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HelloGoodbye
Profile Joined November 2011
17 Posts
November 18 2011 22:09 GMT
#6821
On November 19 2011 06:28 gosuMalicE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 06:27 ZeromuS wrote:
Ive just hit a dungeon im having a really hard time with

+ Show Spoiler +
Nchuand-zel. What the hell am I supposed to do to kill those dwemer machines they move so fast and hit pretty decently my lvl 30 sneak archer Can't do anything since I cant get away and get the sneak damage bonuses. the stupid machines just pop out of nowhere and then I get wrecked :O


Slow time shout.


that's the most useless shout in the game imo. if it slows time for EVERYONE including you, what good is it? answer is none.


On November 19 2011 06:53 Dogfinder wrote:
dam, i hate making choices!
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you really have to kill Paarthurnax? He's such a nice dragon


thanks for the spoiler...... maybe hint at what you're spoiling OUTSIDE the spoiler? anyway, as a warning to everyone else: MAJOR END GAME SPOILER DO NOT CLICK.


User was warned for this post
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 22:31:28
November 18 2011 22:12 GMT
#6822
On November 19 2011 06:53 Dogfinder wrote:
dam, i hate making choices!
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you really have to kill Paarthurnax? He's such a nice dragon

There is currently a bug where
+ Show Spoiler +
if you don't kill Paarthurnax and finish the entire main quest, Paarthurnax will then be permanently marked as an essential character and will become unkillable, thus making that optional quest impossible to complete until the bug is patched.

And I kinda like these hard choices. Everything and everyone is in the grey. There is Alduin as the absolute evil, though it is suggested that he is actually the inevitability of fate that humanity, you, is trying to combat. For everyone else, there is no real right or wrong. It's hard to choose between the Imperials and Stormcloaks because both have moral strengths and weaknesses. The Blades are supposedly the force of good in the story, but their own philosophy blinds them to a fault even against allies. I LOVE how indecisive this game makes you, as you really question the questionable morality of everyone in the game.

I'm really tired and rambling on 2 hours of sleep lol


edit: post 3999 O_o
Gonna lay low for a while until I can finish up my planned post 4k
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#6823
On November 19 2011 07:09 HelloGoodbye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 06:28 gosuMalicE wrote:
On November 19 2011 06:27 ZeromuS wrote:
Ive just hit a dungeon im having a really hard time with

+ Show Spoiler +
Nchuand-zel. What the hell am I supposed to do to kill those dwemer machines they move so fast and hit pretty decently my lvl 30 sneak archer Can't do anything since I cant get away and get the sneak damage bonuses. the stupid machines just pop out of nowhere and then I get wrecked :O


Slow time shout.


that's the most useless shout in the game imo. if it slows time for EVERYONE including you, what good is it? answer is none.



? That would be true if this was a multiplayer game...but it's not. The AI controlling your enemies won't make smarter moves because time is slow. You, however, can dodge missiles, "react quicker," and in general make it harder to get gibbed by a stray arrow/spell.

Not as useful as some shouts, but not useless.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
November 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#6824
Started my archer/thief yesterday and I'm already 11 hours in and I'm already level 25. Are daggers worth it? 35x backstab dmg sounds good but is it really useful? I'd have to get in melee range and against more than 1 enemy the backstab dmg is out of the window or do I miss something I'm not thinking of right now?

Just started Thiefs Guild quests they're so awesome and way more fun than the Winterhold College stuff and it's ridiculous how fast you level if you buy training and pickpocket your money back.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 18 2011 22:25 GMT
#6825
On November 19 2011 06:25 gosuMalicE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 05:53 crms wrote:
On November 19 2011 05:50 DystopiaX wrote:
Gonna start a destruction/reanimate corpse mage today, wanna try out some magic since my current character can only heal himself. Still gonna finish my first character though.



Be careful and make sure to manually save your original character. I used to only quick save (f5) and I started a new character for fun.. I lost my lv29 d/w nord with full daedric 100 smith/enchanting etc because Skyrim save management is shit and it saved over my guy.

Thank god I have PC version and I had an old lv10 save.. I 'cheated' and gave myself full bags of mats to relevel blacksmithing/enchanting and power leveled back up to lv25 doing that and recrafted my gearset. I still have to redo about 3-4 hours of quests though a lot of the little knick knacks and dragonshouts I'm missing now.

