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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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typingit
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Liquoid
United Kingdom275 Posts
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ThePieRate
United States263 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:36 Cel.erity wrote: Having watched a lot of the videos out there, I have to say I'm very unimpressed. Combat is slow and sluggish, and the animation looks like it's moving at 5fps. I know gameplay is more important than aesthetics, but it's hard to sell your game when even HDR feels more smooth. FPS looks fine to me. And its always going to look slow until you have people who have actually mastered the game. Im sure the people you saw playing were either people who made the game or tested it. There nothing compared to pro gamers. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:17 typingit wrote: UMK3 was the last good MK game. This is so true. | ||
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x6Vhalin
United States148 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:36 Cel.erity wrote: Having watched a lot of the videos out there, I have to say I'm very unimpressed. Combat is slow and sluggish, and the animation looks like it's moving at 5fps. I know gameplay is more important than aesthetics, but it's hard to sell your game when even HDR feels more smooth. It only seems slow. Once you start playing it, it is nothing of the sort. Unlike SF games MK has combo chains and if you play against better opponents they will rape you after one mistake from you. Unlike SF games MK does not have stupid ultimates that you activate by a simple combination of moves and that do lots and lots of damage. You have to do this with combo combinations that take skill and time to master as well as need a right moment in the game to start them (like super moves in SF). I always found MK games > all others. Not to mention so much more bloody. Anyways as I do not own a console and never did I only player first 4 games (but the 4th sucked as they moved away from 2d combat arena and smooth combat). This one looks and feels like 2nd/3rd MK (the best ones). If only they made it for PCs as well  If I had some extra money I would go and buy a console just to play this MK :D | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On March 18 2011 13:04 PizzaParty wrote: A long ago with the same buddies from above we bought SF2HDRemix and MK2 on psn, and we realized how much better SF was compared to MK. All the characters in MK are the same except for the special move and the combat is slow, while SF has so much diversity and the combat is at perfect pace. If that MK2 was anything like the PC version I cannot agree with you. Maybe you just didn't play it enough. Although it seems like the basic moves are the same on all characters they were actually not. Each character needed different way to play them and learn to combine special moves with basic attacks. What I loved about MK over SF even as a beginner was that you could not win by using only special moves or only basic attacks (well except for Cabal and Raiden in MK1). In SF we would beat each other with only special moves but in MK we had to learn to combine from the start. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
On March 19 2011 05:05 -Archangel- wrote: Unlike SF games MK has combo chains and if you play against better opponents they will rape you after one mistake from you. Unlike SF games MK does not have stupid ultimates that you activate by a simple combination of moves and that do lots and lots of damage. Besides the part about SF games not having combos being completely false, MK9 does have "stupid ultimates that you activate by a simple combination of moves and that do lots of damage." I was messing around with a buddy on the demo, as Scorpion it was pretty easy to do his Xray (basically a super) on reaction to most special moves, and get a free 30-40%ish hit no matter where you are on the screen. All you have to do to activate xray is hit 3 buttons (both kicks + guard), so it's not like you even have to buffer motions to do it. I'm looking at the game with a cautious interest. I can't speak much on the competitive quality as I've never learned to play an MK game properly, but as a newbie it felt like a lot of rock, paper, scissors situations. The meterless, unblockable, fullscreen special moves that scorpion & sub zero have that hit you as long as you're on the ground are obnoxious =P It'll definitely be fun to see what happens with this game at Evo. More interesting will be who ends up as its community of players. It's been so long since a good MK game that I don't know how many tournament MK players are left, and I'm curious who from other games will try to pick it up. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On March 19 2011 05:37 Shiragaku wrote: Nothing against blood and gore but that seems to be the main focus of the game. Something about this seems really distasteful. ? It's Mortal Kombat. That's really all that needs to be said on the matter. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On March 19 2011 05:37 Shiragaku wrote: Nothing against blood and gore but that seems to be the main focus of the game. Something about this seems really distasteful. Is this your first time hearing of mortal kombat? | ||
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
On March 19 2011 05:05 -Archangel- wrote: It only seems slow. Once you start playing it, it is nothing of the sort. Unlike SF games MK has combo chains and if you play against better opponents they will rape you after one mistake from you. Unlike SF games MK does not have stupid ultimates that you activate by a simple combination of moves and that do lots and lots of damage. You have to do this with combo combinations that take skill and time to master as well as need a right moment in the game to start them (like super moves in SF). You also get raped off 1 mistake in the older SF's. SF4 not really because vitality is higher in that game and there is damage scaling to keep the game sane and not broken. Chain combos are easier to do than SF4's combo link system that require strict timing as fast as 1/60th of a second that separates the good from the bad players. At high level play landing an ultra takes a proper setup and some execution with focus attack dash cancels combos (which causes reduced damage due to combo damage scailing) which is hard for the average player to pull off against someone who knows how to defend properly. Yeah at low levels random ultras look dumb and easy to pull off.. On March 19 2011 05:12 -Archangel- wrote: If that MK2 was anything like the PC version I cannot agree with you. Maybe you just didn't play it enough. Although it seems like the basic moves are the same on all characters they were actually not. Each character needed different way to play them and learn to combine special moves with basic attacks. What I loved about MK over SF even as a beginner was that you could not win by using only special moves or only basic attacks (well except for Cabal and Raiden in MK1). In SF we would beat each other with only special moves but in MK we had to learn to combine from the start. SF is a game of controlling space (zoning) with specials & normals first (footsies), than combo game once you're inside. And when you start comboing at high level play it becomes about elaborate damage resets and frame traps. The way SF handles blocking by holding back instead of a block button introduces crossup tactics which are just too fun and adds to the games depth. In those regards, I find MK is nowhere as deep or fun as the SF series which is why SF stands the test of time as a respectable tournament game imo. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
On February 10 2011 05:08 Jibba wrote: Maybe it's just aging or the internet, but I think it's pretty stupid now, especially since those aren't very creative. MK had a particular time and place in the 90s, and it feels like they're trying to relive that but it's not working for me. I kind of agree, but having said that still kind of fun seeing the clips. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On March 19 2011 08:51 Bub wrote: Eh, seems the demo on ps3 is only available to Plus members. I ain't one and don't know if I ever will be =/ nah it should be good for all members now. i just dl'd it yesterday and am not a + member :p kinda wished the demo had online capability. but the overall game/system seems meh. tag team mode is always cool and i'm def. gonna lol when i get my hands on that tower/challenge mode | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
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