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JonsaBoy
Denmark457 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11077 Posts
Think this video would fit in quite neatly for the Barca boys. As said earlier, Ronnie backed Mourinho up too in his interview. Hopefully this will put the pressure on the refs to cut down on Barca's diving. Edit: repost from earlier with the vid but definitely worth watching. | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
Overall, a possibly great match turned into some kind of a drama-fest, with more cheating on Barca's side and more dangerous play on RM's side. Disgusting. | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
On April 29 2011 04:44 ilj.psa wrote: Mourinho : "Why can't Barcelona win without scandals, like I did with Porto? " Porto kicked out of CL for bribing referees in 2003-2004 under Mourinho. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1024195/Porto-kicked-Champions-League-bribery-referees-2003-04.html http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330214-fc-porto-leaked-phone-taps-proof-major-corruption-scandal LOL! Mourinho : " Referees always favor barcelona" Inter offside goal allowed Barcelona goal not allowed. Handball? "(2) the player did not deliberately touch the ball but the ball hit his arm & he did not move the arm toward the ball (however, if the player's arms were in an unnatural position such as above his shoulders or sticking out to the sides, then he should be called for a handball)." No. Dont get me wrong Madrid is an amazing club with rich history im not bashing them but Mourinho on the other hand ,Its almost laughable what he says , this guy is the biggest hipocrite in the world. /rant thank you | ||
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Zevah
Argentina187 Posts
it's on spanish but you can see what they've done, The FAKE video it's on EVERY newspaper of Madrid... | ||
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noezke
England514 Posts
Just gunna leave this here and leave this thread forever because its laughable. Barcelona are PATHETIC for all there "amazing football" they are PATHETIC and the fans are just delusional. (I have no love for Real either) but LOL get a grip to anyone defending that shit. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
They should invent a third "pink" card for floppers. | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:20 On_Slaught wrote: So.... when is football going to finally throw another ref onto the field to catch all the blatant no-calls and tell all the floppers to go fuck themselves? They should invent a third "pink" card for floppers. They added goal line officials who can't even spot penalties so whats the point | ||
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Zevah
Argentina187 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:17 noezke wrote: http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1330054873516/noticia/Noticia/Television_images_show_that_Pepe_did_not_touch_Alves__leg.htm Just gunna leave this here and leave this thread forever because its laughable. Barcelona are PATHETIC for all there "amazing football" they are PATHETIC and the fans are just delusional. (I have no love for Real either) but LOL get a grip to anyone defending that shit. you could also read the thread before "leaving that here", THAT VIDEO IS A FAKE | ||
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
www.mediafire.com/?7cfgzltdptwh31z Go find the contact. Moreover, I can't see what your video is trying to say. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
On April 29 2011 04:44 ilj.psa wrote: Mourinho : "Why can't Barcelona win without scandals, like I did with Porto? " Porto kicked out of CL for bribing referees in 2003-2004 under Mourinho. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1024195/Porto-kicked-Champions-League-bribery-referees-2003-04.html http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330214-fc-porto-leaked-phone-taps-proof-major-corruption-scandal LOL! Mourinho : " Referees always favor barcelona" Inter offside goal allowed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nazgV33uqA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0AOm6B05QU Barcelona goal not allowed. Handball? "(2) the player did not deliberately touch the ball but the ball hit his arm & he did not move the arm toward the ball (however, if the player's arms were in an unnatural position such as above his shoulders or sticking out to the sides, then he should be called for a handball)." No. Dont get me wrong Madrid is an amazing club with rich history im not bashing them but Mourinho on the other hand ,Its almost laughable what he says , this guy is the biggest hipocrite in the world. /rant They were never kicked out of the CL, that was all accusations that were found out not to be true. This ref made up for the mistakes in the first game of Barca v Inter ;D | ||
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:38 Megatronn wrote: They were never kicked out of the CL, that was all accusations that were found out not to be true. Not to mention selecting the Daily Mail and Bleacher report as sources. Didn't you feel dirty just browsing those sites ilj.pasa? | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:46 Spinfusor wrote: Not to mention selecting the Daily Mail and Bleacher report as sources. Didn't you feel dirty just browsing those sites ilj.pasa? Selecting lol, I literally picked the first two. http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=es&site=&source=hp&q=porto scandal&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f3ed3e6dcc56e085 have fun browsing the internet | ||
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AngryLlama
United States1227 Posts
edit: Also to mention, i just finished rewatching the whole entire game. | ||
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Runnin
208 Posts
On April 29 2011 03:55 Suisen wrote: I as a neutral person can't comment on a foul because it was committed by a Madrid player. I have to 'prove' I am actually neutral by also saying something bad about Barcelona. I don't accept that. I don't accept your silly Spanish political feuds. And then when I call a spade a spade I am the one that makes it political? Come on! I'm sorry if I played a part in making you this upset, but if I was then you're taking it out on the wrong people/place as I'm American and a Chelsea (read: anti-Farca) fan. Re: The people who say Mou brainwashes Madrid fans...Everyone knows Mourinho trolls the world every time he opens his mouth, his words have nothing to do with our natural reaction to injustices. Just as you are reasonably upset when Ramos has a kick at Messi at the end of the 5-0 league game, Madrid fans and other teams fans are reasonably upset when Barcelona get soft red cards on the other teams every single year. You can spend all day arguing about this one on Pepe, but if it wasn't soft there would be no debate - and let's not even start about Van Persie and Thiago Motta. Perhaps in the context of a normal game between two mid-table teams people would chalk up this red card as a little soft but not a big deal - it's football after all things happen. However, given the context of the last 3 years and Barcelona's track record, it's not normal for one team to have so many massive, game changing decisions in their favor with little going the other way. This is why people are upset, not because Mourinho has "brainwashed" us. Edit: And yes Lllama, I can agree that Barcelona are the best team in the world and would probably beat Madrid, Man U 6 or 7 out of every 10 games. However that doesn't mean I'm ok with other teams being robbed of a fair chance at competing as the underdogs. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On April 29 2011 03:43 Stimp wrote: No. Different direction, different height. Ball was on the ground. Are you gonna also point out it was different leg too? -__- Amazing , im done arguing can't believe I wasted this much time | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
