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On June 29 2014 04:27 Eschaton wrote:
So I've wanted to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for years and years, and now have to decide between the EE on Steam for 6.24, and regular BG2 on GOG for 4.99. EE sounds like a good idea, but the comments on steam have me wavering, thinking maybe I don't want to pay an extra 1.25 for repackaged freely available community patches, and some exceptionally weak extra content. EE worth it or no?
No. Honestly, you can get the original saga cheaper and mod it even better than what the EE does. You might get EE if you want to avoid any problems with widescreens without using mods for that, but other than that I don't see why anyone would buy that. If that were like half year earlier, then it would be even more messy because of how buggy the EE was.
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On June 29 2014 04:32 rebuffering wrote:
I am also curious on this, and im also curious as to how complicated the game is, im doing a run through of DA:Origins, wondering how much more difficult Bulders Gate will be.
As for difficulty, I don't see it difficult at all - but I have played it so many times, solo, with team, evil or good, that I know every damn quest xP
If you enjoy Dragon Age: Origins, then by all means give Baldur's Gate saga a shot. The fighting and overall mechanics are solid D&D, there's tons of quests, sidequests, some even being blocked by your choices earlier (which wasn't something usual at the time), lots of exploring and reading, memorable characters (I don't remember anyone from DA:O) and not bad story that might get you hooked on the actual D&D lore.
People like either BG1 or BG2 more, depending on their taste. I consider them both a very good titles, must play. Also: Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale 1 & 2 are worthy of your time.
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On June 29 2014 01:59 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Anyone have any knowledge/experience of the following games:
Anno 2070
Endless Space
Planetary Annihilation
Been eyeing these 3 but not for sure.
Haven't played Anno, but have spent a little time with both ES and PA.
As said above, ES is fairly shallow although pretty. I was surprised when I made it to what I thought was the midgame, I had actually entered the end game. Not a lot of diversity possible, and it's missing features in places that I find surprising, but it should still be fun for a few playthroughs. If it wasn't in space I wouldn't enjoy it.
PA is going to be a good game, but right now it feels a little bit like playing a Spring RTS-based game missing half the units/building, and only on flat maps. The 3D nature of planets is a bit deceiving, since it's basically a flat surface that doesn't allow terrain to impact gameplay. As someone who has probably spent 100s of hours playing Spring RTS games, it's a step back in many regards (at the moment), but eventually be overcome the limitations, I hope. Not worth the current Steam price, imo ($25). I paid $16 earlier in the sale, and don't feel totally ripped off though.
Edit: If what you want is a TA-like RTS fix, go try Zero-K! It's awesome, free, and just got onto Steam Greenlight.
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On June 29 2014 04:36 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:32 rebuffering wrote:
I am also curious on this, and im also curious as to how complicated the game is, im doing a run through of DA:Origins, wondering how much more difficult Bulders Gate will be. As for difficulty, I don't see it difficult at all - but I have played it so many times, solo, with team, evil or good, that I know every damn quest xP If you enjoy Dragon Age: Origins, then by all means give Baldur's Gate saga a shot. The fighting and overall mechanics are solid D&D, there's tons of quests, sidequests, some even being blocked by your choices earlier (which wasn't something usual at the time), lots of exploring and reading, memorable characters (I don't remember anyone from DA:O) and not bad story that might get you hooked on the actual D&D lore. People like either BG1 or BG2 more, depending on their taste. I consider them both a very good titles, must play. Also: Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale 1 & 2 are worthy of your time.
Thats harsh Claudia Black and Captain Janeway were involved, the characters were fun.
I prefer Baldur's Gate because it lets you have more party members and you could have those stronghold quests that could be entertaining in their own way, thats really my only beef with DA:O vs. BG
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On June 29 2014 04:36 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:32 rebuffering wrote:
I am also curious on this, and im also curious as to how complicated the game is, im doing a run through of DA:Origins, wondering how much more difficult Bulders Gate will be. As for difficulty, I don't see it difficult at all - but I have played it so many times, solo, with team, evil or good, that I know every damn quest xP If you enjoy Dragon Age: Origins, then by all means give Baldur's Gate saga a shot. The fighting and overall mechanics are solid D&D, there's tons of quests, sidequests, some even being blocked by your choices earlier (which wasn't something usual at the time), lots of exploring and reading, memorable characters (I don't remember anyone from DA:O) and not bad story that might get you hooked on the actual D&D lore. People like either BG1 or BG2 more, depending on their taste. I consider them both a very good titles, must play. Also: Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale 1 & 2 are worthy of your time.
Well then, its a good thing I have no life whatsoever rofl. Who needs the sun, amirite?
