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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:57:14
February 15 2012 23:56 GMT
#581
Im dead. Didnt last two minutes in Zot.

Sad day, friends

I've updated my post on the previous page with pictures
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Glenstorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States69 Posts
February 16 2012 00:35 GMT
#582
That's too bad zaplin, it really sounded like you were going to make it

Does anyone have advice on how to play quickly? I grabbed a troll beserker and just suicidally mashed o and tab through the dungeon, and it still took about 27 minutes to go to floor 10. There has to be something I'm missing, since people are able to beat the game in an hour and a half.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 00:42:34
February 16 2012 00:42 GMT
#583
How to win quickly:

Pick SpEn.

Dive to D:4 since you don't need anything from above D:4 (you can get to XL2 if you want for EH, this will slow you down but make the game easier). Find your god of choice (if said god is Lugonu you can continue skipping most of the level instead). Go to Lair, get xp. Go down to D:27 (if you want Lugonu go find a portal to the Abyss, but you probably don't want Lugonu for a 3-rune game). Go to V: 7. Get three runes in any order. Ninja the orb. Win.

This won't get you record-breaking speed (you will need to be fast for a win in under two hours even skipping lots of enemies) but it will go much faster, both in turns and real-time, than clearing every level. By far the biggest difference between my 50k-turn 9-rune SpEn win and all of my other wins (the fastest of which is about 80k turns for 3 runes) is that I just didn't bother clearing levels on my SpEn.

If you are looking for fast wins really the biggest thing to do is stop doing stuff that is unnecessary. You do not need the experience from clearing every dungeon floor, so don't bother clearing every floor. You don't need to go to Crypt or Elf at all, so don't. Etc.

My wins are all over five hours since I don't personally see the point of playing for quick real-time wins in a turn-based game.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
February 16 2012 00:42 GMT
#584
I have no idea how people play that quickly. My games in real-time are always so slow, because I tend to leave the console open while I do other things. Playing via phone is much slower, too.

Real time has no effect on your game score though, so it doesn't matter. (unless you want that tournament milestone).


My battlemummy has cleared Lair and gotten a second experience card, as well as a second quick blade. I'm going to leave this one unbranded to whip out with Warp Weapon in case things get really dicey. I'm not entirely sure when I would absolutely need a quickblade of distortion but hey, now I've got the option :D
it's my first day
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 16 2012 00:43 GMT
#585
auto explore can slow you down sometimes because it searches every nook and cranny and makes you chase items too. If you see that the majority of the level is explored already, you probably can shave alot of time off by just manually going down yourself.

I'm guessing that the people who beat the game in an hour and a half skip a great majority of the dungeon and avoid most of the monsters. Doesn't sound like that's what you were doing with your trollzerker
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Glenstorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States69 Posts
February 16 2012 01:56 GMT
#586
Thanks for all the advice, I'm now getting myself mangled in record times (the best one was a death to my own ghost that kept putting me to sleep).

I was practicing for the tournament, but there's something rather fun about trying to blitz through the game as fast as you can, even if it's wrecking my overall win %
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#587
Well I am now a greatplayer! Won a FeHe just now to grab a win with every race that is in 0.10 (including winning the last five on a streak).

Don't play FeHe unless you are masochistic, it is very painful. I finished at XL19 because I died four times, and I had only 91 hp without divine vigour because felids are like that. My strategy was to pacifydudes, and the stuff I couldn't pacify I avoided with felid speed for the most part. Thankfully I found an amulet of faith so using greater pacification at 5* or below was basically zero piety cost as long as it worked in one or two tries. I got very lucky with books, getting cantrips very early so I had confusing touch for almost the entire game, which was a big deal (I used it over 1300 times). I also got spatial translocations, book of the warp, and wizardry, which meant I had all the spells I really cared about. Unfortunately felids apparently cannot learn portal projectile, which is a shame since I would have actually used it to toss the orb during the orbrun. Instead I dropped the orb, used controlled blink, and then apported it afterward.

