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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 26 2011 14:26 GMT
#7901
I can't fucking find faralda. Is she hiding or what ? xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 26 2011 14:26 GMT
#7902
On November 26 2011 21:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Now for a something interesting that I found, in an encampment named Silent Moons Camp northwest of Whiterun, which looks like a barrow on the minimap but it's really just a bandit camp in a ruin, there is something called "The Lunar Forge" on the top of it. In a book beside it, you can read about it, and it says that if you craft something at the forge during nighttime when there is a fullmoon out, your weapons will gain something called "Lunar Properties", which gives them a green glow, and a natural "Absorb Health - Enchantment".

How's that for an easter egg :o

(Sort of pointless though, since if you want enchanted weapons you can get way stronger, but I thought it was pretty interesting)


I read up about it actually. Apparently the forge doesn't do anything special (even though the book says it does), but you can disenchant the lunar weapons and it becomes like any other enchantment.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
November 26 2011 14:33 GMT
#7903
On November 26 2011 19:25 darkscream wrote:
So I fucked around a ton and just beat the game today. I went pure mage without any enchanting/minmaxing hacks on master difficulty, I never realized you could craft OP gear so I just ended up with the best quest stuff. Pretty much just stunlocked everyone to death with adept-level destruction spells; I got to level 30 or so. Without perfect stunlocking I got 1shot by a lot of mobs but that didn't matter, I didn't make a good build or character I just relied on the Impact perk, AI abuse and chain potions.

Game seems too short, not enough direction. Its fun to just run around and explore and blow monsters up but the main storyline was so damned cheap. Also it seems like the choices you make throughout the whole game don't really influence what happens in the main quest at all; It doesn't matter which way in the civil war you go or who you help and who you don't, the sidequests are all extremely disconnected from one another and also don't have too many different endings themselves.. The dungeon designs are all SUPER cool and the traps/puzzles/abstraction are decent at first but after a while the pressure plates and hidden levers get a bit stale.

Game is fun, feels epic, the graphics and sound are breathtaking and the world is huge. It just sucks because, for such a huge world, I really have to convince MYSELF to go out and explore it, I don't feel motivated by the game/story/rewards to actually go do it because I beat the main story and I can max my level/gold from doing Alchemy and cleaning out all the vendors gold as efficiently as possible with speech perks. I know there's a million sidequests I never finished in towns I've never been to; but they never came into play in the story so it doesn't make any sense for me to seek them out.

Kind of weird because I combed the recent Fallout games for all sorts of cool weapons and quests and Fallout doesn't take itself as seriously as TES does. I just feel like there's no gameplay left in Skyrim for me, I have to use my imagination to close too many gaps and even on the hardest difficulty I found it too easy. IDK. Back to starcraft i guess.


The thing about the elder scrolls games is that you can't approach them like regular games where the goal is to complete the "main quest". In oblivion for example the main quest sucked balls and was pretty much the worst thing about the game....there were side storyline which were longer and 100x better than the main quest. The same is true in Skyrim although I would say the main quest here is actually a lot better and more fun to play through than Oblivion's. In these games like 95% of the content is outside the main quest so if you go into it only with the view of completing that then the game will feel rather short.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 26 2011 14:48 GMT
#7904
Is there a way to make myself stop leveling? Would simply not going to the level up screen stop me? 'Cause I don't really need any more perks, and I'm just naturally getting myself more overpowered (I'm not even doing enchanting or smithing), but I still never completed anything but the Thieves Guild Quest (I'm exploring a lot). I'm on PC, so I do have console commands if they have one to stop leveling.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 26 2011 14:52 GMT
#7905
You could just type player.setlevel X every time you level up or get close to leveling up if you want to avoid getting a perk point.

Have a look at the Console Commands there may be something in there. However I have not seen any trainer/mods that would achieve what you specifically want (Although there are a few mods that would reduce the speed of leveling through skill gain.)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
November 26 2011 14:59 GMT
#7906
People that says Skyrim is short game are making themselfs looking very bad, main quest + guilds questlines take around 50-60h and its not even 50% of the content in Skyrim. In an era of 5h long sngleplayer games, how on earth can you call Skyrim short? Go buy NFS Run and play campaign, after 2,5h you''ll be done 3h if you dont skip cutscenes, go buy CoD MW3 or BF3 and enjoy 5h long campaign... Ok you want lastes big rpg's ?

