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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 02 2011 06:42 GMT
#1421
On November 02 2011 13:27 Jayrod wrote:
its like a 50+ hour nature hike.

That's the appeal.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 02 2011 07:02 GMT
#1422
On November 02 2011 15:22 Hikko wrote:
I haven't preordered many games on Steam, can you pre-download most of the game before 11.11.11, or do I need to DL the game the day of?

Yes you can pre-load it, and it'd be encrypted until the 11.11.11 so you should be able to play anywhere between 10 past to half past midnight depending on your pc.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 07:04:00
November 02 2011 07:03 GMT
#1423
On November 02 2011 16:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 15:22 Hikko wrote:
I haven't preordered many games on Steam, can you pre-download most of the game before 11.11.11, or do I need to DL the game the day of?

Yes you can pre-load it, and it'd be encrypted until the 11.11.11 so you should be able to play anywhere between 10 past to half past midnight depending on your pc.


Is Midnigt PST or EST? (or my local time?)
♥
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 02 2011 08:42 GMT
#1424
So I have never played any RPG but WoW on PC, why do people seem to be insisting that if you have the option you play this on PC over 360.

Is there something besides graphics? (I am aware of the graphics discrepancies)

I prefer to have all my rpgs on 360 for non gameplay reasons. Primarily being that much of the time I am away from home/computer/internet and I appreciate a library of 360 games to play at these times.

What are you missing out on gameplay wise? I thought of...

1) graphics
2) Hotkeys are a bitch
3) No mods? Never used any, why does this matter

Anything else?

P.S. I have a kickass computer that can definitely play this on highest level. How large is the graphics discrepancy between highend pc and 360?
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
November 02 2011 08:46 GMT
#1425
On November 02 2011 17:42 Atreides wrote:
So I have never played any RPG but WoW on PC, why do people seem to be insisting that if you have the option you play this on PC over 360.

Is there something besides graphics? (I am aware of the graphics discrepancies)

I prefer to have all my rpgs on 360 for non gameplay reasons. Primarily being that much of the time I am away from home/computer/internet and I appreciate a library of 360 games to play at these times.

What are you missing out on gameplay wise? I thought of...

1) graphics
2) Hotkeys are a bitch
3) No mods? Never used any, why does this matter

Anything else?

P.S. I have a kickass computer that can definitely play this on highest level. How large is the graphics discrepancy between highend pc and 360?


as for #3, I know there are people who hate the vanilla Oblivion but love modded versions, but I guess thats more for the hardcore people. I'd say if you don't mind those 3 things go for the xbox.
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
November 02 2011 08:51 GMT
#1426
Controlscheme and mods are the reason I'd value it higher for PC than consoles. Funny enough, it's even priced higher on consoles it seems.

Hotkeys just makes the game flow alot easier, and mods can do pretty much anything, so if there's even the smallest thing bothering you, mod mod change change, and poff, the game is suddenly even better!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 09:05:26
November 02 2011 09:00 GMT
#1427
Guys don't write off the mods, the modding scene for TES:4 was freaking awesome, and there was so much additional content it was insane, most of the mods I had added some really awesome quests that felt like entire stories. Some of the mods made the game more immersive, and some were just simple UI mods, I think darnified UI was the one I used.

OOO and Francescos, and Martigens though.. I highly recommend playing Oblivion with those three, it might as well not be called Oblivion.

You can also find mods for cool looking weapons, better textures, more towns/cities, more magic spells, better graphics, new dungeons, new monsters/big boss guys/loot makes more sense.. new high quality quests.. etc. And just hold on for a minute, most of this stuff is about 500x more content than any DLC that will be released and it's completely free.

So pretty much by getting on PC you can potentially get infinite more quality content than you can get on console.

TES nexus and the tl forums will help you sort through the bad and the good mods, there will be guides to help you get your game working properly with the mods and of course the game will probably have to be out for awhile until the good mods start rolling out.

Now I'm an Xbox 360 fan, and I play shooters on console(other than BF3), but when it comes to Oblivion, the console version is pretty much crap compared to the pc content available, just make sure when you go buy this for 360 or PS3 you absolutely just want the vanilla version.

