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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
April 12 2012 17:43 GMT
#8801
On April 13 2012 00:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:01 Tennet wrote:
On April 12 2012 15:58 WakaDoDo wrote:
On April 12 2012 13:55 DyEnasTy wrote:
On April 10 2012 17:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Suppression is a broken mechanic. Don't get me wrong, a game like this need suppression, but Battlefield 3 handles it poorly. If the game tells you that your sights are lined up and you pull the trigger, wouldn't the most logical thing to happen involve the bullet going where it's supposed to? Nope, apparently the most logical thing would involve bullets exiting the barrel at impossible 45 degree angles.

Maybe they could make it so your aim flinches around every time a bullet cracks by rather than forcing bullets to fly in random directions, so you can still win a 1v1 situation if you have enough control. I don't know, something logical.



Wait, maybe I have the wrong idea of what the suppression patch did. Did it change accuracy? Because I have noted a huge huge drop in accuracy lately.

afaik they only increased the duration of suppression cause by bullets further away from you. They did not increase the effect or area by which you could be suppressed. The bullets that's not superclose but just, close you to you do more then they did before. So it's much easier to suppress an opponent and the opponent will notice that he's "more" suppressed and will be heavily suppressed much more often.


The area that passing bullets can suppress you was increased, and being suppressed increases your bullet spread.

@DyEnasTy Right now the RPK with extended mag is really good because it is essentially an AR with 200 rounds. I'm assuming that is probably going to get patched through. All HMGs (PKP, M60, M240B) were buffed to the pkp damage so all of them can drop people very quickly in most ranges. The LMGs all do post patch AR damage but have a higher RoF than the HMGs.

It really depends on what you like, I don't play support much but right now a 200 round RPK is really nice. I also like the M249 due to it having a RoF of 800 which is really nice. The MG36 with Hbar might be nice, just try out each gun and see what fits you best.



I have been using the crap out of the RPK. And I dont remember seeing an extended mag option for it, but ill check again. I dont like the gun that is unlocked right after that (cant remember what its called) because I could pour myself a cocktail in the amount of time it takes to reload. I unlocked the PKP but am having a hard time wanting to use it because I only have the iron sights and that gun takes up so much of my screen while aiming.


All the machine guns except, M27IAR, RPK, QBB and MG36 take forever to reload but then again 3 seconds+ is still really long. You could always look on here at the MGs and decide yourself which one you want to use, or just trying them in game with the attachments that fit your style.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 01:29:13
April 14 2012 01:27 GMT
#8802
On April 13 2012 00:46 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:01 Tennet wrote:
On April 12 2012 15:58 WakaDoDo wrote:
On April 12 2012 13:55 DyEnasTy wrote:
On April 10 2012 17:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Suppression is a broken mechanic. Don't get me wrong, a game like this need suppression, but Battlefield 3 handles it poorly. If the game tells you that your sights are lined up and you pull the trigger, wouldn't the most logical thing to happen involve the bullet going where it's supposed to? Nope, apparently the most logical thing would involve bullets exiting the barrel at impossible 45 degree angles.

Maybe they could make it so your aim flinches around every time a bullet cracks by rather than forcing bullets to fly in random directions, so you can still win a 1v1 situation if you have enough control. I don't know, something logical.



Wait, maybe I have the wrong idea of what the suppression patch did. Did it change accuracy? Because I have noted a huge huge drop in accuracy lately.

afaik they only increased the duration of suppression cause by bullets further away from you. They did not increase the effect or area by which you could be suppressed. The bullets that's not superclose but just, close you to you do more then they did before. So it's much easier to suppress an opponent and the opponent will notice that he's "more" suppressed and will be heavily suppressed much more often.


The area that passing bullets can suppress you was increased, and being suppressed increases your bullet spread.

@DyEnasTy Right now the RPK with extended mag is really good because it is essentially an AR with 200 rounds. I'm assuming that is probably going to get patched through. All HMGs (PKP, M60, M240B) were buffed to the pkp damage so all of them can drop people very quickly in most ranges. The LMGs all do post patch AR damage but have a higher RoF than the HMGs.

It really depends on what you like, I don't play support much but right now a 200 round RPK is really nice. I also like the M249 due to it having a RoF of 800 which is really nice. The MG36 with Hbar might be nice, just try out each gun and see what fits you best.



I have been using the crap out of the RPK. And I dont remember seeing an extended mag option for it, but ill check again. I dont like the gun that is unlocked right after that (cant remember what its called) because I could pour myself a cocktail in the amount of time it takes to reload. I unlocked the PKP but am having a hard time wanting to use it because I only have the iron sights and that gun takes up so much of my screen while aiming.


