I think slk xx lp lunge is used in situations where s.lp will whiff (opp isn't very close). Not totally sure at all but I think s.lk extends further out than s.lp. So it's not possible to do s.lp -> s.mp -> special. I guess anytime slk -> lp lunge can be used s.mp -> target combo can probably also work but it's a slightly harder as slk is 3 frame and smp is 4 right?

clk clk clk slk lunge again, is because I think clk clk clk slp will whiff.

Anyone know about stun data and what special does the most stun? (lunge/shoudler/upkicks) Would be useful to know which one to go for if we feel the opp is close to stun, since Yun has suchhhh damaging combos after stun (EX palm -> shoulder -> lunge or palm -> launcher -> ultra/EX upkicks in corner).

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

June 18 2011 08:42 GMT

#342

ill post the stun numbers tomorrow, i can check in training mode cuz i'll be grinding some execution stuff anyway

also why would you do c.lk x3 s.lp -_- if you do c.lk c.lp s.lp, the s.mp xx rh upkicks will never ever ever ever miss, ever. and s.mp reaches farther than any of your light attacks, so even though it's a frame slower (4 frames is still really fucking fast, u sure that's accurate?) it should definitely be the move you punish with, either into target combo or a special. definitely better than s.lk xx lp lunge

exalted

United States3612 Posts

June 18 2011 08:50 GMT

#343

It's used for those situations where they're blocking and you're going into a blockstring, but you catch them standing or doing something on the 3rd lk. If you don't catch anything then you might do

clk clk clk cmk smk (I think the clk and cmk acts as a frame trap as it isn't a combo)

Also: what blockstrings continue to put pressure on the opponent? I tend to use c.lk c.lk s.lp s.mp lp shoulder as my standard blockstring, but despite the good meter gain it pushes me away, forcing me to get in again. Will try things like c.lp c.lk s.lp s.mp -> lp palm / mp palm - anything else?

Seems like the proper way to play Yun is to get close, get these blockstrings, palm for meter, and then focus on getting maximum (Genei-Jin) when you actually do hit.

sung_moon

United States10110 Posts

June 18 2011 14:32 GMT

#344

On June 18 2011 17:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
s.lk xx lp lunge is a stupid punish, if you're close enough to hit one of yun's 3 frame light attacks, just do [2 or 3 light attacks ending in s.lp], s.mp xx rh upkicks every time, it's more damage.

might be a good footsie tool though, i'm not too familiar with the hitbox on yun's s.lk (yang's is fucking good), but buffering lp lunge into it and hanging out where they're just outside the range of your kick is probably pretty strong. it depends on the hitbox of his s.lk, if it reaches far and is hard to whiff punish like yang's you can probably fuck some people up. negative edge can be a bitch when you're trying to buffer specials into 3 frame light attacks though lolol

edit: shit, you're right Lucumo!!!! fixed

and the truth is out (as if it wasn't obv. enough)

new cammy links are pretty kewl btw.

edit: i've seen s.LK lunge punch as a bait punish by daigo over at revelations. i don't remember what he did b4 it, but i def. remember seeing it. lemme go and find

at about 4:40, after a blocked j. shoulder, he punishes the baited ibuki c.mk with s.LK. seems pretty good hanging outside of footsies range and buffering it to catch a limb.

Toolshed

337 Posts

June 18 2011 16:28 GMT

#345

Has anyone ever played a fighting game on pc? What's it like? Are there any informations about the PC port for ss4ea?

I really enjoy watching those YT videos and I kinda want to get into fighting games but I'm afraid that lag or something will ruin it for me.

Do you connect to console gamers or are you forced to play only against those who have the pc version? Also how big of an issue is lag? I imagine that every ms matters for blocks etc. so how does lag affect your gameplay?

Adeny

Norway1233 Posts

June 18 2011 17:07 GMT

#346

On June 19 2011 01:28 Toolshed wrote:
Has anyone ever played a fighting game on pc? What's it like? Are there any informations about the PC port for ss4ea?

I really enjoy watching those YT videos and I kinda want to get into fighting games but I'm afraid that lag or something will ruin it for me.

Do you connect to console gamers or are you forced to play only against those who have the pc version? Also how big of an issue is lag? I imagine that every ms matters for blocks etc. so how does lag affect your gameplay?

As far as SF4 goes, there's an outdated version on the PC, but no one plays it. You should go hit up GGPO.net, and download 3rd strike, it's set to re-release for the xbox / ps3 soon, so get to practicing.

