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On November 21 2011 16:50 FecalFrown wrote:
I'm playing the Xbox 360 version, and in addition to the obvious UI problems related to console gaming, I have another gripe about this otherwise great game. Why are there so many exploits? The simplest example is using soul trap on dead bodies. It levels your skill.
I started a character and went from level 1 to 14 and maxed conjuration in about 45 minutes just using soul trap on a dead rat. Doesn't this game go through some kind of QA process? That's just one of many examples of shit that should have been cleaned up long before release.
Yes but at the same time you can avoid that problem by choosing not to exploit the game and play it "normal" instead. After you found out you could do that you could just have chosen to stop and play the game normally like it appears you want to but you didn't.
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TES has always had grinding exploits, for instance, conjure up a zombie, whack it with your sword, level up your sword skill, and your conjuration at same time, or run into a corner with a rubberband, constantly jump all the way across the world like a rabbit.. .. however, if you choose to not do it, then there is no problem.
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Exploits aren't the same as in game mechanics. Using your conjuration levels it, SURPRISE. When you level your skills you level up SURPRISE. Seriously how is some of the stupid things said even taken seriously.
Guys when I play halo and shoot my weapon eventually I run out of ammo and then people kill me. Someone should remove that.
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Artificial restrictions can keep the game challenging, but they really shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Having these restrictions completely undermines the concept of trying your best by forcing yourself to choose the less efficient solution.
We can only wait for a patch, though Bethesda has a terrible track record of patching exploits/unbalances. The mod community will most likely save the day.
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On November 21 2011 17:25 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 16:50 FecalFrown wrote:
I'm playing the Xbox 360 version, and in addition to the obvious UI problems related to console gaming, I have another gripe about this otherwise great game. Why are there so many exploits? The simplest example is using soul trap on dead bodies. It levels your skill.
I started a character and went from level 1 to 14 and maxed conjuration in about 45 minutes just using soul trap on a dead rat. Doesn't this game go through some kind of QA process? That's just one of many examples of shit that should have been cleaned up long before release. Yes but at the same time you can avoid that problem by choosing not to exploit the game and play it "normal" instead. After you found out you could do that you could just have chosen to stop and play the game normally like it appears you want to but you didn't.
Indeed.
This isn't a competitive game. You don't need to play it optimally using every advantage you can get, you need to play it in a way that makes you feel good. 
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Maybe I'm missing something but my first two chars didnt do the companion stuff, so my 2h just became a werewolf, for me a first time. What is the advantage? Disadvantage: You can't get rested bonusses from beds. Advantage: uh... Youre a bit stronger and faster for a little while but you don't level anything nor can you loot, it just boosts you through a dungeon orso? Thats not why I play TES>.<
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On November 21 2011 18:07 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but my first two chars didnt do the companion stuff, so my 2h just became a werewolf, for me a first time. What is the advantage? Disadvantage: You can't get rested bonusses from beds. Advantage: uh... Youre a bit stronger and faster for a little while but you don't level anything nor can you loot, it just boosts you through a dungeon orso? Thats not why I play TES>.<
When you shout (z) everything runs away in fear. You can shout pretty much endlessly. It's very exploitable.
I personally didn't like being a werewolf (and being force into the 3rd person view, I play from 1st person) so I didn't use the form and later on cured myself.
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On November 21 2011 16:27 Fishball wrote:
Does anyone one know why talking with Eorlund Gray-Mane doesn't give me an option to learn Blacksmith skills from him? Tried with different characters but didn't work. Are there any requirements (quests) that I need to do in order for him to teach me?
Tried searching around for answers but no go. I'm hoping someone can help me out here.
You need to start the companions questline
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How can i get back into blackreach cavern ?? I didnt finish the quest with crimson ninroot but cant remember how to get back down there ;] i also unlocked some of the entrances but cant find them now 
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Aside from the folks that obviously love the game ^^, etc, does anybody else feel like it gets old fast? I've only played as an assassin, 100 sneak with mehrunes razor and blade of woe, ancient shroud set, and now I feel like I have nothing else to do besides grind for levels and skills or finish the storyline, which I hear is not that long. Of course there's a ton more I can do on the side but what for? To browse around or get more items? I was expecting a bit more, it's fun for a while but I don't feel as rewarded playing this game =[. Wish there was a multiplayer for this.
