• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:17
CET 04:17
KST 12:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)12Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker8PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)12Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1909 users

Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim - Page 563

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 561 562 563 564 565 586 Next
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 18:28:27
December 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#11241
yeah, playing again since today as i got dragonborn.


Not sure about SkyRe and my bow playtrough, i currently 2 shot everything. But im only like lvl 8. Maybe i just up the difficulty as i die in 1 hit allready anyways, basically.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#11242
I never understand people thanking a developer for the time and effort put in by other people. Shouldn't it be "thank you, modders, for fixing all of the hideous flaws this game has"?
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 20:09 GMT
#11243
You're taking it a bit too personally there mate.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 01 2013 20:21 GMT
#11244
So, what the hell ^^
My bow dmg is ok now, but Lydia is now just killing everyone.
2 Master vampires? np, Lydia got this in 3 seconds...
Guess i have to fight solo.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#11245
On December 02 2013 05:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
You're taking it a bit too personally there mate.


I suppose it's a pet peeve of mine. Vanilla Neverwinter Nights was the biggest offender. That game sucked. It also had a good enough community and toolset to be one of the best playing experiences in the genre.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 21:21 GMT
#11246
nah, I know how you feel. It's miscrediting and its a bit unfair, even if it doesn't have anything to do with you personally.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
December 01 2013 21:27 GMT
#11247
On December 02 2013 05:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I never understand people thanking a developer for the time and effort put in by other people. Shouldn't it be "thank you, modders, for fixing all of the hideous flaws this game has"?


Where did I say I thanked Bethesda for the mod SkyRe? I thanked Bethesda because of Skyrim, because of the fact that even after two years and many playthroughs, the game is still so much fun.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#11248
We all like Skyrim, forget the rest yo.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 13:27:56
December 06 2013 13:25 GMT
#11249
Damn this game.

Maybe it's the way I play but the game play gets broken (too easy) pretty quick and I end up quitting.

If I play stealth:
Just use a bow and 1 shot everything cross map. EZPZ

If I don't play stealth:
Well I'll just level smithing to get the next weapon/tempering grade into well I'm now 91 smithing and I have legedendary Daedric weapon.
Well I'm still not killing fast enough. Get another 100% DMG or so from enchanting.

It happens every damn time.

Also haggling level 1 is the most important perk in the game by far.

E: Also always picking stamina when I level up...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 06 2013 13:34 GMT
#11250
Well, install SkyRe and "Higher level enemies" and ASIS.

that will do the trick.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 06 2013 14:09 GMT
#11251
Why would you play this game without mods, lol.
Use Deadly Combat, Asis, Path of Shadows, Dragon Overhaul and cry until you realise you have to have a sidekick to absorb some damage or you can't do anything.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
December 06 2013 14:24 GMT
#11252
On December 06 2013 22:25 iTzSnypah wrote:
Damn this game.

Maybe it's the way I play but the game play gets broken (too easy) pretty quick and I end up quitting.

If I play stealth:
Just use a bow and 1 shot everything cross map. EZPZ

If I don't play stealth:
Well I'll just level smithing to get the next weapon/tempering grade into well I'm now 91 smithing and I have legedendary Daedric weapon.
Well I'm still not killing fast enough. Get another 100% DMG or so from enchanting.

It happens every damn time.

Also haggling level 1 is the most important perk in the game by far.

E: Also always picking stamina when I level up...

This is honestly why I stopped playing the game. It looks awesome, and in theory, the "do what you want, and get skill points, develop a class that fits your playstyle" sounds appealing, but due to how the game scales the difficulty, it's nonsensical to follow. Instead, you're pretty much forced to adapt the pre-destined optimal paths which you described, at elast if you want to play on proper difficulties.

There's of course also the problem of how armor works. If you go a stealth path or bow path, you won't level armor skills much, unless you specifically go out of your way to do so. This will come back and bite you seriously in the butt later on, especially in story-related quests where stealth is no longer an option.

I dunno. I've always loved the TES games, but if the designers intend on giving the players as much freedom as possible to develop their unique character builds, then this system doesn't really cut it once you've progressed a bit into it. That's my main gripe with the game, in any case - the suggestion of freedom being watered down to coercion of limited choice.

This game is still the most beautiful Norway simulator, however. Gonna reinstall and grab some mods during christmas. ;3
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 06 2013 15:27 GMT
#11253
@plated.rawr,
that is the point its all about the illusion of choice. Like you said if they truthfully wanted all paths to viable you would have a "non combat" option much like Dishonored does with stealthing/incapication. Instead the game has moments where literally the only option you have is fight, even though as a stealther you should have skills that blind/create distractions allowing you to escape.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 06 2013 15:40 GMT
#11254
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.

iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 06 2013 15:43 GMT
#11255
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.