and was vastly confused when i entered. | ||
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Hadrian
50 Posts
RM play super physical to disrupt the play of the smaller Barcelona players. They shouldn't complain when they get carded for that shit. Plus, Pepe is just flat out nuts. Too many dangerous tackles and plays. That was a questionable red, but whatever, he deserves that just for karmic retribution. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
Have you seen Mourinho teams play against Barca? Every single game that a Mourinho team has played against Barca, his players commit assault and battery on the pitch. The tackles, the shoves, the flying kicks are atrocious blights on football. When you saw Madrid play Barca last year, there was none of that shit and the games never heated up this much. Mourinho creates an "us vs all" mentality by his very personality and intentions, and he uses that to drive his players to commit ridiculously violent acts on the pitch and say stupid things in interviews. When the referee decides to show that he's still the ref and the boss of the match, Mourinho and his band of thugs will of course try to be aggrieved at "incorrect" and "biased" umpiring decisions as they can clearly not admit that Barca was better, that they played like thugs or that their strategy was to kick, hack, and chop Barca players for 65 minutes until they can send on Kaka for Khedira and decide to attack for 25 minutes at their home stadium. What is Barca to do against that? Are they supposed to be bullied in the press conference by Mourinho's bullshit; calling out the ref, putting the spotlight on refereeing decisions and placing unnecessary pressure on the ref to favour his team? Are they supposed to accept that being assaulted on the pitch by Madrid players to the scale of criminal violence is the way things should be? Every Chelsea and Madrid fan on these forums that believed in the "Stamford Bridge scandal" bullshit should search youtube for the video showing Iniesta's legs after the 2nd leg of the semi between Barca and Chelsea 2 years ago. He had cuts strewn across both shins and knees and thighs, some of them half a centimetre deep. That's right Drogba, your team played like a "fucking disgrace" (to quote yourself) in that match, just as Madrid are doing in the recent clasicos. Barca players play-act because they don't stand up to the bullshit violent tactics that Mourinho employs. They over-dramatise fouls because they want to show the referee that they have been fouled, or stamped, or hacked or slashed. I could be naive as I was when I was playing football up until my college years and try to get up after every violent tackle I was given, but guess what? Half the time that I got up from a foul, I didn't get the foul awarded. Don't you blind Madrid "football fans" see? Barca wants to play a fair game against Madrid, partially because they believe that they are better than Madrid. But if Mourinho tells his players to chop Barca players down and pressures the ref before and after the game to not give out any cards even for conduct that could lead to gaol-time off the pitch, then I think Barca is well justified to play-act when they get the slightest foul. This pressures Madrid to not be as violent on the pitch as they will be walking a fine line. For the fools who continue to be violent and then actually commit a card offence, the play-acting is to increase the chance that the card is actually awarded. Further, you cannot deny that there is malice or at the very least, intent, in the carded offences in the last few clasicos. Pepe's challenge was high, late and it was a studs-up offence. By definition in the rulebook, this warrants a straight red card. But suppose Alves didn't play-act; then Pepe would not be sent off even though he deserved it. The ref is smart enough to know that Barca (and football players in general) play-acts, and accordingly with this frame of reference in mind, if Alves did not make a meal out of the challenge, he would have though that the challenge was not a red-card offence despite it being so. TLDR: 1. Madrid was coached by Mourinho to play like thugs in the recent clasicos; this is a tactical play and part of the overall strategy to stifle Barca's passing game and make them too nervous to play to their usual standard 2. Barca players play-act because they do not want to be hacked in the match because if they play-act then Madrid players will need to be careful about their fouling 3. The ref is not stupid like 99% of people here and on every other football forums assume he is; he knows Barca play-act and he knows Mourinho teams play dirty; he will assume that if there is no play-acting, then perhaps no contact even occured since Barca players will fall down at every foul Final words: It is ridiculous to see so many "fans" of the game condone violent and malicious tackling and blaming the ref on the dismissal. I haven't seen a single red card given unjustly for a Mourinho team against Barca. Pepe's foul was a studs-up tackle, high, late and committed while Alves was in the air. That is a straight red even without some of the aggravating elements of the tackle. Similarly, Arbeloa's challenge in the Liga clasico, Ramos in the clasico before that, Thiago Motta in last year's semi; they were all red card offences. Should the ref not give a red card because it's "not fair" to always send off one of Mourinho's men, even if they deserve it? Play-acting has become a necessary evil when the alternative is to risk long-term injury, especially when the default position is that a player who actually got fouled will play-act (and you cannot blame this on Barca, it has been this way since the Pele days). Every football fan here will know of the double leg breaks that have happened from similar studs-up sliding tackles that some Madrid players have been trying - see Eduardo, Aaron Ramsey and co. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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