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On November 21 2011 18:21 Butcherski wrote:How can i get back into blackreach cavern ?? I didnt finish the quest with crimson ninroot but cant remember how to get back down there ;] i also unlocked some of the entrances but cant find them now
If you unlocked some of the entrances they should be in your map marked with something like "Great Lift at Raldbthar". Otherwise you'll need to go through Alftand again.
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On November 21 2011 18:07 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but my first two chars didnt do the companion stuff, so my 2h just became a werewolf, for me a first time. What is the advantage? Disadvantage: You can't get rested bonusses from beds. Advantage: uh... Youre a bit stronger and faster for a little while but you don't level anything nor can you loot, it just boosts you through a dungeon orso? Thats not why I play TES>.<
Yeah only thing I use werewolf form for is traveling to really faraway locations really fast when I don't feel like discovering 15 dungeons along the way. I don't like horses for some reason.
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On November 21 2011 18:32 solidbebe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 18:07 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but my first two chars didnt do the companion stuff, so my 2h just became a werewolf, for me a first time. What is the advantage? Disadvantage: You can't get rested bonusses from beds. Advantage: uh... Youre a bit stronger and faster for a little while but you don't level anything nor can you loot, it just boosts you through a dungeon orso? Thats not why I play TES>.< Yeah only thing I use werewolf form for is traveling to really faraway locations really fast when I don't feel like discovering 15 dungeons along the way. I don't like horses for some reason.
Yeah horses are wierd as hell dunno why. I personally just use the console commands for fast travelling.
"player.modav speedmult 200" (or 400)
or "coc X" where X is the location =/
btw guys if you're really bored try this in the consoles
"tcl"
"player.modav speedmult 200"
and go fight a dragon in the air.
Feels soooooooo much like WW2 fight plane simulators xD
Beware that the game might unexpectedly crash from the sheer amounts of awesome.
to undo the speedmult just type "player.modav speedmult -X" where X is the number you added before.
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On November 21 2011 17:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Exploits aren't the same as in game mechanics. Using your conjuration levels it, SURPRISE. When you level your skills you level up SURPRISE. Seriously how is some of the stupid things said even taken seriously.
Guys when I play halo and shoot my weapon eventually I run out of ammo and then people kill me. Someone should remove that.
Since you seem to be an asshole and a moron, I'll help you out. Here is an analogy that isn't sarcastic, and actually makes sense:
In Call of Duty, you get perks and weapons from getting points gained from head shots, kills etc. Imagine you kill an Arab bastard and get 50 points. Then you stand over his lifeless body, pumping round after round into his head with your .44 Magnum and get 100 points per head shot. Do this for about 20 minutes and you now have unlocked all the weapons. Hm, that sounds like exactly what I was talking about, and it takes away from the sense of accomplishment which makes a reward system fun in the first place.
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I love this game. I've been playing it like crazy since it installed... I just wish I could stick with a character.
My latest character, the one I've played the most, is level 38. I haven't done much with the main story, mainly because I really wanted to focus more on side quests and take my time. I had another character I raced to the last part and it made the character feel weak and unfinished. So this time I went with 1H/Shield, Heavy Armor, Smithing and Enchanting.
Smithing and Enchanting kind of ruined this character for me. Both are super easy to level and entirely too strong. I even forced myself to only level Smithing with ore I found and I still ended up with full Daedric armor around level 30. I got Enchanting to about level 70 and with +1H Damage enchanted on my Ring/Amulet, Life Drain/Steal/Leech (whatever its called) on my Sword and armor/resists elsewhere... I don't even need to potion and things die fast. Oddly, this was the goal but I got there a lot faster/sooner than I expected, I don't know if I can finish the story with this character (which sucks because that was obviously the goal) because its too boring... I'm either going to start over another character (again) and ban Enchanting/Smithing for myself or turn the difficulty up and keep trying to find the challenge.