I got little enough xp that despite finishing 40k turns faster than the only other FeHe win I still did not score as many points.

But Elyvilon is probably overpowered so I won anyway.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
February 16 2012 20:46 GMT
#588
I lost my elec quickblade battlemummy last night to exactly 1 wrong keypress. I was clearing out the final chamber of Salamander-filled Snake:5 when, in a moment of carelessness, I hit tab after the last black mamba fell. This moved me towards the lava and in range of 3 burning spear stabs, taking my rF- mummy bro from 100+ HP to -4 in a single turn. Salamanders don't have ranged attacks, I was completely safe so long as I kept my distance. Summon Dragon was so close to being online too. Poor play.

---

.10 is out!
it's my first day
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
February 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#589
HoFi of Fedhas. It's fun!

http://pastebin.com/xKzXpxQw

Time for 0.10 now.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 22:38:31
February 16 2012 22:31 GMT
#590
Yay 0.10!

edit: changelog says changes to demonspawn mutations. Any additional info on this anywhere?
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
February 16 2012 22:50 GMT
#591
Go here: http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/changes.txt and ctrl-f demonspawn a few times. There's a couple things.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
February 16 2012 22:54 GMT
#592
Roll demonspawn mutations at the start of the game.
All demonspawn mutations are now stored in the player data, and are
determined at the same time. This makes a lot of things a lot simpler.
On the other hand, it means that the influence of skills and gods on
demonspawn mutations is now broken.


Does this mean we can now start a game, check out mutations, and then choose whether to play it or not?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 16 2012 22:57 GMT
#593
It means your mutations are decided on turn 0, but you cannot see them until you get them naturally.
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 17:51:32
February 17 2012 17:50 GMT
#594
funny moment in new .10:

[image loading]

It looks easy?! lol, what exactly are you implying, dcss?
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
February 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#595
that's actually a new feature in .10 (though I don't know if tiles has a visual indicator like ascii), you can look at any monster and get a rough estimate of their strength vs yours. It's supposed to help brand new players react accordingly to dudes they've never met before.
it's my first day
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 19:11:51
February 17 2012 18:51 GMT
#596
Jiyva troll is pretty fun. I picked up TSO at the temple because he wouldn't get mad at me switching to Jiyva and the halo is a free bonus, then found a Jiyva altar at the entrance to Slime. From there the game was really easy because you get to high Jiyva piety really fast and then you can slimify anything difficult you run into for a 3 (4) rune win. The biggest problem is having enough resistances/spells to go ninja the orb (or clear Zot, I guess), so hope that the loot you get left with suffices for that or you will splat there. I got a very nice teleport on the most annoying orb vault so that made it easier for me.

Jiyva is really very strong with no xp investment (but lots of lost items obviously, and you end up losing some xp to jellies too). You get--especially on a troll or ogre--better stats, a usually-good mutation set, an instant-kill attack that only checks EV, and basically conservation and rmut both without having to use an amulet slot on either. You get a free rune from Slime too, though unless you have at least semicontrolled blink plus apportation you lose a huge number of good items when you go grab it.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 01:10:28
February 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#597
oops, lost my SpEn to berserking Agnes -_- (though I wasn't playing on CAO, also oops)

also, where do I find my CAO rcfile?
Writer
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 18 2012 03:39 GMT
#598
On February 18 2012 08:49 ]343[ wrote:
also, where do I find my CAO rcfile?

The easiest way is to go on IRC and ask Henzell for it: !rc yourname
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 18 2012 12:46 GMT
#599
Best way to ninja the orb: take an escape hatch into Zot:5, land in the orb vault.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Glenstorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 01:48:18
February 19 2012 01:44 GMT
#600
My first pan run, 32 floors to find an exit.

Was I really unlucky, or is this typical of how painful pan usually is?

Edit: _a - the ring "Gess" {+Rage +Inv rElec rF++ rC+ MR Dam+4}
Can I put this on without chei getting angry at me, as long as I don't activate the beserk?
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