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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 25 2012 01:23 GMT
#4381
And even then you still have to respect wakeup ultras lol.

Or this happens:

Fan of the Jangbanger
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
July 25 2012 01:26 GMT
#4382
looool ^^
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 01:38:11
July 25 2012 01:36 GMT
#4383
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 25 2012 03:02 GMT
#4384
On July 25 2012 10:00 pachi wrote:
Juri can't just randomly ultra every game and get use out of it. Juri needs a knock down (corner preferable) to activate FSE safely and maximise its potential. Which is arguable harder for Juri to do than for viper to hit a combo which can lead into guaranteed ultra.

Blocking wakeup / punish ultras should not be a factor because you shouldn't be doing it. No one plans wakeup ultra as part of their game plan*. If you ever mess up a punish ultra/combo into ultra its not because the ultra is bad, its that you should fix execution or use a more practical setup. If you don't have setup for landing your ultra, learn a setup for landing your ultra.

*Unless you are Marn


ORZ MR.N DA BEST!
FADC
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 25 2012 03:10 GMT
#4385
On July 25 2012 12:02 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 10:00 pachi wrote:
Juri can't just randomly ultra every game and get use out of it. Juri needs a knock down (corner preferable) to activate FSE safely and maximise its potential. Which is arguable harder for Juri to do than for viper to hit a combo which can lead into guaranteed ultra.

Blocking wakeup / punish ultras should not be a factor because you shouldn't be doing it. No one plans wakeup ultra as part of their game plan*. If you ever mess up a punish ultra/combo into ultra its not because the ultra is bad, its that you should fix execution or use a more practical setup. If you don't have setup for landing your ultra, learn a setup for landing your ultra.

*Unless you are Marn


ORZ MR.N DA BEST!


Hell no. Stay free Marn.

Fan of the Jangbanger
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 03:48:53
July 25 2012 03:46 GMT
#4386

4:22

that option select *-* I think that that's how a good ultra should be, one that has utility uses instead of just damage increase.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 25 2012 04:29 GMT
#4387
On July 25 2012 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!


So are you going to main Juri?
FADC
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 25 2012 04:40 GMT
#4388
On July 25 2012 13:29 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!


So are you going to main Juri?

It's looking like Evil Ryu for now.

I'll re-evaluate after I get my stick in 1 hour, Juri is too difficult on keyboard.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 25 2012 05:13 GMT
#4389
On July 25 2012 13:40 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:29 rwrzr wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!


So are you going to main Juri?

It's looking like Evil Ryu for now.

I'll re-evaluate after I get my stick in 1 hour, Juri is too difficult on keyboard.


grats on getting a stick!


FADC
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 07:44:15
July 25 2012 07:17 GMT
#4390
On July 25 2012 14:13 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:40 Shikyo wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:29 rwrzr wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!


So are you going to main Juri?

It's looking like Evil Ryu for now.

I'll re-evaluate after I get my stick in 1 hour, Juri is too difficult on keyboard.


grats on getting a stick!



It's an Xbox 360 stick so I inserted it into my PCs usb socket right

And it registered only like half the button presses and directions kept getting stuck. I was almost ready to send it back until I decided to test another USB port in the front(I initially tested the back ports).

And now it's been working perfectly. What on earth?



Btw them tick-720s OP.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
July 25 2012 07:49 GMT
#4391
I remember having lots of trouble with my stick for PC when i first got it, can't remember what the problems were lol, but something happened and then it was magically fixed
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 25 2012 14:33 GMT
#4392
On July 25 2012 16:17 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 14:13 rwrzr wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:40 Shikyo wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:29 rwrzr wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:36 Shikyo wrote:
It's not optimal to use FSE without a knockdown but you can still do it pretty well, most people will want to use it after firing a fireball because with the dash you can close the distance right away and use the fireball almost like an Akuma fireball.

