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On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow =/ + Show Spoiler +
actually I was serious. I mean you dont do a major part of a RPG which would be the side quests and you ignored Alchemy too ( which I highly doubt if you played at hard dificulty )
so yeah not much dissing here just saying what might give you more fun
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I still haven't had any inclination to reload my game after getting to the start of Act 2. The plot took a sharp right turn at crazy-town and I lost interest.
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On June 25 2011 02:24 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow =/ + Show Spoiler + actually I was serious. I mean you dont do a major part of a RPG which would be the side quests and you ignored Alchemy too ( which I highly doubt if you played at hard dificulty ) so yeah not much dissing here just saying what might give you more fun
Implying that I'm a simpleton when I actually pointed out that I do enjoy RPGs and such, just didn't happen to like this one. And yes I largely ignored Alchemy.
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On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow. Anyway don't insult people because they don't like the same games as you, we've had enough of that with the whole PS3 and Xbox360 thing, wish people like you would've learned by now. + Show Spoiler +
I don't think he's insulting you... you ripped through an RPG in hard mode on two days... you obviously aren't the type that enjoys really getting into an RGP world / story and exploring etc... it seems like you rushed through the entire game for some reason. I don't think I'd be able to give a solid opinion of a game after only playing it for two days, especially an RPG. It DOES seems like your the type that would prefer other game types more and he's just pointing that out... I think your overreacting a bit...
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On June 25 2011 02:47 stk01001 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow. Anyway don't insult people because they don't like the same games as you, we've had enough of that with the whole PS3 and Xbox360 thing, wish people like you would've learned by now. + Show Spoiler + I don't think he's insulting you... you ripped through an RPG in hard mode on two days... you obviously aren't the type that enjoys really getting into an RGP world / story and exploring etc... it seems like you rushed through the entire game for some reason. I don't think I'd be able to give a solid opinion of a game after only playing it for two days, especially an RPG. It DOES seems like your the type that would prefer other game types more and he's just pointing that out... I think your overreacting a bit...
Well I see it differently. I spent hours in ME and ME2 just looking at everything, played both games 3 times to see multiple possibilities and such.
Yes of course tearing through the game in 2 days isn't optimal for an RPG, but I just didn't have fun so I wanted to get it over with. Story and exploring the world didn't interest me, so even if I went and spent time looking around, I wouldn't have had more fun... Just an opinion.
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The difficulty of the Witcher kinda hurt it in my opinion. It's a great game, but when a game is ridiculously easy even on "hard" mode it kinda of ruins some RPG aspects. Never feeling like you need to better you character through alchemy or enhancements or gear can make you lose interest in a way.
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this is my first RPG game that i play and it's been quite awesome so far. i like the combat system and characters are quite awesome. Only bad thing is my computer. gotta play on minium settings and still i get fps lag sometimes :/
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On June 25 2011 04:32 DannyJ wrote:
The difficulty of the Witcher kinda hurt it in my opinion. It's a great game, but when a game is ridiculously easy even on "hard" mode it kinda of ruins some RPG aspects. Never feeling like you need to better you character through alchemy or enhancements or gear can make you lose interest in a way.
what're you talking about?
on NORMAL i find potions almost necessary to beat some of the encounters in ch1.
once you get to the later stages you are supposed to be a badass. thats kind of the point of an rpg.
and to the dude that beat the game in 2 days, witcher shits all over ME2 in just about every category. me2 didnt even have a story. its an rpg for people that dont play rpgs. my steam clock on ME2 is 50 hours, its not a bad game, just a bad rpg.
the original ME is a stone cold classic tho.
as for tutorials - all information regarding gameplay systems and character back story is available in the journal.
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On June 25 2011 02:37 Bibdy wrote:
I still haven't had any inclination to reload my game after getting to the start of Act 2. The plot took a sharp right turn at crazy-town and I lost interest.
Same here. I'll probably pick it up sometime in the future but nothing really drives me to pick the game back up.
Does it actually get much better? or is it a similar pace through the whole game?
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On June 25 2011 04:18 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 02:47 stk01001 wrote:On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow. Anyway don't insult people because they don't like the same games as you, we've had enough of that with the whole PS3 and Xbox360 thing, wish people like you would've learned by now. + Show Spoiler + I don't think he's insulting you... you ripped through an RPG in hard mode on two days... you obviously aren't the type that enjoys really getting into an RGP world / story and exploring etc... it seems like you rushed through the entire game for some reason. I don't think I'd be able to give a solid opinion of a game after only playing it for two days, especially an RPG. It DOES seems like your the type that would prefer other game types more and he's just pointing that out... I think your overreacting a bit... Well I see it differently. I spent hours in ME and ME2 just looking at everything, played both games 3 times to see multiple possibilities and such. Yes of course tearing through the game in 2 days isn't optimal for an RPG, but I just didn't have fun so I wanted to get it over with. Story and exploring the world didn't interest me, so even if I went and spent time looking around, I wouldn't have had more fun... Just an opinion.
