EPTsorry if the community is too exciting for u
edit: lol that NCR bit
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
sorry if the community is too exciting for u edit: lol that NCR bit | ||
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Zlasher
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
I just transitioned from a controller (dual shock 3) to a hori wireless arcade 3 stick (best I could find around here). I'm finding holding a stick to be much more comfortable, however as expected the transition is often frustrating since I need to make my muscle memory learn everything again. Any tips on how to have a faster transition? | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On June 19 2011 19:17 Lucumo wrote: Nobody? But I just used it, so that's at least one. Japan, for me, is the fighting scene because they own in the games they take seriously. And no, MvC3 isn't taken seriously. SSF4:AE>BB:CS2>AH3 and other games like that. Why would he need to go to that event? Just because it's 6 hours shorter or because he knows the location? Maybe he wanted to check out ReveLAtions' location, or maybe he wanted to make both events a success or maybe Mago had influence as well(both are on the same team after all and always travelling alone isn't too awesome). That makes sense as well. Huh? What? It's because of the incident in Season's Beatings V: Redemption(October 16, 2010). I didn't compare anything? Ok, I did compare the Japanese and the American fighting scene but not any Starcraft scene, heck, I don't even care about SC2(only BW). You're making retarded assumptions though. Why travel further to an event that offers less money? You think oGsMC should fly to america for a 500 dollar local LAN because he should help the community that way? Fuck off. Mago was confirmed WAY after Daigo was, so no, that doesn't have to do with it either. Mago only JUST joined Madcatz during the event, and they traveled separately (Mago showed up a day after Daigo did). On June 19 2011 21:26 Trumpet wrote: I hate the "they own every game they take seriously" argument. It's pure bull shit that makes an automatic excuse any time a JP player loses. Different areas play different games. Using Japanese doujin fighters as examples of them dominating is about as meaningful as Americans claiming dominance because of MK9. Japan didn't dominate Season's Beatings, Final Round, or Socal Regionals. Their absolute best players have been able to win some majors here, but not all. In Super, when they didn't have the huge arcade advantage that vanilla SF4 and AE have, the results were much more mixed (Daigo didn't even make top 16 at Season's beatings). Besides SF4, top JP players have been beaten at evo in ST and CvS2 also (games they "took seriously"). Japan takes Tekken seriously, but Korea is definitely the top in that game as well, and almost always has been. Lastly, djWheat nailed the whole "professionalism" thing a while ago. Truth here. Tokido got his shit wrecked at Final Round. Last year at SCR Champ blew him up. Put out a game that is a worldwide release and not arcade release and we compete just fine with the japanese. On June 19 2011 23:14 Lucumo wrote: Tekken is even less important than AH3 but there are, of course, really good players. And like I said, it's not common that the best players fly to another country to compete in the game. There is also always the issue with work. People play a lot when they are in school, right? But when school is over and work starts, well, then they don't have much time anymore. They still own and play after work is over(in the arcade centers(and that's why they are so popular)) but have rarely time for tournaments, even when it's in Japan. Didn't read it and probably won't. Professionalism is only existent in BW and certainly not in fighting games. Nonetheless, commentators should try to be at least somewhat professional and not act like monkeys or taunt players etc. And once again your lack of knowledge is showing. At SBO, guess which game is biggest, by a country mile. Its Tekken, but oh I guess people don't care about Tekken in Japan huh. On June 20 2011 01:38 Wesso wrote: How do you make half/full circle motions on a keyboard? It's not that I don't believe you, but I can't imagine a way to do it fast enough. You can make half circle motions faster on a keyboard than on an arcade stick, you just put yoru three fingers on left down and forward and spam across them, and theres your half circle... Full circle motions are only on grapplers, and on there yes its very hard to do, but you can do QC, DP , and HC motions faster on keyboard. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On June 20 2011 06:46 DragoonPK wrote: Hey TL, I just transitioned from a controller (dual shock 3) to a hori wireless arcade 3 stick (best I could find around here). I'm finding holding a stick to be much more comfortable, however as expected the transition is often frustrating since I need to make my muscle memory learn everything again. Any tips on how to have a faster transition? Training mode, over and over and over and over x1000000000 again. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On June 20 2011 06:46 DragoonPK wrote: Hey TL, I just transitioned from a controller (dual shock 3) to a hori wireless arcade 3 stick (best I could find around here). I'm finding holding a stick to be much more comfortable, however as expected the transition is often frustrating since I need to make my muscle memory learn everything again. Any tips on how to have a faster transition? do trials, they'll get your muscle memory good | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 20 2011 06:46 Zlasher wrote: You're making retarded assumptions though. Why travel further to an event that offers less money? You think oGsMC should fly to america for a 500 dollar local LAN because he should help the community that way? Fuck off. Mago was confirmed WAY after Daigo was, so no, that doesn't have to do with it either. Mago only JUST joined Madcatz during the event, and they traveled separately (Mago showed up a day after Daigo did). Lol, no. I misunderstood(or rather misread) your post and was confused because of that. Heh, but we are agreeing then, right? I mean, I was defending Daigo's decision to go to Revelations or rather I think it was stupid/immature of the CEO tournament organizer to act the way he did. Funnily enough, you misread my post as well. And no idea who "oGsMC" is. You mean they announced it right before the event started. That doesn't mean Mago didn't know that he would become part of the team. The separate travelling would imply otherwise though but then again, Mago had something to do while Tokido and Daigo were already away. So who knows, it was only one possibility anyway. On June 20 2011 06:46 Zlasher wrote: And once again your lack of knowledge is showing. At SBO, guess which game is biggest, by a country mile. Its Tekken, but oh I guess people don't care about Tekken in Japan huh. "Once again", what? You were the one who spread bs about Daigo's headphones. And you said I'm comparing the SC2 and the fighting scene which wasn't true at all. Yeah, Tekken is big. It's even so big that it won't be played on Tougeki 2011(as I already wrote). And I wrote: Tekken is even less important than AH3 but there are, of course, really good players. Where did I say that the people don't care? And why do I even explain it properly when people are too lazy to read it? The discussion is pointless anyway because it's a fact that some commentators and the crowd are bashing Japanese players/are bad mannered. There is no point in saying that they are the community/that xyz event is even worse/etc. Anyway, you (guys) should get back to discussing combos and stuff. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On June 20 2011 02:20 rawbertson wrote: Anyone notice M Bison and Vega got ridiculous buffs... was playing against my brother... i can still beat him with vega but him using M bison was just insane. i was using guile and you cant even flash kick bison out of headstomp, thats fucking ridiculous if you ask me. I had to really dig deep to be able to beat him. Guile's regular flashkick is pretty terrible for anything that's not an angled, high-up floaty jump-in, and you should mainly only use it in combos because it trades or loses frequently to lots of stuff. His EX flashkick is good and you can use that a little more safely by waiting until the opponent gets a little closer to the ground (when it has invincibility). In all other situations you should use either his s.mk or c.hp or air throw for anti-air. Guile is a ridiculously hard matchup for Bison because he basically has no way to get in, and if you're losing to Bison then you're doing something fundamentally wrong. You should be throwing Booms constantly and try not to give up ground by letting yourself get pushed into the corner. Anti-air jump-ins like I described. The only way Bison can really get in is by a psychic EX scissor (unsafe on block and Booms recover super fast) or EX psycho crusher (throw after you block, either you throw him or it techs and you create some more space to work with). To deal with headstomp specifically you can just jump up and air throw him before the stomp comes out. Also pay attention to his meter, if his meter increases when he leaves the ground (and he makes the "hup!" noise) then it's a headstomp and it's beatable by air throw, well-timed c.hp, or just focus absorb it and dash forward to the opposite side of a skullcrusher follow-up, then throw upon his landing. If his meter doesn't increase then it's a devil's reverse (doesn't gain meter until he holds his hand out) which you can focus attack and punish with a combo, or just antiair with c.hp if the attack angle permits it. I don't think Bison actually got any buffs in this version? His s.hk does less damage at the tip of the leg, his U2 input got changed for the worse, and his LK scissor pushes him back further, and those are all nerfs (except the last one is debatable because smart Bisons can work out how to use that to his advantage). He should still be fairly easy for Guile players. