are SOME setups that don't immediately recognise the stick, for those you have to get the microsoft xbox 360 controller driver:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/xbox-360-controller-for-windows#support

From what I've found reading SRK, you're correct ain. PS3 sticks have problems with certain usb controllers apparently, but they're fixable via bios update.
On July 29 2012 06:15 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:01 Misanthrope wrote:
Should I grab a ps3 or 360 TE for PC AE? I've heard PS3 has problems depending on what you have under the hood, but the 360 controller drivers suck or something like that. Sorry if I have my head up my ass lol.

Get yourself a nice dualmodded stick.

It seems there are also full-Sanwa Qanba multi-platform sticks out there. Is there a particular advantage to a stick that is sold as multi-platform, compared to a dedicated console stick with the proper drivers on PC? Are dual-modded and multi-platform the same thing? I'm assuming dual-modded implies after-market alterations.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 22:31:25
July 28 2012 22:31 GMT
#4483
if you only care about pc then simply get the xbox version. you certainly dont need multiplatform sticks for pc (i doubt ps3/xbox dual compatibility would help at pc anyways). sure, if you plan to attend local tourneys a qanba multi platform stick seems to be a nice alternative.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
July 29 2012 01:47 GMT
#4484
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 29 2012 02:07 GMT
#4485
On July 29 2012 10:47 Misanthrope wrote:
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and anger people, but most offline tourneys are played on 360.
FADC
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 29 2012 02:51 GMT
#4486
On July 29 2012 11:07 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 10:47 Misanthrope wrote:
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and anger people, but most offline tourneys are played on 360.


Not in Norcal =( Every single tournament in this entire region is on PS3 and the last time someone showed up at a Thursday Night Throwdown with a 360 stick, Kineda mocked him and said "you KNOW all the majors are on PS3 why would you bring a 360 stick?"
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 29 2012 03:40 GMT
#4487
On July 29 2012 11:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 11:07 rwrzr wrote:
On July 29 2012 10:47 Misanthrope wrote:
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and anger people, but most offline tourneys are played on 360.


Not in Norcal =( Every single tournament in this entire region is on PS3 and the last time someone showed up at a Thursday Night Throwdown with a 360 stick, Kineda mocked him and said "you KNOW all the majors are on PS3 why would you bring a 360 stick?"


Word good to know. Good heads up!
FADC
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 29 2012 03:59 GMT
#4488
-,- So to reliably go to tournaments I'm going to need to waste 60 euros on dual modding this thing and hope I don't fuck up ... z z z z z
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
July 29 2012 04:17 GMT
#4489
On July 29 2012 12:40 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 11:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 29 2012 11:07 rwrzr wrote:
On July 29 2012 10:47 Misanthrope wrote:
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and anger people, but most offline tourneys are played on 360.


Not in Norcal =( Every single tournament in this entire region is on PS3 and the last time someone showed up at a Thursday Night Throwdown with a 360 stick, Kineda mocked him and said "you KNOW all the majors are on PS3 why would you bring a 360 stick?"


Word good to know. Good heads up!

Perfect time to chime in with that info since I'll likely be in Chico.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 29 2012 04:55 GMT
#4490
pre-sbo 5v5 stream has started:
http://shoryuken.com/2012/07/28/starting-over-order-and-chaos-ssfiv-ae-5on5-tournament-streaming-live-at-12am-edt-9pm-pdt/
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
gr1gr0th
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2 Posts
July 29 2012 05:39 GMT
#4491
On July 29 2012 13:17 Misanthrope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 12:40 rwrzr wrote:
On July 29 2012 11:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 29 2012 11:07 rwrzr wrote:
On July 29 2012 10:47 Misanthrope wrote:
Competition is a fair point for consideration. As it stands I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'll likely be moving for university soon and I'll have more opportunities to play with groups of friends or at tournaments and it'll be totally worth it to invest in a stick capable of handling all the systems.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and anger people, but most offline tourneys are played on 360.


Not in Norcal =( Every single tournament in this entire region is on PS3 and the last time someone showed up at a Thursday Night Throwdown with a 360 stick, Kineda mocked him and said "you KNOW all the majors are on PS3 why would you bring a 360 stick?"


Word good to know. Good heads up!

Perfect time to chime in with that info since I'll likely be in Chico.

I live about a half-hour away from Chico and I've never really seen or heard of anything going down asides from the Sacramento area which is an hour out of my way, but it could be different at CSU. Assuming that's what you meant when you mentioned going to university.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 07:21:32
July 29 2012 06:56 GMT
#4492
On July 29 2012 13:55 pachi wrote:
pre-sbo 5v5 stream has started:
http://shoryuken.com/2012/07/28/starting-over-order-and-chaos-ssfiv-ae-5on5-tournament-streaming-live-at-12am-edt-9pm-pdt/

Adon 5
Charisma (Adon)
Mukii (Adon)
Ushinosuke (Adon)
Fuck Adon (Yun)
Yodon (Juri)


By the way this Makoto right now is amazing, wonder which one it is.