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On June 29 2014 04:32 rebuffering wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:27 Eschaton wrote:
So I've wanted to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for years and years, and now have to decide between the EE on Steam for 6.24, and regular BG2 on GOG for 4.99. EE sounds like a good idea, but the comments on steam have me wavering, thinking maybe I don't want to pay an extra 1.25 for repackaged freely available community patches, and some exceptionally weak extra content. EE worth it or no? I am also curious on this, and im also curious as to how complicated the game is, im doing a run through of DA:Origins, wondering how much more difficult Bulders Gate will be.
Prepare that you can't boomrush enemies in BG. At least in the first one. Characters are really fragile. I also don't recommend melee if you are not familiar with spells, it will safe a lot of frustration (and even if you know the spells well, melee is really mediocre and often times not useful in BG1). There are some difficult fights here and there, but difficult rather means nasty. Some fights literally depend on die rolls.
I have no experience with DA:O however. So I can't compare. I personally would recommend Planescape: Torment over BG. It did everything far better than BG but the fighting and honestly the fighting in BG wasn't really spectacular either. If you like a generic fantasy setting for the main story with lots of human settlements and human problems, go for BG1+2 (I don't and that's why I enjoyed the sidetracking/questing in BG way way more than the main storyline).
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On June 29 2014 04:27 Eschaton wrote:
So I've wanted to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for years and years, and now have to decide between the EE on Steam for 6.24, and regular BG2 on GOG for 4.99. EE sounds like a good idea, but the comments on steam have me wavering, thinking maybe I don't want to pay an extra 1.25 for repackaged freely available community patches, and some exceptionally weak extra content. EE worth it or no?
Regular BG2 is fine tbh. BG1 EE might be worth it, but you can solve its resolution problems through mods (though some of them are a real headache to get working).
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On June 29 2014 06:01 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:27 Eschaton wrote:
So I've wanted to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for years and years, and now have to decide between the EE on Steam for 6.24, and regular BG2 on GOG for 4.99. EE sounds like a good idea, but the comments on steam have me wavering, thinking maybe I don't want to pay an extra 1.25 for repackaged freely available community patches, and some exceptionally weak extra content. EE worth it or no? Regular BG2 is fine tbh. BG1 EE might be worth it, but you can solve its resolution problems through mods (though some of them are a real headache to get working).
Pretty much what sbrubbles said, depends on your computer literacy...the mods are really annoying to install. However, I do believe the EE version is patched, which should remove some totally op items in BG 1, which I love to get and get again to feel really friggish powerful, like the ring that doubles the amount of spells you can memorize :D
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Is Thief worth my 15€ ? Only saw a trailer once some time ago. Would like to hear the opionion of the TL community.
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On June 29 2014 01:59 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Anyone have any knowledge/experience of the following games:
Anno 2070
Endless Space
Planetary Annihilation
Been eyeing these 3 but not for sure.
Anno 2070 is a fun and great looking game. It's a city builder with a main focus on supply chains. Check out some Youtube videos to get a general idea of how it plays versus the other main city builder games (e.g., SimCity 4, Tropico, etc). I will warn you however, that it does use UPlay as DRM. Some reviews of the game with be negative solely because of this. I personally haven't had any issues with UPlay, but it is something to consider when purchasing.
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On June 29 2014 04:32 rebuffering wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:27 Eschaton wrote:
So I've wanted to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for years and years, and now have to decide between the EE on Steam for 6.24, and regular BG2 on GOG for 4.99. EE sounds like a good idea, but the comments on steam have me wavering, thinking maybe I don't want to pay an extra 1.25 for repackaged freely available community patches, and some exceptionally weak extra content. EE worth it or no? I am also curious on this, and im also curious as to how complicated the game is, im doing a run through of DA:Origins, wondering how much more difficult Bulders Gate will be.
BG2/ToB plus the SCS2 mod that can be found here will give you one of the best combat experiences in RPGs. The complexity of the combat in DA: Origins pales in comparison to unmodded BG2 (nevermind SCS2/Ascension).
Modding regular BG2 was pretty easy in my experience. I really don't see any reason to pay extra for the enhanced edition.
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On June 29 2014 06:39 fishbowl wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 01:59 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Anyone have any knowledge/experience of the following games:
Anno 2070
Endless Space
Planetary Annihilation
Been eyeing these 3 but not for sure. Anno 2070 is a fun and great looking game. It's a city builder with a main focus on supply chains. Check out some Youtube videos to get a general idea of how it plays versus the other main city builder games (e.g., SimCity 4, Tropico, etc). I will warn you however, that it does use UPlay as DRM. Some reviews of the game with be negative solely because of this. I personally haven't had any issues with UPlay, but it is something to consider when purchasing.
anno 2070 is a really polished anno game.