Play on metro or damavand peak and get on those long corridors with your PKP if you wanna get the 10 kills to unlock a scope for it quickly. The PKP does look awkwardly big on your screen with just the iron sights, so you might wanna try pump firing with it if you think it looks too awkward: Like what the guy does here:



I stopped using my M249 as much when I unlocked the PKP. It's a pretty darn good MG.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 14 2012 03:41 GMT
#8803
that weapon review video series is sick
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
April 14 2012 05:38 GMT
#8804
Today i was in a match where i got one shot by a guy with a M26 like 10 times. Then i found this video:

[image loading]


this glitch is a huge pain in the ass.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
April 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#8805
On April 14 2012 14:38 altered wrote:
Today i was in a match where i got one shot by a guy with a M26 like 10 times. Then i found this video:

[image loading]


this glitch is a huge pain in the ass.


Oh I got destroyed by that as well the other day, I just shrugged it as wtf and kept playing had no idea about the glitch. Think I only got killed by it once or twice though so didn't realise there was something wrong.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 14 2012 08:44 GMT
#8806
I feel like my scar-H has no damage and not enough in a clip anymore. It's so hard keeping up with the guns now.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 14 2012 08:54 GMT
#8807
Also, the heavy barrel reduces the amount of damage on that? WTF
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 16:12:06
April 14 2012 15:23 GMT
#8808
My friend was in love with the Scar-H before the patch. He doesnt know any of the exact changes (except the suppression ones) but now he doesnt like it as much. I think playing as the engineer class in general is difficult for me. I cant find a gun i like.

edit: after watching some of those gun reviews on you tube, im gonna try the AK-74m.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
April 14 2012 16:37 GMT
#8809
On April 15 2012 00:23 DyEnasTy wrote:
My friend was in love with the Scar-H before the patch. He doesnt know any of the exact changes (except the suppression ones) but now he doesnt like it as much. I think playing as the engineer class in general is difficult for me. I cant find a gun i like.

edit: after watching some of those gun reviews on you tube, im gonna try the AK-74m.


g36c or m4 are great. dont like most of the others/didnt try them, after patch. g36 got a buff afair and m4 was unchanged so they still should be good ~~
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#8810
The M4 is what I have been using, but I dunno if Im a huge fan of it. Ill try the g36 tonight.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
April 14 2012 20:48 GMT
#8811
The Scar-H got a min damage buff (17 -> 20) The recoil decrease was nerfed from 15 -> 13 (I am not 100% sure what this does but it has something to do with recentering your gun between shots, higher values are better). The only other changes are attachments which is mostly the culprit for making it feel different etc.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
April 15 2012 01:19 GMT
#8812
FFS IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THIS STUPID RUBBER BANDING!??!?!
it's so random, sometimes i don't get it and sometimes i do. I had to quit playing 48 or 64 player games because of the horrendous rubber banding. My PC is good enough to run this at ultra setting, so could this be the network issue? or is it the server?!?!? Is there NO WAY to fix this?! It makes this great game unplayable.
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
April 15 2012 01:50 GMT
#8813
What is Rubber banding?
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
April 15 2012 01:57 GMT
#8814
Imagine you are trying to run but there is a rubber band around your waist pulling you back.. it's basically like that in game. It generally happens when you have really high ping, aka internet issue.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 15 2012 02:01 GMT
#8815
Who the fuck actually knows how to fly planes good? Seriously if you do i would love for you to make some sort of guide i would love you forever, i don't get to play that often (I play on my friends computer back home when i can). But i have been trying to get good at flying, literally i spend 4 hours one day in just a flight training and i was getting so pissed cause i couldn't get decent

I can fly and do barrel rolls but in a dog fight i get owned like OWNED
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 15 2012 02:07 GMT
#8816


Hey look, maps where you can die a second after taking cover.
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
April 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#8817
On April 15 2012 11:07 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Hey look, maps where you can die a second after taking cover.

Don't need Close Quarters for that, lol <3

If you want to become good at flying, get a Joystick first and then train and train and train so you can abuse Jets and rape everything that exists in that game and be happy :D
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 15 2012 02:59 GMT
#8818
Lol, yeah. I'm just confused as to why DICE would release maps that would highlight the flaws in BF3's netcode, lol.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#8819
On April 15 2012 10:19 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
FFS IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THIS STUPID RUBBER BANDING!??!?!
it's so random, sometimes i don't get it and sometimes i do. I had to quit playing 48 or 64 player games because of the horrendous rubber banding. My PC is good enough to run this at ultra setting, so could this be the network issue? or is it the server?!?!? Is there NO WAY to fix this?! It makes this great game unplayable.



I had to quit the game for a week because it got so bad. Its probably your internet, cause thats what my issue ended up being.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
April 15 2012 20:25 GMT
#8820
I don't think it's my internet... I am frequently doing the internet speed test and I am getting about 11 MB/s. I surf and watch youtube and download stuff totally fine at very fast speed. The only thing lagging and pissing me off is BW and BF3.
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