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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 18:28:27
December 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#11241
yeah, playing again since today as i got dragonborn.


Not sure about SkyRe and my bow playtrough, i currently 2 shot everything. But im only like lvl 8. Maybe i just up the difficulty as i die in 1 hit allready anyways, basically.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#11242
I never understand people thanking a developer for the time and effort put in by other people. Shouldn't it be "thank you, modders, for fixing all of the hideous flaws this game has"?
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 20:09 GMT
#11243
You're taking it a bit too personally there mate.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 01 2013 20:21 GMT
#11244
So, what the hell ^^
My bow dmg is ok now, but Lydia is now just killing everyone.
2 Master vampires? np, Lydia got this in 3 seconds...
Guess i have to fight solo.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#11245
On December 02 2013 05:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
You're taking it a bit too personally there mate.


I suppose it's a pet peeve of mine. Vanilla Neverwinter Nights was the biggest offender. That game sucked. It also had a good enough community and toolset to be one of the best playing experiences in the genre.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 21:21 GMT
#11246
nah, I know how you feel. It's miscrediting and its a bit unfair, even if it doesn't have anything to do with you personally.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
December 01 2013 21:27 GMT
#11247
On December 02 2013 05:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I never understand people thanking a developer for the time and effort put in by other people. Shouldn't it be "thank you, modders, for fixing all of the hideous flaws this game has"?


Where did I say I thanked Bethesda for the mod SkyRe? I thanked Bethesda because of Skyrim, because of the fact that even after two years and many playthroughs, the game is still so much fun.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#11248
We all like Skyrim, forget the rest yo.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 13:27:56
December 06 2013 13:25 GMT
#11249
Damn this game.

Maybe it's the way I play but the game play gets broken (too easy) pretty quick and I end up quitting.

If I play stealth:
Just use a bow and 1 shot everything cross map. EZPZ

If I don't play stealth:
Well I'll just level smithing to get the next weapon/tempering grade into well I'm now 91 smithing and I have legedendary Daedric weapon.
Well I'm still not killing fast enough. Get another 100% DMG or so from enchanting.

It happens every damn time.

Also haggling level 1 is the most important perk in the game by far.

E: Also always picking stamina when I level up...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 06 2013 13:34 GMT
#11250
Well, install SkyRe and "Higher level enemies" and ASIS.

that will do the trick.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 06 2013 14:09 GMT
#11251
Why would you play this game without mods, lol.
Use Deadly Combat, Asis, Path of Shadows, Dragon Overhaul and cry until you realise you have to have a sidekick to absorb some damage or you can't do anything.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
December 06 2013 14:24 GMT
#11252
On December 06 2013 22:25 iTzSnypah wrote:
Damn this game.

Maybe it's the way I play but the game play gets broken (too easy) pretty quick and I end up quitting.

If I play stealth:
Just use a bow and 1 shot everything cross map. EZPZ

If I don't play stealth:
Well I'll just level smithing to get the next weapon/tempering grade into well I'm now 91 smithing and I have legedendary Daedric weapon.
Well I'm still not killing fast enough. Get another 100% DMG or so from enchanting.

It happens every damn time.

Also haggling level 1 is the most important perk in the game by far.

E: Also always picking stamina when I level up...

This is honestly why I stopped playing the game. It looks awesome, and in theory, the "do what you want, and get skill points, develop a class that fits your playstyle" sounds appealing, but due to how the game scales the difficulty, it's nonsensical to follow. Instead, you're pretty much forced to adapt the pre-destined optimal paths which you described, at elast if you want to play on proper difficulties.

There's of course also the problem of how armor works. If you go a stealth path or bow path, you won't level armor skills much, unless you specifically go out of your way to do so. This will come back and bite you seriously in the butt later on, especially in story-related quests where stealth is no longer an option.