Neeh is correct that if you don't like something about the game, you can find a mod to change it. Say you don't like the leveling system or class system, change it. Don't like the UI? Change it. Game is too easy? Change it. Your wooden sword is too powerful at beginning of game, and you don't like how all the enemies scale to your level or whatever BS was in Oblivion? Change it. Want additional races not included, add one. Want a new quest that has a pretty sweet plot, install it. Want a super fucking cool sword that causes those you hit to burst into flames and turn to ash, put it in. Want a sweet looking dragon mount? Probably going to be modded in. Want a spell that turns you into a dragon? Probably going to be modded in. etc
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 02 2011 09:04 GMT
#1428
On November 02 2011 16:03 Hikko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 16:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On November 02 2011 15:22 Hikko wrote:
I haven't preordered many games on Steam, can you pre-download most of the game before 11.11.11, or do I need to DL the game the day of?

Yes you can pre-load it, and it'd be encrypted until the 11.11.11 so you should be able to play anywhere between 10 past to half past midnight depending on your pc.


Is Midnigt PST or EST? (or my local time?)

I think it's dependant on the location your steam profile is set to, but honestly I've never thought to check. All I know is I can play just after midnight @ +8 GMT
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Trump
Profile Joined April 2010
United States350 Posts
November 02 2011 09:05 GMT
#1429
so I'm obviously super excited for skyrim! yaaa! I'll be playing (and streaming) it day it comes out. Need my rpg fix.
Polling the skyrim lovers on the direction of play. So far the alignment's been voted on, combat style is up!

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 09:16:56
November 02 2011 09:15 GMT
#1430
On November 02 2011 17:46 Bloodash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 17:42 Atreides wrote:
So I have never played any RPG but WoW on PC, why do people seem to be insisting that if you have the option you play this on PC over 360.

Is there something besides graphics? (I am aware of the graphics discrepancies)

I prefer to have all my rpgs on 360 for non gameplay reasons. Primarily being that much of the time I am away from home/computer/internet and I appreciate a library of 360 games to play at these times.

What are you missing out on gameplay wise? I thought of...

1) graphics
2) Hotkeys are a bitch
3) No mods? Never used any, why does this matter

Anything else?

P.S. I have a kickass computer that can definitely play this on highest level. How large is the graphics discrepancy between highend pc and 360?


as for #3, I know there are people who hate the vanilla Oblivion but love modded versions, but I guess thats more for the hardcore people. I'd say if you don't mind those 3 things go for the xbox.


It really isn't - gameplay benefits of mods is something that I'm pretty sure everybody would appreciate. It's the installation and configuration part that's for the "hardcore people", but anyone can do it really.

Here's some advantages of mods I have on my Oblivion right now:

- Better graphics, vastly improved NPC models, better looking landscapes, better textures, animated trees and plants and birds and fish etc
- Additional provinces (Elsweyr, Morrowind and Hammerfell) all with unique dungeons, landscapes, monsters etc, basically the world is 3x bigger.
- Dual wielding, horse combat and spellcasting, revamped combat mechanics that make combat more interesting (special moves, block, shield bash, kicks etc and all of it carefully balanced).
- Bigger diversity of enemies (Dragons!), loot, mounts (Dragons again! xD), and generally a ton of content. New lands, quests, factions, blah blah.
- Tons of other added unique gameplay mechanics, especially magic-related.
- Better user interface with proper hotkeys, grid display, and other stuff.

These are just off the top of my head, there are tons of things that I can't even remember right now. When I'm in the game, I literally no longer remember which part of it is modded and which was there in vanilla and official expansions. It's barely recognizable.

Basically when you're considering mods you're asking yourself whether you want tons of free content for the game in the next several years (all of which is of better quality than the vanilla game), or... nothing. You're really missing out on a ton of stuff.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 02 2011 09:20 GMT
#1431
On November 02 2011 18:00 BlueBird. wrote:
Guys don't write off the mods, the modding scene for TES:4 was freaking awesome, and there was so much additional content it was insane, most of the mods I had added some really awesome quests that felt like entire stories. Some of the mods made the game more immersive, and some were just simple UI mods, I think darnified UI was the one I used.

OOO and Francescos, and Martigens though.. I highly recommend playing Oblivion with those three, it might as well not be called Oblivion.

You can also find mods for cool looking weapons, better textures, more towns/cities, more magic spells, better graphics, new dungeons, new monsters/big boss guys/loot makes more sense.. new high quality quests.. etc. And just hold on for a minute, most of this stuff is about 500x more content than any DLC that will be released and it's completely free.