It just seems Skyrim's scaling is off, I either feel SUPER weak or I'm way too strong and everything feels like a joke.
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On November 21 2011 18:41 Xeteh wrote:
I love this game. I've been playing it like crazy since it installed... I just wish I could stick with a character.
My latest character, the one I've played the most, is level 38. I haven't done much with the main story, mainly because I really wanted to focus more on side quests and take my time. I had another character I raced to the last part and it made the character feel weak and unfinished. So this time I went with 1H/Shield, Heavy Armor, Smithing and Enchanting.
Smithing and Enchanting kind of ruined this character for me. Both are super easy to level and entirely too strong. I even forced myself to only level Smithing with ore I found and I still ended up with full Daedric armor around level 30. I got Enchanting to about level 70 and with +1H Damage enchanted on my Ring/Amulet, Life Drain/Steal/Leech (whatever its called) on my Sword and armor/resists elsewhere... I don't even need to potion and things die fast. Oddly, this was the goal but I got there a lot faster/sooner than I expected, I don't know if I can finish the story with this character (which sucks because that was obviously the goal) because its too boring... I'm either going to start over another character (again) and ban Enchanting/Smithing for myself or turn the difficulty up and keep trying to find the challenge.
It just seems Skyrim's scaling is off, I either feel SUPER weak or I'm way too strong and everything feels like a joke.
What are you playing on? Adept? Every game released in these days are ez-mode on adept. Be a man and play on master.
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On November 21 2011 18:07 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something but my first two chars didnt do the companion stuff, so my 2h just became a werewolf, for me a first time. What is the advantage? Disadvantage: You can't get rested bonusses from beds. Advantage: uh... Youre a bit stronger and faster for a little while but you don't level anything nor can you loot, it just boosts you through a dungeon orso? Thats not why I play TES>.<
You get like 100% poison resistance. I just RPed and decided that I don't want to be the deadra lords puppy.
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On November 21 2011 18:46 ZaaaaaM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 18:41 Xeteh wrote:
I love this game. I've been playing it like crazy since it installed... I just wish I could stick with a character.
My latest character, the one I've played the most, is level 38. I haven't done much with the main story, mainly because I really wanted to focus more on side quests and take my time. I had another character I raced to the last part and it made the character feel weak and unfinished. So this time I went with 1H/Shield, Heavy Armor, Smithing and Enchanting.
Smithing and Enchanting kind of ruined this character for me. Both are super easy to level and entirely too strong. I even forced myself to only level Smithing with ore I found and I still ended up with full Daedric armor around level 30. I got Enchanting to about level 70 and with +1H Damage enchanted on my Ring/Amulet, Life Drain/Steal/Leech (whatever its called) on my Sword and armor/resists elsewhere... I don't even need to potion and things die fast. Oddly, this was the goal but I got there a lot faster/sooner than I expected, I don't know if I can finish the story with this character (which sucks because that was obviously the goal) because its too boring... I'm either going to start over another character (again) and ban Enchanting/Smithing for myself or turn the difficulty up and keep trying to find the challenge.
It just seems Skyrim's scaling is off, I either feel SUPER weak or I'm way too strong and everything feels like a joke. What are you playing on? Adept? Every game released in these days are ez-mode on adept. Be a man and play on master.
The game is bloody easy on any difficulty, I beat it with a mage with 100% into magicka, got very boring spamming fireball, Then I made a character that just beat shit with its fists, its still quite easy and even more boring because you just sit there and mash right click.
I'm honestly not sure how you could have trouble with this game on any difficulty....I have used a total of 0 potions in my playthroughs and no food either. And I wasn't using the crafting synergy either.
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This game is fantastic. I just hit the 100 hour playmark. :o
In other news, I plan on attempting to record a speedrun. I was going to just record my first playthrough but it ended up going a bit...long. :p so I'll just record a speedrun! I'm aiming for three hours.
I'll be streaming it noon (pacific standard time) monday at http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc
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