The whole campaign is also a big tutorial for new players, it will explain everything.
However, it is not really a city uilding game, its more about production and supply chains.
You do build a city, but you simply plop some houses and a handful of other civil buildings in the right places, that is all the city building in this game.
Main gameplay is to aquire resources spread across islands, make them into products, distribute them to your cities while staying cashflow positive and managing the limited island space.
Anno 2070 has a lot of content and is a good anno game.
There is also the 17xx anno game, which is very similar, but plays in a different time period.
These new anno games also do a good job of making the game interesting after you reached "endgame" once.
Both games lack real AI opponents thoguh and only have scripted cheating ones. Its the only thing they removed from the series. I guess the new studio does not know how to make Ai that would be able to compete with the player.
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On June 29 2014 06:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Is Thief worth my 15€ ? Only saw a trailer once some time ago. Would like to hear the opionion of the TL community.
Thief is a huge fail. You should be paid to play that game, do not waste 15€ on this.
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On June 29 2014 06:59 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 06:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Is Thief worth my 15€ ? Only saw a trailer once some time ago. Would like to hear the opionion of the TL community. Thief is a huge fail. You should be paid to play that game, do not waste 15€ on this.
Dishonored was a better Thief game than the Thief that just came out, and it was only 5$. Dishonored is far superior, and for me at least, captured alot of the Thief spirit, even though its a different IP.
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On June 29 2014 04:39 Eschaton wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 01:59 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Anyone have any knowledge/experience of the following games:
Anno 2070
Endless Space
Planetary Annihilation
Been eyeing these 3 but not for sure. As said above, ES is fairly shallow although pretty. I was surprised when I made it to what I thought was the midgame, I had actually entered the end game. Not a lot of diversity possible, and it's missing features in places that I find surprising, but it should still be fun for a few playthroughs. If it wasn't in space I wouldn't enjoy it.
I second this. I keep buying space games because I dream of recreating BSG type battles. Would add that tech feels very linear and flets / ships tend to be very homogeneous. Combat etc also is pretty repeatitive.
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On June 29 2014 06:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Is Thief worth my 15€ ? Only saw a trailer once some time ago. Would like to hear the opionion of the TL community.
Do you know the original Thiefs? If not, play those (with HD mods).
If yes, what is your playstyle? If you like to "ghost" (no detections, no knockouts) it's a good game. Quite a lot of fun. I heard there are AI issues with chasing / catching you, but as a ghost you don't get chased, so it doesn't apply.
You also should disable most options (focus, on screen objectives, on screen buttons, overall: all on screen UI), since it breaks a lot of immersion.
The game is more linear than the original ones, and the story is _really_ bad. Fragmented story, unclear motives, unlikely/bland characters with totally unrelated world-hub missions sprinkled in (which only unlock after certain story missions) which break the flow of the story even more. That said - some of the main-hub side missions are the best in the game.
I enjoyed the game quite a lot, but I'm a stealth fan. I'd say the game is something around the 65-75 score mark. Fun, but not something I want to replay any time soon.
Dishonored is also quite fun, but my major problem that a stealth run in Dishonored consists of "look up and blink to a pipe".
From what I know though, you should give it a try first, since it's overall seen as a better game compared to Thief. And it's way cheaper.
I'd say wait with Thief until Christmas (assuming <10€)
On topic:
Finally Portal2 on sale! Played it through at a friend but never owned it myself. Now with some good mods coming out it was time to change that!
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Germany3128 Posts
On June 29 2014 07:36 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 06:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Is Thief worth my 15€ ? Only saw a trailer once some time ago. Would like to hear the opionion of the TL community. Do you know the original Thiefs? If not, play those (with HD mods). If yes, what is your playstyle? If you like to "ghost" (no detections, no knockouts) it's a good game. Quite a lot of fun. I heard there are AI issues with chasing / catching you, but as a ghost you don't get chased, so it doesn't apply. You also should disable most options (focus, on screen objectives, on screen buttons, overall: all on screen UI), since it breaks a lot of immersion.
I Actually never played the original ones and will try them out. Thank you :-)
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15 minutes into Outlast and im already alt-tabbing to take some stress off lol, shouldn't have bought this rofl.
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On June 29 2014 08:02 rebuffering wrote:
15 minutes into Outlast and im already alt-tabbing to take some stress off lol, shouldn't have bought this rofl.
Yeah I have not touched it for quite a while but the hardest adjustment for me was always being in first person without a gun. Same issue with Amnesia, lol.
I do like the camera gimmick, though.
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im so close to buy Shadowrun and Dragonfall but i cant decide  the only game i wanted was grim dawn and so far have bought: gunslinger, child of light, betrayal, sleeping dogs and dont starve
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