I never said I wasn't using mods. It's pretty funny that everyone so far has assumed that.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 06 2013 15:47 GMT
#11256
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 16:09:07
December 06 2013 16:08 GMT
#11257
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.




the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 16:17:06
December 06 2013 16:16 GMT
#11258
On December 07 2013 01:08 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.

the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.


40k online players? LOL how many are playing the base game with no mods? The numbers mean nothing, it is shitty if the only reasonable way to fix the problems with the base game is to install a bunch of 3rd party mods. You still haven't addressed that point.

Btw, I hate playing stealth class, thanks for making another one of your assumptions that to me make you look like a rabid fan boi. I said it was an "illusion of choice" which once again you haven't addressed, I even gave you an example of a game that did it right.

So instead of saying "well install this mod it makes the game better" or "you want x so do y", why not address these 2 points:

If the game is so bad and unplayable at the base level that the community has to make its own fixes, how does that not make the game a giant pile of buggy crap?

If they wanted us to truly "play and go where you want" why do they pigeon hole us into fighting repeatedly, like "stealth" for instance, that works similar to dishonored where you can stealth and play literally the whole game without ever killing someone?


I even made them bold so you'd see. Kk thx bai.


User was temp banned for this post.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 06 2013 16:24 GMT
#11259
Skyrim is not unplayable at base level wtf. Mods naturally add to things, it's what they do and it's great there's such a variety to choose from, but base Skyrim is totally playable game. If you don't like it that much...well fucking tough. Go find another game or get the mods. I wonder if anyone out there ever played Skyrim on a console, because I heard consoles and mods don't mix too well >_>
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 06 2013 17:03 GMT
#11260
On December 07 2013 01:16 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 01:08 LaNague wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:47 FromShouri wrote:
On December 07 2013 00:40 LaNague wrote:
i dont know why you stop playing and complain instead of taking 30 mins to install mods that fix the problems you have with balance/gameplay.



Sorry I didn't realize YOU HAVE TO INSTALL MODS. It seriously speaks to how shitty a game is that you have to install umpteen mods to get it worthwhile. Yet everyone praises skyrim lololol.


you want something from the game that most people do not care for.
So yes, you personally have to use mods to modify the game that your ideas for the gameplay are realized.

I suggest something like stealthtools, maybe a stealth overhaul.

the game has 40k players online right now, 2 years after release. I doubt its shitty.


40k online players? LOL how many are playing the base game with no mods? The numbers mean nothing, it is shitty if the only reasonable way to fix the problems with the base game is to install a bunch of 3rd party mods. You still haven't addressed that point.

Btw, I hate playing stealth class, thanks for making another one of your assumptions that to me make you look like a rabid fan boi. I said it was an "illusion of choice" which once again you haven't addressed, I even gave you an example of a game that did it right.

So instead of saying "well install this mod it makes the game better" or "you want x so do y", why not address these 2 points:

If the game is so bad and unplayable at the base level that the community has to make its own fixes, how does that not make the game a giant pile of buggy crap?

If they wanted us to truly "play and go where you want" why do they pigeon hole us into fighting repeatedly, like "stealth" for instance, that works similar to dishonored where you can stealth and play literally the whole game without ever killing someone?


I even made them bold so you'd see. Kk thx bai.


Grow up. I played the game from start to finish with a good portion of the side/optional quest lines finished. The game was fine. I didn't need a trillion mods to make it enjoyable, nor do I doubt that mods make the experience both vastly different and/or improved. In fact I took a long break from completing the main story line, forgot about the main story line multiple times, then realized the game did in fact had a main story line and I should probably wrap it up.

I find it funny that you decide to use Dishonored as an example when that game's overall implementation of its mechanics is a damn joke. The illusion of choice is pretty every single game, not sure why you are harping on Skyrim.

It's like you actually bought into the hype...
Get it by your hands...
Prev 1 561 562 563 564 565 586 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group B
CranKy Ducklings159
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 184
Ketroc 43
Vindicta 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 757
Noble 27
Dota 2
monkeys_forever763
febbydoto26
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear9
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1800
m0e_tv747
taco 714
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor100
Other Games
summit1g9013
JimRising 561
C9.Mang0435
FrodaN280
ViBE93
WinterStarcraft28
PiLiPiLi6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 95
• HeavenSC 48
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21879
League of Legends
• Doublelift4439
• Stunt308
Other Games
• Scarra954
Upcoming Events
Escore
6h 44m
LiuLi Cup
7h 44m
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
13h 44m
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Serral vs Jumy
RSL Revival
23h 44m
RSL Revival
1d 4h
LiuLi Cup
1d 7h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: W8
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.