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On June 20 2011 07:17 Lucumo wrote: Yeah, Tekken is big. It's even so big that it won't be played on Tougeki 2011(as I already wrote). And I wrote: Where did I say that the people don't care? And why do I even explain it properly when people are too lazy to read it? tekken is the #1 arcade game in japan by far, every time arcadia releases charts it's usually #1 or somewhere close to there the reason it's not going to be in SBO is because they originally planned on having TTT2 there but development is obviously not done tougeki doesn't consider console at all. it's an arcade tournament, sponsored by an arcade magazine, designed to promote arcade gaming. there are a lot of differences in japan/korea/usa communities, but japan has been the slowest to adapt to a professional scene. madcatz signing daigo was monumental and made waves in the japanese community because they finally saw a way to monetize their hobby. japan's gambling laws prohibit arcade tournaments from having cash prizes unless they jump through a lot of hoops. fyi people cheer against japan in tournaments because they got that usa love, but they love the japanese players and often ask for autographs/pictures during events and treat them really well there's also a ton of shit talking in japanese tournaments but since you don't understand it, it just sounds like they're yelling | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
But yeah it was ridiculous of Jebailey to make those comments about Daigo. The japanese players shouldn't have to care about flying to the US to "grow the community" In the end they show up to the events that have the money for them to go and take it for. Tournament Legacy allows for that to happen, not CEO (yet). | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 21 2011 04:01 kainzero wrote: tekken is the #1 arcade game in japan by far, every time arcadia releases charts it's usually #1 or somewhere close to there the reason it's not going to be in SBO is because they originally planned on having TTT2 there but development is obviously not done tougeki doesn't consider console at all. it's an arcade tournament, sponsored by an arcade magazine, designed to promote arcade gaming. there are a lot of differences in japan/korea/usa communities, but japan has been the slowest to adapt to a professional scene. madcatz signing daigo was monumental and made waves in the japanese community because they finally saw a way to monetize their hobby. japan's gambling laws prohibit arcade tournaments from having cash prizes unless they jump through a lot of hoops. fyi people cheer against japan in tournaments because they got that usa love, but they love the japanese players and often ask for autographs/pictures during events and treat them really well there's also a ton of shit talking in japanese tournaments but since you don't understand it, it just sounds like they're yelling Like I said: On June 20 2011 01:12 Lucumo wrote: Anyway, there are several reasons why it's mainly an arcade game but who cares, it wasn't the topic. And it's certainly not the #1 arcade game "by far". It's not like the BB games or the latest SFs are that far behind and at the moment, the Gundam vs. game is doing even better. I know about TTT2 but I made a mistake that I didn't explicitly write "Tekken 6" because I was responding to Trumpet's post. Hmm, yeah, but they could have replaced it with Tekken 6 in my opinion but didn't opt to do so even though it's big but still not big enough to justify a change of plans. I was only talking about the way everyone acts, behaves and so on. Sponsors etc didn't play a role and I don't intend to write about that or the general things. Depends on the people and the nice ones aren't loud and annoying and this is the problem. And I wrote about that one incident earlier already. I've never heard Japanese commentators saying something against foreigners while they are playing and I've never heard any talk about women etc either...or the crowd being totally obnoxious. And if such things happened, in what tournament took it place? On June 21 2011 04:38 Zlasher wrote: Tekken isn't in SBO because they thought TTT2 would be out by then, but its not so they dropped it out, when TTT2 is out, it'll probably, once again, have the most entries (even though I Hate the game, its just the truth of the matter). But yeah it was ridiculous of Jebailey to make those comments about Daigo. The japanese players shouldn't have to care about flying to the US to "grow the community" In the end they show up to the events that have the money for them to go and take it for. Tournament Legacy allows for that to happen, not CEO (yet). That's what he just wrote. Do you mean entries for the qualifiers or the spots in the tournament? I mean, many people try to qualify more than one time, so the number can't be verified without doing some work. And Street Fighter has usually more than one series, so they beat Tekken anyway  And yes, I don't like Tekken either(3 was ok though). He also said he will crush Revelations next time(again) should it be on the same day. People in such a position shouldn't make these kind of comments, same with the commentators and that is one big problem I have(and other people as well). Ah, and Tokido won't participate in this year's Tougeki. I kind of wish there was a 1v1 tournament because some players aren't into teams and so a lot of really good players are staying at home. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
