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On October 30 2011 22:27 ArYeS wrote:I have decided yesterday that my first character will be permadeath  I just want to try and be caraful about everything.. maybe i'll last whole weekend, maybe just few hours. I will also tweet story of my character from start to the end As for next character, I will play him normally with loading, I will go put some candles on grave of first character thou.
Don't forget the max difficulty.
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On October 31 2011 06:41 WiljushkA wrote:
looks like bethesda couldnt make good animations if thier lives depended on it... or dialogue and voice acting.
ah well, didnt look forward to the game for those reasons anyway, at least the world looks not too generic (although the graphics in the vid were terrible, but thats xbawx anyway).
Ah, NVM
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Have they come out and said what races are playable in this or are you just going off Oblivion races?
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On October 31 2011 07:21 Lewfen wrote:
Have they come out and said what races are playable in this or are you just going off Oblivion races?
It's always been 10, always will be.
actually you couldn't play imperial in first ES game but meh lol
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On October 31 2011 07:25 Geovu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 07:21 Lewfen wrote:
Have they come out and said what races are playable in this or are you just going off Oblivion races? It's always been 10, always will be. actually you couldn't play imperial in first ES game but meh lol
Orc and Imperial weren't playable in the first 2 games.
In Skyrim there will be 10 races but there are more non extinct races in the lore which didn't make appearances so far in the games.
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On October 31 2011 06:58 Skilledblob wrote:
the dude playing did not collect all the valueable stuff what a noob :>
Oh my god this, everytime he just walked past stuff i felt like pulling me eyes out..
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goes to show you what scrubs play betas. No surprise we get so much shity games even though they had a beta 
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It's not a beta in the public beta, SCII or BF3 style sense...it's just an incomplete version of the game.
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I tried to hold out and not watch to avoid spoilers, but the temptation was just too much. Argh I want to play so bad after watching those videos.
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On October 31 2011 09:14 DystopiaX wrote:
It's not a beta in the public beta, SCII or BF3 style sense...it's just an incomplete version of the game.
I know that but still doesnt change what I said. Even if it's closed there can be scrubs playing it and giving feedback
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On October 31 2011 09:28 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 09:14 DystopiaX wrote:
It's not a beta in the public beta, SCII or BF3 style sense...it's just an incomplete version of the game. I know that but still doesnt change what I said. Even if it's closed there can be scrubs playing it and giving feedback
Even if so, I don't think Skyrim will be shitty  .
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On October 31 2011 09:28 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 09:14 DystopiaX wrote:
It's not a beta in the public beta, SCII or BF3 style sense...it's just an incomplete version of the game. I know that but still doesnt change what I said. Even if it's closed there can be scrubs playing it and giving feedback
idk about Bethesda but other devs have specifically said that they try to get all kinds of people to test their games (inexperienced gamers, gamers with no familiarity of the genre, gamers who know the genre but not the franchise, gamers who know the franchise, gamers who only play the MP of the franchise, etc.). So it's highly likely that whoever was playing this was selected BECAUSE he was a noob, not cause he's good at RPGs.
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On October 31 2011 10:01 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 09:28 Skilledblob wrote:On October 31 2011 09:14 DystopiaX wrote:
It's not a beta in the public beta, SCII or BF3 style sense...it's just an incomplete version of the game. I know that but still doesnt change what I said. Even if it's closed there can be scrubs playing it and giving feedback idk about Bethesda but other devs have specifically said that they try to get all kinds of people to test their games (inexperienced gamers, gamers with no familiarity of the genre, gamers who know the genre but not the franchise, gamers who know the franchise, gamers who only play the MP of the franchise, etc.). So it's highly likely that whoever was playing this was selected BECAUSE he was a noob, not cause he's good at RPGs.
Exactly, they need to know how accesable their game is going to be, and that is how they do it, by getting inexperienced gamers, to try and test the game.
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Okay, just got back from Barnes and Nobles with my leather bound journal filled with line-less, off white paper. I am so pumped for Hardcore Skyrim!
It is going to be so much fun exploring the world and walking (or stealing a horse and riding) everywhere, and marking down anything of interest on my self drawn map. It should be cool to actually listen to what NPCs have to say and the names of things and directions to get there instead of just following a marker. And all of those topics to ask people about how to get there that you would never bother with in Oblivion, now I have a reason to bring it up.
I wonder if I should force myself not to use the 'wait' button. To never use it to regen health instantly in the middle of nowhere and instead only sleep in a real bed in an inn or my home (once I finally can get a home). That is what I did in Oblivion when I got bored and boy did it make things harder. Well, that and FCOM.
