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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-01 23:15:03
October 01 2021 23:14 GMT
#1001
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.

Just keep summoning clay golem facing away from the skeletons, and make sure to decrep diablo.

Might take a couple tp's to grab more skeletons if there aren't enough bodies lying around, but otherwise they should be fairly durable against most spells not lightning inferno.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-01 23:24:50
October 01 2021 23:16 GMT
#1002
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.


I only ever use IM on skelemancer for normal Duriel (later when I respec I get rid of all curses except amp). Diablo was much easier to do with just bone spear + kiting. Faster than doing IM+golem on him and relatively easy just kiting and spamming spears (need a lot of potions though).

Baal was easier but annoying. Skellies got him down to about half health before they disappeared and I'm a lazy bastard so I just finished him with golem and merc.

On October 02 2021 08:14 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.

Just keep summoning clay golem facing away from the skeletons, and make sure to decrep diablo.

Might take a couple tp's to grab more skeletons if there aren't enough bodies lying around, but otherwise they should be fairly durable against most spells not lightning inferno.


Heh, the first time I summoned Diablo he wiped all my skellies and myself before I even laid eyes on him. He sometimes spams his AoE fire ring nuke in rapid succession which caught me off guard.

Edit: I'm also super proud of my amazing low-level zealot.

Crown with +5% attack rating and 15% fhr
Long sword with "Steel"
Light plate with "Stealth"
Steelclash
Light plate boots with +20% r/w
Light plate gauntlets with +10% ias
set ring with 6% lifesteal
ring with 4% lifesteal and +16% res
amulet with +5 str and +6% all res
heavy belt with 24% fhr

All in all he's a true king at level 17 Shared stash FTW.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 02 2021 05:04 GMT
#1003
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.


What do you mean by nonbugged boss?
-.-
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8871 Posts
October 02 2021 13:49 GMT
#1004
has anyone else had issues with smite missing a lot or is it just me?
i cant tell if its desync, lag or a bug because smite isnt supposed to miss. example scenario: im 1v1ing a stupid fallen and my pally is air swinging
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-02 16:48:02
October 02 2021 16:47 GMT
#1005
On October 02 2021 14:04 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.


What do you mean by nonbugged boss?

i suppose as opposed to bugged mephisto who'd just sit in a corner and do nothing, only boss i know can be bugged/stuck
which would be great to fix btw : P
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 02 2021 18:09 GMT
#1006
On October 02 2021 22:49 evilfatsh1t wrote:
has anyone else had issues with smite missing a lot or is it just me?
i cant tell if its desync, lag or a bug because smite isnt supposed to miss. example scenario: im 1v1ing a stupid fallen and my pally is air swinging


What is your weapon? Your weapon choice decides range of Smite. If you hit very fast twice with short range you will miss second one because out of range.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Smite
-.-
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-03 06:43:01
October 03 2021 06:39 GMT
#1007
Found a Mara's today! 25 resistance so exactly average but it's super cool. Probably my first kinda rare drop at the start of a season.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
October 03 2021 14:10 GMT
#1008
On October 02 2021 08:16 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.


I only ever use IM on skelemancer for normal Duriel (later when I respec I get rid of all curses except amp). Diablo was much easier to do with just bone spear + kiting. Faster than doing IM+golem on him and relatively easy just kiting and spamming spears (need a lot of potions though).

Baal was easier but annoying. Skellies got him down to about half health before they disappeared and I'm a lazy bastard so I just finished him with golem and merc.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2021 08:14 Amui wrote:
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.

Just keep summoning clay golem facing away from the skeletons, and make sure to decrep diablo.

Might take a couple tp's to grab more skeletons if there aren't enough bodies lying around, but otherwise they should be fairly durable against most spells not lightning inferno.


Heh, the first time I summoned Diablo he wiped all my skellies and myself before I even laid eyes on him. He sometimes spams his AoE fire ring nuke in rapid succession which caught me off guard.

Edit: I'm also super proud of my amazing low-level zealot.

Crown with +5% attack rating and 15% fhr
Long sword with "Steel"
Light plate with "Stealth"
Steelclash
Light plate boots with +20% r/w
Light plate gauntlets with +10% ias
set ring with 6% lifesteal
ring with 4% lifesteal and +16% res
amulet with +5 str and +6% all res
heavy belt with 24% fhr

All in all he's a true king at level 17 Shared stash FTW.

I don't think I had a somewhat levelled bone spear at the time, probably skilled badly.

On October 02 2021 14:04 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.


What do you mean by nonbugged boss?

I wasn't referring to Diablo specifically, I've had bosses get stuck in multiple games. I usually load my last save when that happens, but in some games restarting is a pain in the ass or I'm super frustrated and was on a very good try when they get stuck.
low gravity, yes-yes!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 03 2021 16:35 GMT
#1009
Really hope this announce ladder starting this week, would really suck if it was around the same time as next poe league
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
October 03 2021 17:48 GMT
#1010
On October 03 2021 23:10 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

I don't think I had a somewhat levelled bone spear at the time, probably skilled badly.