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SayaSP
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Demoninja
United States1190 Posts
On June 21 2011 07:45 Excalibur_Z wrote: Why are we derailing the thread with political nonsense and petty drama? Let's get back to how blatantly overpowered Yun is. Yun is a piece of shit. Fuck him. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Can I get a decent stick on the cheap (<$100) anywhere online? I can't find anything anywhere in town, and sticks online are all either really expensive with tons of shipping costs, unavailable outside the US, or really shady looking. So hopefully someone knows where to find a good budget stick for a Canadian ^.^ If not I'll just have to shell out the big bucks for a proper TE or something and hope I end up liking it. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On June 21 2011 09:57 numLoCK wrote: A question for the Canadian gamers out there: Can I get a decent stick on the cheap (<$100) anywhere online? I can't find anything anywhere in town, and sticks online are all either really expensive with tons of shipping costs, unavailable outside the US, or really shady looking. So hopefully someone knows where to find a good budget stick for a Canadian ^.^ If not I'll just have to shell out the big bucks for a proper TE or something and hope I end up liking it. Events like NCR have Mad Catz promotions all the time usually with significant savings (like $99 or cheaper TE sticks). What you should be able to do is get someone in the US to buy you one at the discounted rate, you Paypal him, then he ships it over to you. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On June 21 2011 09:57 numLoCK wrote: A question for the Canadian gamers out there: Can I get a decent stick on the cheap (<$100) anywhere online? I can't find anything anywhere in town, and sticks online are all either really expensive with tons of shipping costs, unavailable outside the US, or really shady looking. So hopefully someone knows where to find a good budget stick for a Canadian ^.^ If not I'll just have to shell out the big bucks for a proper TE or something and hope I end up liking it. From what I'm aware canada cup is the only place that sells them new, so you won't get them under 100 at all lol, it'll cost you probably 100-150 used. Heres a link to where CCG sells it: http://canadacupgaming.myshopify.com/ I know that they're like, the only official redistributor by madcatz in canada, since they always talk about it on their streams. If you live near Edmonton I'd try to talk to people on SRK about it, or even go on SRK's site itself to try to find a seller that'll ship to canada, or go to a live event sponsored by madcatz (canada cup in november-ish) and they'll sell them at the event. Even when theres are 25% off codes, it only applies to PS3 TE's and will still run 120 bucks from madcatz directly, not including shipping, that you'd have to pay someone from the US to ship you it for. Your best bet is ebay, if not SRK forums. Or build your own from an SE and getting sanwa parts. On June 21 2011 10:00 Myrmidon wrote: On the stream it was said that (according to the man himself) Daigo never dropped a round versus Dhalsim before in AE. Yeah Champ is the first one | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 21 2011 07:45 Excalibur_Z wrote: Why are we derailing the thread with political nonsense and petty drama? Let's get back to how blatantly overpowered Yun is. Yun is no match for my lariat spam :S That, and how 2 heavy spds=half health missing | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On June 21 2011 12:20 101toss wrote: Yun is no match for my lariat spam :S That, and how 2 heavy spds=half health missing You say that, but Yun's pokes are pretty amazing and can keep Gief out surprisingly well. I play Gief and Sakura and although Yun couldn't really get all over me like he could playing Sak, it was still pretty rough trying to get in as Gief. The way Daigo was complaining about the Yun/Gief matchup a few months ago, you would have thought that all you have to do is mindlessly walk forward and win, but it's quite a struggle to beat a good Yun player. | ||
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