Wakeup ultra isn't that good but at least Latif I've seen doing it multiple times and it's also pretty strong on Oni and Akuma(and more but I'm more familiar with these). It's pretty risky though unless it's against a late safejump, in those cases it's almost a freewin. Still unless it's a 3 frame ult you can safejump it(It's too bad that Akumas Shoryuken makes everyone not jump on his wakeup or his ultra would be way better as a wakeup option)


Also after 10 hours in a row of grinding the same freaking stupid lameass combo I now can do the 1 frame link like 30 times in a row. Practice makes perfect!


So are you going to main Juri?

It's looking like Evil Ryu for now.

I'll re-evaluate after I get my stick in 1 hour, Juri is too difficult on keyboard.


grats on getting a stick!



It's an Xbox 360 stick so I inserted it into my PCs usb socket right

And it registered only like half the button presses and directions kept getting stuck. I was almost ready to send it back until I decided to test another USB port in the front(I initially tested the back ports).

And now it's been working perfectly. What on earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfzuO91LLyc

Btw them tick-720s OP.


You need this driver for some PCs to work correctly.

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/xbox-360-controller-for-windows
FADC
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
July 26 2012 00:13 GMT
#4393
Would anyone mind recommending me some good, affordable sticks for PS3/PC? I play SC5 and SF4, and plan to use it for TT2 and Doa5 as well. Thanks in advance !
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 00:46:51
July 26 2012 00:23 GMT
#4394
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arcade-Fighting-Stick-USB-Universal-NEW-PS2-PS3-PC-/380457681569?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo=SIC&its=I&itu=UCI%2BIA%2BUA%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=320450643650&ps=54

#Kappa

On a serious note, with sticks you get what you pay for, and all the decent sticks are $100+ unless you could find a cheap one on craiglist or ebay or you mod it yourself. And at that point it's really a matter of preference. Madcatz, 8arc, Hori, Qanba, they all have sticks for all the ports and for the most part they all use parts from the same big names manufacturer anyways. What probably matters most is the feel, and that is your personal liking

Current popular sticks right now are:

Madcatz TE - Probably the most battle tested stick out there. You could drop a bomb on this thing and the shit will not break. Most people will say this thing worths every cent they paid for it.

Hori Real Arcade Pro VX SA - Probably the cheapest Hori stick you use that's tourney worthy (Hori also sells cheaper sticks at around $50 and up, but people have stories), and probably the cheapest stick you can buy fresh from stock. Contains Sanwa parts, which is good and durable

EightArc Fusion - Feels good, looks good, durable, but goddamn these things are expensive ($180+ brand new). Probably don't wanna touch these.

Qanba Q4 - These are real nice. They came duo modded, and they have all the little extra features that makes your life easier. At $150+ (depending on the color you want), they're a nice buy.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 26 2012 00:33 GMT
#4395
Amazhing, I found some locals who play this game(And UMVC3) and I'll go there this sunday ^-^

I'm going to fail horribly though because I still fail at using my new stick but at least I'll be gaining some live experience.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
July 26 2012 00:40 GMT
#4396
Yeah, I've been looking at the SoulCal5 MC and Hori sticks and want to decide between them, I've read they're both high quality. Am I going about this ok? And any good retailers to buy from or just amazon/ebay/local game store?
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
July 26 2012 02:08 GMT
#4397
I recently bought Hori soul calibur V stick.It uses sanwa stick and buttons.It s heavy huge and friggin awesome!
日本語が上手ですね
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
July 26 2012 02:52 GMT
#4398
I was leaning on that one because of visual appearance and it's good to hear that it's awesome ;P do you know if it's compatible with PC?
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
July 26 2012 03:03 GMT
#4399
To anyone looking to buy a stick, get this one while its on sale.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874179013&cm_sp=recommend-_-74-179-013-_-07252012_1
Living the liefe
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 03:15:51
July 26 2012 03:08 GMT
#4400
Omg the exact stick we're talking about! The other one is still $160 so this made the decision pretty clear. Thanks all who replied ! ! <3

Edit: Why is the PS3 one $10 more -____- oh well.
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
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