Do be fair, noone of those games on your desktop are classical RPGs. ME 2 has been harshly critized for being a RPG made for FPS fans by hardcore classic RPG fans. Obviously a lot of people also though it was a great improvement, but that's not my point.
If you had Baldur's gate, Neverwinter Nights, Elders Scrolls, etc., I would be far more impressed by your aparent experience in classical RPGs. Or maybe something like NetHack or Rogue, but that's probally expecting a bit too much.
Not trying to sound like I'm dissing you, just that there may be some truth to what the guy said, even if he didn't say it in the most friendly manner. I never had to gather materials because I'm just so used to explore every single thing and getting every single item I can, for example, something common for RPG fans.
About the no alchemy thing, I played on hard using potions like 4-5 times only, not including the final boss. Sure I had to re-load some times, but after you get the hang of hit and running, while abusing Quen, it's definatelly not impossible to play without using them at all. Quen is so OP it's not even funny, it was basically the only spell I used.
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On June 25 2011 05:01 Vaporized wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 04:32 DannyJ wrote:
The difficulty of the Witcher kinda hurt it in my opinion. It's a great game, but when a game is ridiculously easy even on "hard" mode it kinda of ruins some RPG aspects. Never feeling like you need to better you character through alchemy or enhancements or gear can make you lose interest in a way. what're you talking about? on NORMAL i find potions almost necessary to beat some of the encounters in ch1. once you get to the later stages you are supposed to be a badass. thats kind of the point of an rpg. and to the dude that beat the game in 2 days, witcher shits all over ME2 in just about every category. me2 didnt even have a story. its an rpg for people that dont play rpgs. my steam clock on ME2 is 50 hours, its not a bad game, just a bad rpg. the original ME is a stone cold classic tho. as for tutorials - all information regarding gameplay systems and character back story is available in the journal.
Just because you for some reason had trouble on normal mode doesn't mean everyone else did.
Also, as i kind of alluded to, you feel more like a "bad ass" at the end of RPGs if you actually work towards being so, or have some trouble along the way. That's not the case at all in the witcher 2. All you have to do is put your next talent point in the next talent slot on you're linear talent chain, and easily rape everything that comes your way... in the same way. That's not to say there arent options you can do like use traps or bombs or refuse to use the absurdly OP quen sign, but the problem is there's no benefit towards doing so, and placing artificial handicaps on yourself is pretty lame.
It's the same with things like alchemy and potions and enhancements or crafting stuff. You CAN do that, but you can just as easily beat the game by not doing so.
As i said (before i just went on that mini rant) it kind of just all comes down to the difficulty of the game. There should be a far harder mode, but not with the dead is dead gimmick that is insane. I think it would make a better RPG if i felt like i actually accomplished something by taking advantage of the numerous, but right now tangibly worthless, options in the game. The witcher 1 i think was far more rewarding in that way.
Edit: or perhaps they could just tweak the talents to not make some absurdly powerful, negating every other useful option you could otherwise have.
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Can you still get girls cards?
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On June 25 2011 05:07 Skoop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 02:37 Bibdy wrote:
I still haven't had any inclination to reload my game after getting to the start of Act 2. The plot took a sharp right turn at crazy-town and I lost interest. Same here. I'll probably pick it up sometime in the future but nothing really drives me to pick the game back up. Does it actually get much better? or is it a similar pace through the whole game?
Yeah, I would like if someone who has finished the game can give his opinion on that, as I also feel less captivated by the story than during the first witcher, and have stopped at the same point in the game so far.
The first witcher is my favorite game of all time, no comparison, I was absorbed by the plot so much, I was really into it and was always willing to go forward, and I also enjoyed a lot of the side quests which were a lot more than just "go kill stuff".
I finished it then again, doing every single quest, and a third time also to try the different approaches to as many situations as possible (which was pretty crazy for me, because I am not a hardcore RPG fan).
But so far, the story of The Witcher 2 didn't get into me as much. I was also quite satisfied with combat in The Witcher 1, but I can't really seem to appreciate it here, most of the quests give me not that much difficulty, but now that I arrived at + Show Spoiler +the first "boss" guy encounter
I will give it a chance though, and go past that, because the first one was that good, it deserves that I put some effort into it  .
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On June 25 2011 05:43 Ulfsark wrote:
Can you still get girls cards?
No 
He's no where near as much as a pimp as he was in Witcher 1.
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On June 25 2011 05:43 Ulfsark wrote:
Can you still get girls cards?
no cards but the sex scenes are a lot better
succubus ftw
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Right now I'm playing the first one and I'm loving it! Hopefully the second one is as great as it is, which judging by the notes, I think is!