Just Save/Load using console and you get the best of both worlds plus the ability to name your saves.

for example open console with ~ and type "save savename" (replace savename with what you want to name your save) and then you can use the "load savename" command or load using normal menu. For quicksaves i use save 1, save 2, etc. and for hardsaves I use the character name as the savename.



This is the method I use now. I wish I would have figured that out before I lost my guy lol, but console saved the day. I can redo a few quests ezpz.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
November 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#6826
On November 19 2011 07:19 unsaintly wrote:
Started my archer/thief yesterday and I'm already 11 hours in and I'm already level 25. Are daggers worth it? 35x backstab dmg sounds good but is it really useful? I'd have to get in melee range and against more than 1 enemy the backstab dmg is out of the window or do I miss something I'm not thinking of right now?

Just started Thiefs Guild quests they're so awesome and way more fun than the Winterhold College stuff and it's ridiculous how fast you level if you buy training and pickpocket your money back.


once you have a decent level in sneaking and some proper equipment (thieves guild or dark brotherhood armor) stealthing and backstabbing becomes really cool imho.. in the beginning i mostly used a bow because getting into meele range wasn't possible at all... but it definately is viable
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 22:33:45
November 18 2011 22:33 GMT
#6827
On November 19 2011 07:19 unsaintly wrote:
Started my archer/thief yesterday and I'm already 11 hours in and I'm already level 25. Are daggers worth it? 35x backstab dmg sounds good but is it really useful? I'd have to get in melee range and against more than 1 enemy the backstab dmg is out of the window or do I miss something I'm not thinking of right now?

Just started Thiefs Guild quests they're so awesome and way more fun than the Winterhold College stuff and it's ridiculous how fast you level if you buy training and pickpocket your money back.


well onehitting giants and every mob in the game except dragons is kinda worth it
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
November 18 2011 22:36 GMT
#6828
On November 19 2011 07:09 HelloGoodbye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 06:28 gosuMalicE wrote:
On November 19 2011 06:27 ZeromuS wrote:
Ive just hit a dungeon im having a really hard time with

+ Show Spoiler +
Nchuand-zel. What the hell am I supposed to do to kill those dwemer machines they move so fast and hit pretty decently my lvl 30 sneak archer Can't do anything since I cant get away and get the sneak damage bonuses. the stupid machines just pop out of nowhere and then I get wrecked :O


Slow time shout.


that's the most useless shout in the game imo. if it slows time for EVERYONE including you, what good is it? answer is none.


Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 06:53 Dogfinder wrote:
dam, i hate making choices!
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you really have to kill Paarthurnax? He's such a nice dragon


thanks for the spoiler...... maybe hint at what you're spoiling OUTSIDE the spoiler? anyway, as a warning to everyone else: MAJOR END GAME SPOILER DO NOT CLICK.


He puts it in a spoiler so you don't get spoiled. It's not his fault you clicked the spoiler. Get over it, it's your own fault if you open a spoiler.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 18 2011 22:39 GMT
#6829
On November 19 2011 06:53 Dogfinder wrote:
dam, i hate making choices!
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you really have to kill Paarthurnax? He's such a nice dragon


+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't. Ending is just slightly different.

ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 18 2011 22:42 GMT
#6830
Can anyone with an advanced thief/assassin character tell me if illusion is worth investing in? Some illusion spells like muffle/invisibility look like they could prove very useful. However, you get can the equivalent effects from potions, so I guess you can just rely on alchemy? What do you think?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
November 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#6831
I was thinking about investing into Illusion aswell, especially since the Nightingale headpiece gives a 15% mana bonus on those spells and otherwise it'd be totally worthless to me.

Since I have neither Alchemy nor Illusion I think I'll just start going for Illusion next, especially Invisibility should prove to be a very useful spell I think.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 18 2011 22:54 GMT
#6832
On November 19 2011 07:42 Telcontar wrote:
Can anyone with an advanced thief/assassin character tell me if illusion is worth investing in? Some illusion spells like muffle/invisibility look like they could prove very useful. However, you get can the equivalent effects from potions, so I guess you can just rely on alchemy? What do you think?


I like Illusion, mostly for the spells you mentioned, but also for Fury. I don't usually go around with a companion (seems weird to be creeping around with a plate-wearing warrior, and they tend to get tangled up with me more often than not), so hitting a mage with Fury when he's in a group really helps take down the harder rooms. You can plunk away at them from the shadows while they take him down, and in general cause a bunch of ruckus.