I dunno. I've always loved the TES games, but if the designers intend on giving the players as much freedom as possible to develop their unique character builds, then this system doesn't really cut it once you've progressed a bit into it. That's my main gripe with the game, in any case - the suggestion of freedom being watered down to coercion of limited choice.

This game is still the most beautiful Norway simulator, however. Gonna reinstall and grab some mods during christmas. ;3
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 06 2013 15:27 GMT
#11253
@plated.rawr,
that is the point its all about the illusion of choice. Like you said if they truthfully wanted all paths to viable you would have a "non combat" option much like Dishonored does with stealthing/incapication. Instead the game has moments where literally the only option you have is fight, even though as a stealther you should have skills that blind/create distractions allowing you to escape.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 06 2013 15:40 GMT
#11254
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.

iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 06 2013 15:43 GMT
#11255
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.


I never said I wasn't using mods. It's pretty funny that everyone so far has assumed that.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 06 2013 15:47 GMT
#11256
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 16:09:07
December 06 2013 16:08 GMT
#11257
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.




the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 16:17:06
December 06 2013 16:16 GMT
#11258
On December 07 2013 01:08 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.

the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.


40k online players? LOL how many are playing the base game with no mods? The numbers mean nothing, it is shitty if the only reasonable way to fix the problems with the base game is to install a bunch of 3rd party mods. You still haven't addressed that point.

Btw, I hate playing stealth class, thanks for making another one of your assumptions that to me make you look like a rabid fan boi. I said it was an "illusion of choice" which once again you haven't addressed, I even gave you an example of a game that did it right.

So instead of saying "well install this mod it makes the game better" or "you want x so do y", why not address these 2 points:

If the game is so bad and unplayable at the base level that the community has to make its own fixes, how does that not make the game a giant pile of buggy crap?

If they wanted us to truly "play and go where you want" why do they pigeon hole us into fighting repeatedly, like "stealth" for instance, that works similar to dishonored where you can stealth and play literally the whole game without ever killing someone?


I even made them bold so you'd see. Kk thx bai.


User was temp banned for this post.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 06 2013 16:24 GMT
#11259
Skyrim is not unplayable at base level wtf. Mods naturally add to things, it's what they do and it's great there's such a variety to choose from, but base Skyrim is totally playable game. If you don't like it that much...well fucking tough. Go find another game or get the mods. I wonder if anyone out there ever played Skyrim on a console, because I heard consoles and mods don't mix too well >_>
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 06 2013 17:03 GMT
#11260
On December 07 2013 01:16 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 01:08 LaNague wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.

the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.


40k online players? LOL how many are playing the base game with no mods? The numbers mean nothing, it is shitty if the only reasonable way to fix the problems with the base game is to install a bunch of 3rd party mods. You still haven't addressed that point.

Btw, I hate playing stealth class, thanks for making another one of your assumptions that to me make you look like a rabid fan boi. I said it was an "illusion of choice" which once again you haven't addressed, I even gave you an example of a game that did it right.

So instead of saying "well install this mod it makes the game better" or "you want x so do y", why not address these 2 points:

If the game is so bad and unplayable at the base level that the community has to make its own fixes, how does that not make the game a giant pile of buggy crap?

If they wanted us to truly "play and go where you want" why do they pigeon hole us into fighting repeatedly, like "stealth" for instance, that works similar to dishonored where you can stealth and play literally the whole game without ever killing someone?


I even made them bold so you'd see. Kk thx bai.


Grow up. I played the game from start to finish with a good portion of the side/optional quest lines finished. The game was fine. I didn't need a trillion mods to make it enjoyable, nor do I doubt that mods make the experience both vastly different and/or improved. In fact I took a long break from completing the main story line, forgot about the main story line multiple times, then realized the game did in fact had a main story line and I should probably wrap it up.

I find it funny that you decide to use Dishonored as an example when that game's overall implementation of its mechanics is a damn joke. The illusion of choice is pretty every single game, not sure why you are harping on Skyrim.

It's like you actually bought into the hype...
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