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On June 25 2011 05:16 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 04:18 Djzapz wrote:On June 25 2011 02:47 stk01001 wrote:On June 25 2011 02:17 Djzapz wrote:On June 25 2011 01:37 Skilledblob wrote:On June 25 2011 01:03 Djzapz wrote:I guess I'm weird, but I tore through the game in 2 days on Hard and didn't like it that much. The fact that I finished it goes to show that it's not a bad game though, but I still don't quite see why it's getting praised so much. People say it's my bad for not doing sidequests. I did them all in Chapter 1 and didn't like them too much. A few of the reasons why I didn't like it: + Show Spoiler +
**Note, I only did Roche's path
-Took a while to figure out combat but once I got it, it was alright. There really should be a little "tutorial" kinda thing.
-I got to Letho (first time) without any gear upgrades, so he was pretty much impossible, at least for me - had to load an old save.
-After I loaded it, I had to run around looking for materials and stuff. I don't generally mind gearing up in RPGs but it was just dreadful.
-OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIN.... OOOOOOOODRIIIIIIN --- WILL YOU SHUT UP?
-Same deal with Alchemy. Had to look online to figure out how to do it. Only drank the mandatory potions for missions and nothing more.
-I did the third chapter in about 1 hour... and the castle thing was a huge mess to navigate in.
-Boss fights are definitely not that great.
Anyway there's more stuff that bothered me but still, I'm picky I guess. I think you should better stick to first person shooters. Seems to fit your playstyle more. Nice stealth diss. Did I make you angry? I play all kinds of game and enjoy various RPGs, I just happened not to like this one. Not sure why you'd get hostile... Get over it, dude. Decided that you figured out my "playstyle" based on my opinion of TW2... You're a bit slow. Anyway don't insult people because they don't like the same games as you, we've had enough of that with the whole PS3 and Xbox360 thing, wish people like you would've learned by now. + Show Spoiler + I don't think he's insulting you... you ripped through an RPG in hard mode on two days... you obviously aren't the type that enjoys really getting into an RGP world / story and exploring etc... it seems like you rushed through the entire game for some reason. I don't think I'd be able to give a solid opinion of a game after only playing it for two days, especially an RPG. It DOES seems like your the type that would prefer other game types more and he's just pointing that out... I think your overreacting a bit... Well I see it differently. I spent hours in ME and ME2 just looking at everything, played both games 3 times to see multiple possibilities and such. Yes of course tearing through the game in 2 days isn't optimal for an RPG, but I just didn't have fun so I wanted to get it over with. Story and exploring the world didn't interest me, so even if I went and spent time looking around, I wouldn't have had more fun... Just an opinion. Do be fair, noone of those games on your desktop are classical RPGs. ME 2 has been harshly critized for being a RPG made for FPS fans by hardcore classic RPG fans. Obviously a lot of people also though it was a great improvement, but that's not my point. If you had Baldur's gate, Neverwinter Nights, Elders Scrolls, etc., I would be far more impressed by your aparent experience in classical RPGs. Or maybe something like NetHack or Rogue, but that's probally expecting a bit too much. Not trying to sound like I'm dissing you, just that there may be some truth to what the guy said, even if he didn't say it in the most friendly manner. I never had to gather materials because I'm just so used to explore every single thing and getting every single item I can, for example, something common for RPG fans. About the no alchemy thing, I played on hard using potions like 4-5 times only, not including the final boss. Sure I had to re-load some times, but after you get the hang of hit and running, while abusing Quen, it's definatelly not impossible to play without using them at all. Quen is so OP it's not even funny, it was basically the only spell I used.
I never intended to "impress" people by posting my desktop, but when someone basically implied that I should play FPS, I decided to point out that I play a variety of games. Obviously the games I have on my PC aren't everything I've played. I did play Baldur's gate and Elder Scrolls games, for instance. Skyrim is on my to-buy list. And while I was reading the guy's response, I was playing FF13 on my second monitor (a JRPG, so obviously a different genre, but I like diversity and that's the point.)
So no I don't think there's any truth to what the guy said, he made an early judgement of my character and was completely wrong. I really do think it was meant as an insult - he was saying I'm shallow or something.
Also yeah, I used Quen like crazy and never used Yrden (except for the part where it's necessary). In fact, I still don't know which one of the 2 other abilities does what. I used them both from time to time, but I mixed them up.
But basically, I didn't like the game too much, so I rushed my playthrough. Not the other way around.
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i got to that town with the swamp thingy and got a million quests, all of which sounded un-interesting. turned sc2 back on
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On June 25 2011 09:17 Destro wrote:
i got to that town with the swamp thingy and got a million quests, all of which sounded un-interesting. turned sc2 back on
If I wanted to collect spider parts I'd play WoW 
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On June 25 2011 06:02 Bleak wrote:
Right now I'm playing the first one and I'm loving it! Hopefully the second one is as great as it is, which judging by the notes, I think is!
Yes, it is. But in a different way :D
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