That's just how I like playing though.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 18 2011 22:59 GMT
#6833
On November 19 2011 07:54 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 07:42 Telcontar wrote:
Can anyone with an advanced thief/assassin character tell me if illusion is worth investing in? Some illusion spells like muffle/invisibility look like they could prove very useful. However, you get can the equivalent effects from potions, so I guess you can just rely on alchemy? What do you think?


I like Illusion, mostly for the spells you mentioned, but also for Fury. I don't usually go around with a companion (seems weird to be creeping around with a plate-wearing warrior, and they tend to get tangled up with me more often than not), so hitting a mage with Fury when he's in a group really helps take down the harder rooms. You can plunk away at them from the shadows while they take him down, and in general cause a bunch of ruckus.

That's just how I like playing though.

That actually sounds good. I've never really had the inclination to use the calm/fury/fear spells with my mage character. I think I'll give it a try with my sneaky snake khajiit.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
November 18 2011 23:04 GMT
#6834
Oh yeah don't know if this was brought up but there's a seemingly INTENTIONAL glitch in the Thieve's endquest
+ Show Spoiler +
When you go to return the skeleton key


A door that is open when you first go sometimes randomly closes and there's no way to reopen it, but on the sides of the stone door there's a HUGE gap that allows you to just hop/whirlwind walk behind the door and move onwards haha.
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CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
November 18 2011 23:04 GMT
#6835
I'm playing as battlemage at master level. Just started 1st mage quest and i'm about level 5 i think. Spriggans are hell and so are bears. I try to avoid them as much as i can. But on this first mission it is hell the draugr are unkillable with my dual destruction fire, any hint?
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
November 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#6836
On November 19 2011 08:04 CaM27 wrote:
I'm playing as battlemage at master level. Just started 1st mage quest and i'm about level 5 i think. Spriggans are hell and so are bears. I try to avoid them as much as i can. But on this first mission it is hell the draugr are unkillable with my dual destruction fire, any hint?


Early on, try to weaken ennemies with spells before switching to a weapon and shield in the beginning. As you grow in magical power and do more damage per spell, you wont need to anymore. You dont need to do it but make it that much easier. Also, if you have cold spells, they lowere the movement speed of the target which helps keeping a distance.
Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#6837
On November 19 2011 07:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 06:53 Dogfinder wrote:
dam, i hate making choices!
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you really have to kill Paarthurnax? He's such a nice dragon

There is currently a bug where
+ Show Spoiler +
if you don't kill Paarthurnax and finish the entire main quest, Paarthurnax will then be permanently marked as an essential character and will become unkillable, thus making that optional quest impossible to complete until the bug is patched.

And I kinda like these hard choices. Everything and everyone is in the grey. There is Alduin as the absolute evil, though it is suggested that he is actually the inevitability of fate that humanity, you, is trying to combat. For everyone else, there is no real right or wrong. It's hard to choose between the Imperials and Stormcloaks because both have moral strengths and weaknesses. The Blades are supposedly the force of good in the story, but their own philosophy blinds them to a fault even against allies. I LOVE how indecisive this game makes you, as you really question the questionable morality of everyone in the game.

I'm really tired and rambling on 2 hours of sleep lol


edit: post 3999 O_o
Gonna lay low for a while until I can finish up my planned post 4k

If you like having to make grey choices, then make sure you play The Witcher [2].
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
November 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#6838
On November 19 2011 08:04 CaM27 wrote:
I'm playing as battlemage at master level. Just started 1st mage quest and i'm about level 5 i think. Spriggans are hell and so are bears. I try to avoid them as much as i can. But on this first mission it is hell the draugr are unkillable with my dual destruction fire, any hint?

Level up destruction enough to unlock the perk that staggers enemies on dual cast, then the fireballs should work.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 23:18:50
November 18 2011 23:18 GMT
#6839
I love this game
[image loading]

Where is this dragon idra?!!!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 18 2011 23:19 GMT
#6840
yes
basically there are 2 main ways of how to play detruction imo, those are conjuration/destruction where u summon shit and let them tank while standing real far and casting bolt shit
or going alteration destruction where u get +200 armor and stagger melee opponents and 1hward/1h lighting against casters (with restoration, but thats always useful)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
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