I didn't have BS skilled at all, I only used the skill from the wand and it's relatively easy to get +2 or +3 BS wand from Drognan on normal - just find the map where exit from Lut Gholein is next to him and reset his inventory by going in and out of town. Shouldn't take more than 15 minutes to find a decent wand to kill Diablo with.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 03 2021 20:48 GMT
#1011
is there an option to show amount of sockets while item is still on the ground?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 04 2021 05:55 GMT
#1012
Officially, no.

If you play SP I’m sure u could find an item filter that displays it. Blizz’s stance on item filters is still cloudy which is why I wouldnt suggest u try it on multiplayer.
Skol
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 04 2021 19:27 GMT
#1013
I’m curious if the dev team will update PC’s button mapping(to how console is done) so that we aren’t slaved to left click right click. Would make playing hammerdin or kicksin easier on the arthritis and carpal tunnel. We’re old men now.
Skol
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-04 19:34:12
October 04 2021 19:33 GMT
#1014
Yeah they shouldn't allow any addons online unless specifically supported cause that opens the door to a lot of cheats. It's better to implement the feature into the game. Still looking good and hopeful with the anti cheat from what I'm seeing. There is still that screen freeze that can kill any HC char at any time that needs fixing before ladder I hope.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
October 05 2021 00:42 GMT
#1015
On October 04 2021 02:48 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2021 23:10 Archeon wrote:
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

I don't think I had a somewhat levelled bone spear at the time, probably skilled badly.


I didn't have BS skilled at all, I only used the skill from the wand and it's relatively easy to get +2 or +3 BS wand from Drognan on normal - just find the map where exit from Lut Gholein is next to him and reset his inventory by going in and out of town. Shouldn't take more than 15 minutes to find a decent wand to kill Diablo with.

Thanks! Yeah merchant optimization is one of the cool things that can make a huge difference in d2 and where I can always learn a little more.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
October 05 2021 09:31 GMT
#1016
Yeah. Took me a bit longer to find my wand as I was looking specifically for +3 Bone Spear non-enchanted bone wand with 2 sockets (or just plain one that I could socket later since it'll get exactly 2 sockets from Larzuk for the White rune word).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-06 07:13:12
October 06 2021 07:05 GMT
#1017
On October 02 2021 07:51 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2021 20:06 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, I forgot what a chore it was to kill Diablo on normal as summonmancer. Thankfully I got my +3 bone spear wand earlier that I want to convert into White down the line...

Yeah diablo will just burn your skellis a lot. He did so again on nightmare when I played Nec.
I had to kill him with golem+IM, which was probably the dumbest way I've ever killed a nonbugged boss. Can not recommend, felt like hours.

I made a summonmancer for the first time and I found that out the hard way. My merc, skellis and golem just melted instantly. I revived my merc a few times and realized it wasn't going to work. I ended up just shopping an IM wand
and stockpiled a ton of potions. Tedious but it does work...
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-06 09:51:51
October 06 2021 09:35 GMT
#1018
Normal Players-1 Diablo fire ring vs one skeleton (and myself):

https://pastebin.com/raw/gwM9zqf5

s=softpoint (item skill)
RS SM SR S-HP ME-HP(0fres)

20s 0 0% 0%/200 62/200
20s 0 52%s 0%/200 133/200
20s 0 74%s 40%/200 144/200
20s 20s 0% 85%/360 130/200
20s 15s 0% 80%/320 135/200
20s 10s 0% 75%/280 122/200
20s 5s 0% 45%/240 127/200
20s 2s 0% 30%/215 ***/200
20s 0s 0% 0%/200 137/200
5s 20s 0% 40%/202 140/200
2s 20s 0% 0%/180 129/200
10s 20s 0% 70%/254 141/200
15s 20s 0% 80%/307 124/200
20s 20s 0% 85%/360 135/200

Make what you want out of it.. Its just weird xD

So with 20 RS + 0 SM, skeleton always died. I.E fire ring did more than 200 dmg.

With 20 RS + 20 SM, skeleton took .15*360= 54 dmg.

And this without any Summon Resist to its disposal.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Skeleton_Mastery

At SM lvl 20 Skeletons without RS have 160 HP.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Raise_Skeleton

"+ Life from Skeleton Mastery is applied before +% Life from Raise Skeleton itself. Skill description incorrectly calculates total Life by applying + Life from Skeleton Mastery after +% Life from Raise Skeleton."

At RS lvl 20 it gives +850% Life.

160*9.5= 1520 HP. Subtracting 15% dmg from that: 228 dmg does the fire ring against Skeletons.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Act_4_Summary_(Normal)#Chaos_Sanctuary

Diablos average fire dmg is 67. 228/67= 3.4 times dmg against pets.

The average dmg against myself were 200-133= 67 dmg.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Damage#Defender

"Evil" does 400% dmg against pets. That would be 67*4= 268 dmg. Quite close to my observations BY MY OWN EYES (i checked life bar on skeleton and guessed % life left).

This one is solved.
-.-
re-turn
Profile Joined October 2021
4 Posts
October 06 2021 12:29 GMT
#1019
Playing single player, is there any reasonably reliable way to get a Phase Blade?

I'm been slaughtering cows for hours but only found one thus far, and that had 1 OS, so it was useless. I'll probably need quite a few until I can cube a 3 OS for Crescent Moon on it.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 06 2021 17:15 GMT
#1020
When leveling as a summoner necro, whats the smoothest way to level skill wise, max SR 1st? or mix in mages and mastery?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
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