One Chan Tarou
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
July 29 2012 14:19 GMT
#4493
On July 29 2012 12:59 Shikyo wrote:
-,- So to reliably go to tournaments I'm going to need to waste 60 euros on dual modding this thing and hope I don't fuck up ... z z z z z


Not really. The beauty of learning stick is that everyone will have them so you can borrow someone's at a tourney if it's on a different console

Although tournaments really ought to stop running sf4 on ps3 at this point. At least the small ones that haven't already bought a ton of ps3s for previous years before we knew better.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 29 2012 15:07 GMT
#4494
what everyone wanna see: team thawk is at 1 hr 59 ^^

http://www.twitch.tv/kagecchi/b/326628994
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 29 2012 17:50 GMT
#4495
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3904/tierlist4.png

The current slightly incomplete matchup / tierlist.

Kind of interesting to say the least
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 18:01:00
July 29 2012 17:56 GMT
#4496
How hard is it to play Akuma? Shikyo's post is making me think of picking him up kekeke

P.S. Hakan is surprisingly high on the list, given what I know about him.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
July 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#4497
that list is odd. is it japanese? It doesnt list the characters as claw, boxer, dictator, so I'm not sure what it means.

I refuse to believe that chun li is anywhere near that high or gouken that low.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
July 29 2012 18:33 GMT
#4498
On July 30 2012 02:56 Nikon wrote:
How hard is it to play Akuma? Shikyo's post is making me think of picking him up kekeke

P.S. Hakan is surprisingly high on the list, given what I know about him.


A lot of top players have tried akuma at some point and just gave up. He is definitely one of the harder characters to learn because of so many different character specific set-ups, and set-ups are very important for Akuma.

You will fail. Especially since you are just picking up the game, presumably. You will fail hard.
Pulp can move, baby!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 00:51:59
July 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#4499
On July 30 2012 03:33 ahole-surprise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 02:56 Nikon wrote:
How hard is it to play Akuma? Shikyo's post is making me think of picking him up kekeke

P.S. Hakan is surprisingly high on the list, given what I know about him.


A lot of top players have tried akuma at some point and just gave up. He is definitely one of the harder characters to learn because of so many different character specific set-ups, and set-ups are very important for Akuma.

You will fail. Especially since you are just picking up the game, presumably. You will fail hard.

Kind of... But not really.

His BnB is incredibly easy, c.HP -> LK Tatsu -> Shoryuken already deals a ton of damage(way above average for punish BnB). His fireball zoning is great. As a beginning player, you can completely ignore getting pressured on wakeup better than anyone in the entire cast.

Also the mixups really aren't that difficult to begin with, you don't need to do crazy stuff at all. Footsies -> score a sweep -> demon flip -> opponent already has to play a rough guessing game. You don't really need to learn much more than the demon flip throw and the demon flip kick at the start, though it's nice to be able to do empty demon flip palm -> grab as well, still for a beginner player you can do a basic vortex very easily. Optionselecting sweep is pretty simple and an easy way to make those more dangerous as well.

He has the potential to be super dificult and advanced but as a beginner you can still make very good use of him. Fast walkspeed, superb pokes and the best fireballs in the game help with footsies and the demon flip okizeme works on the entire cast just fine. Also, again, he has the best get-out-of-jail freecard in the game and the shared best reversal in the game. I'd even say it's the very best Shoryuken because you can actually hitconfirm the FADC.

On July 30 2012 03:12 Trumpet wrote:
that list is odd. is it japanese? It doesnt list the characters as claw, boxer, dictator, so I'm not sure what it means.

I refuse to believe that chun li is anywhere near that high or gouken that low.

It's a community tier list. Apparently they take feedback from multiple high-level people who main the specific characters(I greatly prefer this over a single person making a tier list btw).

It's a match-up chart more than a tier list, you'd need to point out the matchups you have a problem with to make a good argument. Also some of the lower characters haven't been fully finished, that is when they went through Akuma they covered, say, Akuma vs Gouken from the Akuma players' perspective, when they get to Gouken they'll see what happens with that and if it needs to be changed and so on.


Again if you think Chun-Li shouldn't be that high you should point out the matchups that are incorrect, same with Gouken.


On the topic of Chun-Li:

0:58 ->





I mean, according to the Tier list Gouken only is worse than 4-6 against Blanka who he's 3-7 vs so you might want to start with that. You could additionally see which of the 4-6 matchups you don't agree with and so on. However the matchups between the lowtier characters are some months old.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
July 30 2012 00:50 GMT
#4500
I want to try akuma aswell.He seems cool.I like his mixups and runaway tactics.
I downloaded the tokida formula.It is 2 hours long pretty good video.Tokido is one of the best tokido players in the world explaninig basic and advanced akuma stuff in it.It is similar to Air s guide to ryu.I would recommend to watch it if you are new to akuma like me.
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