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 35-40h to 100%
Witcher 2 - 30h to 100%
Mass Effect 2 - 60h to 100%
Dragon Age 2 - 45-50h to 100%
Fallout New Vegas + all DLC - around 110-115h to 100%

Skyrim - 119h on my steam Ive done main quest, guild quests, all achievements, all deadric artifacts, Thane in all citys, most of skills at 100, 90% of dungeons/caves cleared... you can say its 100% complete game but for sure I can find some quests that i missed...
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 15:02 GMT
#7907
On November 26 2011 23:59 Bulkers wrote:
People that says Skyrim is short game are making themselfs looking very bad, main quest + guilds questlines take around 50-60h and its not even 50% of the content in Skyrim. In an era of 5h long sngleplayer games, how on earth can you call Skyrim short? Go buy NFS Run and play campaign, after 2,5h you''ll be done 3h if you dont skip cutscenes, go buy CoD MW3 or BF3 and enjoy 5h long campaign... Ok you want lastes big rpg's ?

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 35-40h to 100%
Witcher 2 - 30h to 100%
Mass Effect 2 - 60h to 100%
Dragon Age 2 - 45-50h to 100%
Fallout New Vegas + all DLC - around 110-115h to 100%

Skyrim - 119h on my steam Ive done main quest, guild quests, all achievements, all deadric artifacts, Thane in all citys, most of skills at 100, 90% of dungeons/caves cleared... you can say its 100% complete game but for sure I can find some quests that i missed...

Not to mention that that is without DLC or mods so... + Skyrim is very much replayable as different characters imo.
Dee-Kej
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden191 Posts
November 26 2011 15:09 GMT
#7908
On November 26 2011 23:26 Erasme wrote:
I can't fucking find faralda. Is she hiding or what ? xD

Haha, I had trouble finding her earlier today xD She's often sitting in the tower on the left of the college entrance, on the first floor in her own room ^^
Going progame(make)r!!
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
November 26 2011 15:10 GMT
#7909
I don't like the smithing system or leveling system to much. Why? You create iron daggers untill you can make the best armor/weapons in the game lol. Shouldn't there be like iron daggers dont give you so much smithing skill 20+? Then you have to create more powerful and more expansive stuff the higher smithing skill you get. Just my 2 kronor
Toast and coffe
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
November 26 2011 15:10 GMT
#7910
On November 27 2011 00:09 Dee-Kej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 23:26 Erasme wrote:
I can't fucking find faralda. Is she hiding or what ? xD

Haha, I had trouble finding her earlier today xD She's often sitting in the tower on the left of the college entrance, on the first floor in her own room ^^


You mean tower on the right from the entrance
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 26 2011 15:13 GMT
#7911
The Daedra quests are so fun.
I'm doing the one who start with the dog of Farkreach at the moment, very fun.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 15:14:43
November 26 2011 15:14 GMT
#7912
On November 27 2011 00:10 Pippi wrote:
I don't like the smithing system or leveling system to much. Why? You create iron daggers untill you can make the best armor/weapons in the game lol. Shouldn't there be like iron daggers dont give you so much smithing skill 20+? Then you have to create more powerful and more expansive stuff the higher smithing skill you get. Just my 2 kronor

that would make sense...so if you don't want to make iron daggers to get to 100 smithing, then don't. no one is forcing you to power level the game.

On November 27 2011 00:13 Noocta wrote:
The Daedra quests are so fun.
I'm doing the one who start with the dog of Farkreach at the moment, very fun.


I'm actually going do that quest right now. (I started, but never finished) That dog's voice is so awesome lol
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 26 2011 15:21 GMT
#7913
On November 27 2011 00:13 Noocta wrote:
The Daedra quests are so fun.
I'm doing the one who start with the dog of Farkreach at the moment, very fun.

Some of the quests make me dislike myself for following it through hehe.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 15:23:22
November 26 2011 15:23 GMT
#7914
On November 26 2011 23:26 Erasme wrote:
I can't fucking find faralda. Is she hiding or what ? xD


wait till night time then go were the mages sleep. way easier that way
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 15:25:49
November 26 2011 15:25 GMT
#7915
Main story spoiler and question:

+ Show Spoiler +
Is the elder scroll used in the main story to view back to see how they "defeated" Alduin couple houndred years ago worth anything after you finished the main quest? I just sold it for 2k to the book keeper in the college, wondering if I should keep it instead.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 26 2011 15:27 GMT
#7916
On November 26 2011 23:59 Bulkers wrote:
People that says Skyrim is short game are making themselfs looking very bad, main quest + guilds questlines take around 50-60h and its not even 50% of the content in Skyrim. In an era of 5h long sngleplayer games, how on earth can you call Skyrim short? Go buy NFS Run and play campaign, after 2,5h you''ll be done 3h if you dont skip cutscenes, go buy CoD MW3 or BF3 and enjoy 5h long campaign... Ok you want lastes big rpg's ?