What kind of character should I be? Some where in the spectrum from pure mage to pure warrior. I was never much for stealth. Should I be good or evil. Should I never steal a horse of food, or take what I want and ride from town to town on horses that run away as soon as I dismount? Should I be insane, and flip out and kill everyone in the room whenever a certain phrase is said? (My sister's character had a special set a pajamas, a necromancer robe and mythic dawn hood, that, if ever not on her character, would force her character into a frenzy, killing everyone in the room. Going to jail was problematic, they take your pajamas and force you to sleep. She had a big bounty...)
I am so excited for this game! I have no doubt that I will spend far more time playing it than I will be proud to admit to other people. Picking this up on Friday, at midnight if the best buy next to me if they have a midnight release, and have already informed my girlfriend that I will not be available for that Friday and Saturday. I don't know if I will even sleep that weekend.
I am so excited for this game.
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On October 31 2011 10:14 Vilonis wrote:
What kind of character should I be? Some where in the spectrum from pure mage to pure warrior. I was never much for stealth. Should I be good or evil. Should I never steal a horse of food, or take what I want and ride from town to town on horses that run away as soon as I dismount? Should I be insane, and flip out and kill everyone in the room whenever a certain phrase is said? (My sister's character had a special set a pajamas, a necromancer robe and mythic dawn hood, that, if ever not on her character, would force her character into a frenzy, killing everyone in the room. Going to jail was problematic, they take your pajamas and force you to sleep. She had a big bounty...)
You should be a character that is most like yourself. I don't think setting a strict standard on a first playthrough of an open-world RPG would be cool. I personally made a little backstory of my character's personality traits and his own little morale code that reflect me, and that's what I'm going to go by when I play.
edit: Now obviously, most of us wouldn't flat out kill people and steal whatever the fuck we want, but in the "time period" that game is set in, society wasn't as structured for a common man, so crimes weren't as big of a deal if it meant your survival/if you could get away with it/getting fuckloads of money. I'd keep that into consideration too.
^and all of this is my personal opinion on how a rpg character should be "made."
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On October 31 2011 10:25 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 10:14 Vilonis wrote:
What kind of character should I be? Some where in the spectrum from pure mage to pure warrior. I was never much for stealth. Should I be good or evil. Should I never steal a horse of food, or take what I want and ride from town to town on horses that run away as soon as I dismount? Should I be insane, and flip out and kill everyone in the room whenever a certain phrase is said? (My sister's character had a special set a pajamas, a necromancer robe and mythic dawn hood, that, if ever not on her character, would force her character into a frenzy, killing everyone in the room. Going to jail was problematic, they take your pajamas and force you to sleep. She had a big bounty...)
You should be a character that is most like yourself. I don't think setting a strict standard on a first playthrough of an open-world RPG would be cool. I personally made a little backstory of my character's personality traits and his own little morale code that reflect me, and that's what I'm going to go by when I play. edit: Now obviously, most of us wouldn't flat out kill people and steal whatever the fuck we want, but in the "time period" that game is set in, society wasn't as structured for a common man, so crimes weren't as big of a deal if it meant your survival/if you could get away with it/getting fuckloads of money. I'd keep that into consideration too. ^and all of this is my personal opinion on how a rpg character should be "made."
I don't have any real hard-set rules. In terms of gameplay I just look at whatever looks most awesome/fun to play and decide to play as that (for skyrim one-handed weapons+shield, bow+arrow, and restoration magic). For karma systems I pick one based on how I'm feeling, and if I want to role-play a character with a specific personality and backstory I'll do it. I don't really like sticking to one rule (my character is always insane/evil/acts like me, etc.), I just get ideas on how I want to play (in Skyrim it's generally a noble/well-meaning character that doesn't have a strict moral code) and play that way.
My advice would be to think about when you had the most fun on a full playthrough of Oblivion or look at previews, and figure out what kind of character you'd have the most fun with. Any specific advice anyone gives you (play as a mage, etc.) will likely be biased or be exactly the way they're playing, because that's how they have fun.
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I just hope they don't do the same 'spell effectiveness' thing they did in Oblivion. There should be a trade off for wearing armor, like speed reduction, increased noise, etc, but reducing spell effectiveness is not my favorite way to do it. And I want to play a battlemage.
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^IMO they could balance that by keeping spell effectiveness in but introducing a class of armors conducive to "battlemages", so they give moderate buffs to both spellcasting and armor/defense.
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if they wouldn't have spell effectiveness, it seems that a knight-mage character could roll through the game.
edit: doesn't light armor provide a middle ground for battle mages?
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On October 31 2011 13:37 Whole wrote:
if they wouldn't have spell effectiveness, it seems that a knight-mage character could roll through the game.
edit: doesn't light armor provide a middle ground for battle mages?
I guess, I was just talking about having sets of armor specifically buff magic users as well, not just having kind of an unofficial middle ground.
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