Toolshed

337 Posts

June 18 2011 17:30 GMT

#347

On June 19 2011 02:07 Adeny wrote:

Show nested quote +

Isn't the Arcade Edition of SF4 coming out on july? And is there a reason why the PC version of SF4 isn't as popular as the xbox / ps3 version? And is this also likely to happen to SF4AE? I assume cross platform gaming (xbox vs pc) isn't supported than?

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

June 18 2011 17:33 GMT

#348

Its not as popular because its Vanilla SF4, and because people cheated/hacked the leaderboard.

AE comes out in July yes, and it should be much more popular, Thats where I'll be playing it for sure.

Wesso

Netherlands1245 Posts

June 18 2011 17:34 GMT

#349

On June 19 2011 02:30 Toolshed wrote:

Isn't the Arcade Edition of SF4 coming out on july? And is there a reason why the PC version of SF4 isn't as popular as the xbox / ps3 version? And is this also likely to happen to SF4AE? I assume cross platform gaming (xbox vs pc) isn't supported than?

Yes, Yes (you can't play with keyboard and not many people have decent controllers), Yes, No

philoernic

Canada18 Posts

June 18 2011 17:48 GMT

#350

so i heard you are talking about yun
here is some stuff I know
my combos
bnb: c.lp c.lk. s.lp s.mp rh.upkicks
dive kick combo: divekick, c.lp c.lk. s.lp s.mp rh.upkicks
dive kick combo (short hit confirm): divekick c.lp s.lp c.mp s.mp rh.upkicks (more damge)
punisher: c.mp c.mp s.mp rh.upkicks
dirty: c.lp c.lk. s.lp s.mp lk.shoulder, super
footsie /gimmicks
command grab setup: (stuff), divekick, c.lp , ex.grab, c.mp, s.mp, rh.upkicks
(stuff) lp.palms, ex.grab, c.mp, s.mp, rh.upkicks
ultra 1 setup: ex.lunge, ultra 1, hp.lunge
divekick stuff: neutral jump.mk (fake dive)
cross up w/ lk.divekick
footsie: s.lk buffer lp.lunge
c.mk buffer mp.lunge
s.mp, s.hp
counterhit setups: +frame dive c.mp

thats all ive got, still alot to learn but thats enough for anyone looking to start practicing yun
glhf

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 18 2011 18:07 GMT

#351

I don't get why people are choosing to do c.lp c.lk s.lp as opposed to c.lk c.lp s.lp. c.lk hits low while c.lp does not. The only time to start with c.lp is after a blocked ex lunge or something to counterhit the opponent mashing jab or cr.tech.

Ending with rh upkicks against everyone is not a good idea since it will whiff on some people, most notably it will whiff on shotos after that string.

Check page 8 for Yun info.

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

June 18 2011 18:25 GMT

#352

On June 19 2011 02:34 Wesso wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yes, Yes (you can't play with keyboard and not many people have decent controllers), Yes, No

Wait what, yes you can play with keyboards on PC o.o

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 18 2011 18:44 GMT

#353

http://www.justin.tv/iplaywinner#/w/1353150496

NCR stream went live a little while ago. AE teams running right now.

Lucumo

6850 Posts

June 18 2011 18:53 GMT

#354

Is Daigo in one of the teams?

On June 18 2011 23:32 sung_moon wrote:
and the truth is out (as if it wasn't obv. enough)

I know but I was waiting for a good opportunity to mention it.

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 18 2011 19:09 GMT

#355

http://challonge.com/ncr9sf4teams

I don't think Daigo's in a team.

Lucumo

6850 Posts

June 18 2011 19:24 GMT

#356

Thanks, thought as much =/ Guess I will only tune in for the singles then.

ain

Germany786 Posts

June 18 2011 20:50 GMT

#357

On June 19 2011 02:07 Adeny wrote:

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There's plenty of people still playing, me included. Depending on your system PCs have less input delay than consoles, lag is the same as consoles.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

June 18 2011 21:26 GMT

#358

On June 18 2011 17:38 exalted wrote:
Anyone know about stun data and what special does the most stun? (lunge/shoudler/upkicks) Would be useful to know which one to go for if we feel the opp is close to stun, since Yun has suchhhh damaging combos after stun (EX palm -> shoulder -> lunge or palm -> launcher -> ultra/EX upkicks in corner).

shoulder: 200 stun, EX 250 stun
lunge punch: 150 stun, EX 200 stun
upkicks: lk & mk 150 stun, rh & EX 200 stun
palm: 250 stun, EX 300 stun

your best stun punishes are s.mp xx lp shoulder (300) or s.mp xx EX shoulder (350). all other options do less stun, or need a meter to break 300, in which case EX shoulder wins anyway. if you're in range for c.mp, then c.mp s.mp xx EX shoulder does 400 stun