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 35-40h to 100%
Witcher 2 - 30h to 100%
Mass Effect 2 - 60h to 100%
Dragon Age 2 - 45-50h to 100%
Fallout New Vegas + all DLC - around 110-115h to 100%

Skyrim - 119h on my steam Ive done main quest, guild quests, all achievements, all deadric artifacts, Thane in all citys, most of skills at 100, 90% of dungeons/caves cleared... you can say its 100% complete game but for sure I can find some quests that i missed...


The problem is that if you simply play the main quest the game is very short.
Ofcourse you could go to get 100% or finish all questlines but they are just way to similar to be any fun.
All quests are basically, go here, kill X and retrieve Y. Almost no variation in them.
Even worse, combat in skyrim is EXTREMELY stale. You never fight agianst more then ~8 guys and all behave very similar. There are almost no enemies which move fast or behave in a interesting fashion, you simply spam one attack (whatever you have focussed on) and kill enemies that way.
It's just the most overrated game of the year by far, should never have gotten over a 7...
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 26 2011 15:29 GMT
#7917
As I said earlier- you can beat at least 2 of those games in a few hours or less. You're picking and choosing your argument instead of basing it objectively. Although I do not disagree that combat can be as simple as mash left mouse button; adding difficulty can come from the setting or yourself. It's a roleplaying game. Use your imagination.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 26 2011 15:31 GMT
#7918
Ya people should really, really not just race through the main quests in this game. (Or any TES) Its not even SUPPOSED to be the best/main part of the game and you are just killing the game for yourself. I highly recommend playing one stage of main quest, then go do a shitton of random stuff till you start getting bored of it. Go back do another stage. Repeat.

I cannot stress how much I recommend stretching out the main quest.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
November 26 2011 15:35 GMT
#7919
On November 27 2011 00:10 Pippi wrote:
I don't like the smithing system or leveling system to much. Why? You create iron daggers untill you can make the best armor/weapons in the game lol. Shouldn't there be like iron daggers dont give you so much smithing skill 20+? Then you have to create more powerful and more expansive stuff the higher smithing skill you get. Just my 2 kronor

I'm not sure since I went the Iron Dagger route myself, but in alchemy you will level faster if you create more expensive potions. For example I was making 1000g potions and each gave a nice amount of alchemy experience, but when I spammed 40 10g potions in a row I barely got any increase at all. There might be the same with smithing but I can't remember if it is.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
November 26 2011 15:36 GMT
#7920
On November 27 2011 00:27 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 23:59 Bulkers wrote:
People that says Skyrim is short game are making themselfs looking very bad, main quest + guilds questlines take around 50-60h and its not even 50% of the content in Skyrim. In an era of 5h long sngleplayer games, how on earth can you call Skyrim short? Go buy NFS Run and play campaign, after 2,5h you''ll be done 3h if you dont skip cutscenes, go buy CoD MW3 or BF3 and enjoy 5h long campaign... Ok you want lastes big rpg's ?

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 35-40h to 100%
Witcher 2 - 30h to 100%
Mass Effect 2 - 60h to 100%
Dragon Age 2 - 45-50h to 100%
Fallout New Vegas + all DLC - around 110-115h to 100%

Skyrim - 119h on my steam Ive done main quest, guild quests, all achievements, all deadric artifacts, Thane in all citys, most of skills at 100, 90% of dungeons/caves cleared... you can say its 100% complete game but for sure I can find some quests that i missed...


The problem is that if you simply play the main quest the game is very short.
Ofcourse you could go to get 100% or finish all questlines but they are just way to similar to be any fun.
All quests are basically, go here, kill X and retrieve Y. Almost no variation in them.
Even worse, combat in skyrim is EXTREMELY stale. You never fight agianst more then ~8 guys and all behave very similar. There are almost no enemies which move fast or behave in a interesting fashion, you simply spam one attack (whatever you have focussed on) and kill enemies that way.
It's just the most overrated game of the year by far, should never have gotten over a 7...


So you think playing just through the main quest which is less than 10% of the content and calling the game short is a good argument? And saying the side quests are boring is opinion not fact...I found most of the side quests to be quite enjoyable especially the daedric ones and the guild storylines.
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