So pretty much by getting on PC you can potentially get infinite more quality content than you can get on console.

TES nexus and the tl forums will help you sort through the bad and the good mods, there will be guides to help you get your game working properly with the mods and of course the game will probably have to be out for awhile until the good mods start rolling out.

Now I'm an Xbox 360 fan, and I play shooters on console(other than BF3), but when it comes to Oblivion, the console version is pretty much crap compared to the pc content available, just make sure when you go buy this for 360 or PS3 you absolutely just want the vanilla version.

Neeh is correct that if you don't like something about the game, you can find a mod to change it. Say you don't like the leveling system or class system, change it. Don't like the UI? Change it. Game is too easy? Change it. Your wooden sword is too powerful at beginning of game, and you don't like how all the enemies scale to your level or whatever BS was in Oblivion? Change it. Want additional races not included, add one. Want a new quest that has a pretty sweet plot, install it. Want a super fucking cool sword that causes those you hit to burst into flames and turn to ash, put it in. Want a sweet looking dragon mount? Probably going to be modded in. Want a spell that turns you into a dragon? Probably going to be modded in. etc


Nehrim: at fate's edge is a whole new WORLD made in the oblivion engine and it's as big as the original one with custom and very good looking items and professional voice acting.
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iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
November 02 2011 09:27 GMT
#1432
Spoiler from stream, don't click if you care about spoilers

+ Show Spoiler +
Bethesda lied to us! Werewolves are in the game after all. You can become one once you get advance far enough in the Companions.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Thorg23
Profile Joined October 2010
United States19 Posts
November 02 2011 09:28 GMT
#1433
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2011 18:00 BlueBird. wrote:
Guys don't write off the mods, the modding scene for TES:4 was freaking awesome, and there was so much additional content it was insane, most of the mods I had added some really awesome quests that felt like entire stories. Some of the mods made the game more immersive, and some were just simple UI mods, I think darnified UI was the one I used.

OOO and Francescos, and Martigens though.. I highly recommend playing Oblivion with those three, it might as well not be called Oblivion.

You can also find mods for cool looking weapons, better textures, more towns/cities, more magic spells, better graphics, new dungeons, new monsters/big boss guys/loot makes more sense.. new high quality quests.. etc. And just hold on for a minute, most of this stuff is about 500x more content than any DLC that will be released and it's completely free.

So pretty much by getting on PC you can potentially get infinite more quality content than you can get on console.

TES nexus and the tl forums will help you sort through the bad and the good mods, there will be guides to help you get your game working properly with the mods and of course the game will probably have to be out for awhile until the good mods start rolling out.

Now I'm an Xbox 360 fan, and I play shooters on console(other than BF3), but when it comes to Oblivion, the console version is pretty much crap compared to the pc content available, just make sure when you go buy this for 360 or PS3 you absolutely just want the vanilla version.

Neeh is correct that if you don't like something about the game, you can find a mod to change it. Say you don't like the leveling system or class system, change it. Don't like the UI? Change it. Game is too easy? Change it. Your wooden sword is too powerful at beginning of game, and you don't like how all the enemies scale to your level or whatever BS was in Oblivion? Change it. Want additional races not included, add one. Want a new quest that has a pretty sweet plot, install it. Want a super fucking cool sword that causes those you hit to burst into flames and turn to ash, put it in. Want a sweet looking dragon mount? Probably going to be modded in. Want a spell that turns you into a dragon? Probably going to be modded in. etc


Another thing worth noting is that bethesda games tend to be pretty buggy due to the huge worlds and immense amount of npcs, quests, and variables. If you run into a game breaking bug on a console you either pray you have have an unaffected save to reload or hope bethesda eventually fixes it. But on PC, not only are there many unofficial patch mods available that fix most of those bugs, but if you still run into a huge problem there is usually a developer console command (which ironically is always disabled on the console version) that can fix the issue.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 09:31:51
November 02 2011 09:29 GMT
#1434
On November 02 2011 17:42 Atreides wrote:
So I have never played any RPG but WoW on PC, why do people seem to be insisting that if you have the option you play this on PC over 360.

Is there something besides graphics? (I am aware of the graphics discrepancies)

I prefer to have all my rpgs on 360 for non gameplay reasons. Primarily being that much of the time I am away from home/computer/internet and I appreciate a library of 360 games to play at these times.

