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Misder
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On October 28 2012 01:11 Misder wrote: Any tips before I go into the branches of Hell? This is my first time going in... I've read the wiki on it- pack the appropriate resistances, bring restore abilities and curing/clarity, go down as fast as possible to avoid Hell effects. What else? You pretty much got it. If you decided not to train your evo for CBoE, the bosses are going to be difficult for you to defeat. Try to find something to keep between the LoS of you and Dispater while you Fire Storm him, Summon Butterflies can work. I would ensure that you have some form of controlled teleport so you can ninja the runes if need be. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
You should do pan before hell because it is much easier. | ||
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Glenstorm
United States69 Posts
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Misder
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Blazinghand
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Mothra
United States1448 Posts
On October 29 2012 19:49 Blazinghand wrote: My DDGl of TSO finally made it through both orc and lair and I'm seeing demons and undead more often. Playing with this on repeat. more seriously though I have a +6/+8 exec axe of frost, is it worth it to holy brandifiy it or should I just leave it as frost I would leave it until going pan/hells/tomb. | ||
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Mothra
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crate
United States2474 Posts
Also there is probably a holy great mace lying around somewhere anyway since it is one of the most common great mace brands. You would also be much better served getting haste than getting 26 polearms levels, especially since extended kind of assumes you have repeatable haste and is balanced accordingly. | ||
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Mothra
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Blazinghand
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Thanks for all the help guys! I'm glad I won, and also glad I won this way. | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
CPA so imba | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
Second try I went Trog and crossbows ... I'm pretty sure crossbows are the best ranged weapon for killing everything, because penetration is that good. Also you oneshot everything on d:1, crossbows imba. Had a couple kind of tense moments in midgame when I wasn't yet killing everything in three shots but nothing too bad except for the time I was an idiot next to a hydra. Op is good for this since you have super strong melee early on (constrict + tentacle aux) and hopefully you can ride that plus your starting ammo until your god of choice starts giving you what you want. As an aside steel bolts are actually not very good any more, flame/frost deal more damage to stuff that's neutral to them so steel is mainly for stuff with both rC and rF. Not many enemies like that in a 3 rune game (and oofs are vulnerable to silver so you don't even care about them). Pretty much just aliches and tentmons. (The reason steel used to be really good is you could enchant it and then it would never break, while enchanting both flame and frost arrows was usually silly and a bad idea). | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
it's cool when wiglaf picks up one of the dozen crossbows that litter every floor of the vaults, then mighthaste guns you down | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
If you want to keep TL top 5 then either: get a lot of points for allruning (this is at least 12*30 + a ton of points for your high score) or if you want to win 3 rune games you can go for races/classes/gods that the team does not yet have a win for. Sludge elves are good right now for your individual scores but I won a SEWz a bit ago so you're only improving the team score by about 10 points if you win one. Tournament ends in a bit more than 3 days. To see our unwon races ask Sequell: !lg * t won s=crace/@liquid ?:N=0 Unwon classes: !lg * t won s=cls/@liquid ?:N=0 Gods you have to check our tournament page since you can change gods partway through a game. I grabbed a Zin win so other than Jiyva and Chei none of the gods we have unwon are worth a ton though. --- Speaking of the Zin win it was a HOSu, I took Zin shortly before lair, worshipped him from then until I hit 6* piety in orc, and then ditched him for a real god (Jiyva). It ended up being a pretty fun game ... the starting book carried me through Lair just fine, I found Eos (+11 morningstar of elec) outside of lair and trained that up, then after converting to Jiyva I gradually picked up the following: LRD, statue form, shadow creatures, summon hydra, haste, summon elemental (for Zot). I got a demon whip from Mara and Devastator from a weapon trove and used those for much of the game. Oh, and I used shield of the gong!!! It's quite an experience, I recommend you use the shield if you find it because it is lots of fun. It will get you in bad situations. But it's quite amusing fighting for instance the entire population of Elf:2 (including Roka band) within LOS of the stairs I took to enter, or drawing seemingly endless enemies to you at the stairs of Vault:$. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On November 02 2012 06:55 crate wrote: To see our unwon races ask Sequell: !lg * t won s=crace/@liquid ?:N=0 Unwon classes: !lg * t won s=cls/@liquid ?:N=0 Is there a way to use the bot without getting on IRC? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On November 02 2012 07:29 Cel.erity wrote: Is there a way to use the bot without getting on IRC? Here's TL's current status: + Show Spoiler + <Blazinghand>30 !lg * t won s=crace/@liquid ?:N=0 <Sequell> 371 games for * (t won s=crace): 0/17x High Elf [0.00%], 0/10x Demigod [0.00%], 0/7x Felid [0.00%], 0/18x Deep Elf [0.00%], 0/16x Demonspawn [0.00%], 0/9x Ghoul [0.00%], 0/8x Mummy [0.00%], 0/12x Spriggan [0.00%], 0/10x Tengu [0.00%], 0/10x Centaur [0.00%], 0/15x Ogre [0.00%] <Blazinghand>30 !lg * t won s=cls/@liquid ?:N=0 <Sequell> 371 games for * (t won s=cls): 0/5x Assassin [0.00%], 0/9x Death Knight [0.00%], 0/56x Berserker [0.00%], 0/26x Fire Elementalist [0.00%], 0/12x Monk [0.00%], 0/6x Wanderer [0.00%], 0/6x Enchanter [0.00%], 0/11x Air Elementalist [0.00%], 0/10x Venom Mage [0.00%], 0/9x Arcane Marksman [0.00%], 0/7x Artificer [0.00%], 0/10x Abyssal Knight [0.00%], 0/8x Priest [0.00%] So basically, Unwon races as of this post: High Elf, Demigod, Felid, Deep Elf, Demonsapwn, Ghoul, Mummy, Spriggan, Tengu, Centaur, Ogre Unwon Classes: Assassin, Death Knight, Berserker, Fire Elementalist, Monk, Wanderer, Enchanter, Air Elementalist, Venom Mage, Arcane Marskman, ARtificer, Abyssal Knight, PRiest. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
A berserker of one of those races would give us 2/3 (Trog already won), as would HOPr which is quite easy (HO already won). Unwon gods: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Jiyva, Lugonu, Nemelex Xobeh, No God, Sif Muna, The Shining One, Yredelemnul | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
I believe in you TL! | ||
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