What are you missing out on gameplay wise? I thought of...

1) graphics
2) Hotkeys are a bitch
3) No mods? Never used any, why does this matter

Anything else?

P.S. I have a kickass computer that can definitely play this on highest level. How large is the graphics discrepancy between highend pc and 360?


Better graphics, control scheme usually works better, easier to deal with game bugs/glitches with either patches or console commands (bethesda games are notorious for having a ton of bugs/glitches on release), and most importantly the ability to heavily mod the game, and get much faster updates/fixes for the game. The modding is the biggest part, mostly because a lot of people didn't much like vanilla Oblivion, or just thought it was decent, and by installing a simple mod here or there it made the game much more enjoyable for a lot of people. The modding community and content will be no different for Skyrim, you'll see a billion mods released for it over the coming year to enhance and customize your game experience the way you like it.
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:57:27
November 02 2011 10:41 GMT
#1435
I'm a complete new comer to the world of elder scrolls, my room-mate gave me a little bit of the gist of what I could expoect but I'm really, really looking forward to this game.

is there anything I should pre know before I get into this game? or should I go in with fresh eyes?
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 02 2011 11:04 GMT
#1436
On November 02 2011 19:41 annYeong(o11) wrote:
I'm a complete new comer to the world of elder scrolls, my room-mate gave me a little bit of the gist of what I could expoect but I'm really, really looking forward to this game.

is there anything I should pre know before I get into this game? or should I go in with fresh eyes?


More fun to go in not knowing what to expect. Thats kind of the charm of the TES games.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
November 02 2011 11:54 GMT
#1437
On November 02 2011 20:04 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 19:41 annYeong(o11) wrote:
I'm a complete new comer to the world of elder scrolls, my room-mate gave me a little bit of the gist of what I could expoect but I'm really, really looking forward to this game.

is there anything I should pre know before I get into this game? or should I go in with fresh eyes?


More fun to go in not knowing what to expect. Thats kind of the charm of the TES games.



That was a lot of what I liked about dragon age origins. Alright, cold feet it is, see you guys in like 9 days :D
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 02 2011 12:16 GMT
#1438
I must say, i was given morrowind years ago for free, i played it a little bit but couldnt really get into it (MY pc would barely run it) and i have never used any mods. I was given it again for the xbox and again picked it up, did a few fighters / mages guild quests started exploring and went into the moutain in the middle and ended up killing what i later found out to be the end boss.

When i found that out i thought "lol wtf retarded?" i was like level 7 - stolen full glass armor and i just couldnt for the life of me figure out how or why i could achieve the end game scenario at like 10 in game hours.

I have now realised that this is NOT what TES is about, its so much more. Roaming the lands exploring, doing quests and crushing skulls is what it is about.

Now dont get me wrong, i had a look in a fair few morrowind dungeons and the vanilla mob list - it was shit, nothing cool or epic looking or remotely powerful to fight.

A few days ago i installed my unopened copy of Oblivion and modded it with OOO and Mortigens. I spent the last few days clearing out vivien (not sure of exact name, the dungeon on the island straight across from sewers exit at beginning) alone. I have so much fun playing, im level one and get torn apart, any bandit i ran into with anything more then a small sword would crush me, im forced to strafe back spamming minor heal spell and firing arrows. I finally break through the bandits to be chased fully back to the stables near shady sam by four zombies searching for guards to deal with them for me. Only to find skeletons that die in 4 hits to arrows (result!) so i proceed further in and go down to the 2nd level, big mistake! Few steps in, gate comes down behind me and im 2 hit by a spectral dog who came up behind me while i contemplated wether to engage another spectral dude in a big chamber.

I just pre ordered skyrim :D:D I apologise for the long ass stupid post, i just wanted to express my find of this awesome game and my first experiences with it. Vanilla TES i feel are quite poor, after experiencing morrowind. but the mods are fucking awesome.

See you in 9 days! Im going back to try and crush oblivion before that xD
Useless wet fish.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
November 02 2011 16:05 GMT
#1439
On November 02 2011 15:42 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 13:27 Jayrod wrote:
its like a 50+ hour nature hike.

That's the appeal.



200+ hours please.
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
November 02 2011 16:51 GMT
#1440
Olo @ those compairing skyrim with that shitty dark souls

See i can do that as well

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