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MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
November 11 2011 11:34 GMT
#3301
And now Steam is trying to download the game (which I have on DVD), and crashed in the process.... wow.

I love Valve and its games, but there is no word to describe how much I despise Steam. This is something I'll pay more attention to in the future, when deciding whether I should buy a game or not.
Moff
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom166 Posts
November 11 2011 11:35 GMT
#3302
On November 11 2011 20:24 MilesTeg wrote:
Just bought the game as I was going out of work. I was really excited, even cancelled some other things I could've done on this Friday evening, this was going to be so awesome!


.....I can't install it. Steam won't let me. Steam won't let me install the single player game that I bought at a local game store. I don't even know what to say.

Edit: am I right to assume that all those who are playing it pirated it? Or did it come out earlier in other parts of the world?


It was released at midnight on Steam for UK and NL that I know of.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
November 11 2011 11:38 GMT
#3303
Yikes. Thought I was being uber sneaky with my stealing but apparently an innkeeper put out a hit on me cause 3 hired thugs chased me down. Saved before fighting them & it took a few tries cause I couldn't fight all 3 straight up so I hopped on top of a building and fired arrows until they died, haha.

I'm having a blast!
Taengoo ♥
Baobab
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
November 11 2011 11:43 GMT
#3304
Wtf? Steam is telling me the game will be released on the 12th, in 4 hours? WTF STEAM

goodbye cruel world
/wrists
한국어 배우고 있어요 ... 너무 어려우니까 도와주세요 ㅋㅋㅋ
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 11 2011 12:00 GMT
#3305
Just got back from my 167.8 mile drive to get Skyrim. Aww yeah. Starting now.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:09:19
November 11 2011 12:02 GMT
#3306
Hello everyone I have some reading for people having a hard time believing this is a 2011 game.

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/m7zja/tweaks_to_make_skyrim_that_much_better/

This fixes the laggy mouse issue Bethesda implemented because they forgot that PC users like to control there game accurately.

Also fixes the mouse acceleration problem that PC games have been coming stock with for no apparent reason except to show us they have no idea how terrible it is.

Also fixes the crash to desktop and NPC fuzzy sound issues some users were having, because Bethesda QA group must have come from the same group that did Rage.

Also from that Reddit thread:

At the end of your Documents/My Games/Skyrim/Skyrim.ini file, add:
[Controls]
fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0200
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200
You may have to tweak the numbers until you discover what works for you.


This sort of fixes the problem that Skyrim uses different values for X and Y mouse pitch. How this got past quality I will never understand.

Also this link has some graphical enhancements you can add if your system smashes Skyrim.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1255692-skyrim-pc-ini-and-console-tweaks/

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.ini Variables
The SkyrimPrefs.ini is located in Documents\My Games\Skyrim. Make a backup as usual.

Interesting variables are as follows, in order of appearance in the .ini and showing their default settings.
bDoDepthOfField=1
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
bShowCompass=1
bMouseAcceleration=1
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

FOV adjustment
Have found no way to change FOV outside the game so far (only the fov n console command like Oblivion). Changing the FOV via the in-game console carries over between reloads and sessions. Here are some comparison screenshots. They were taken at 1920x1080, and there wasn't much fisheye at 100 degrees. I settled at 95 degrees.
Default FOV (I'm guessing around 60-70)
80 degrees
90 degrees
100 degrees.


Comparison of bTreesReceiveShadows and bDrawLandShadows values
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bTreesReceiveShadows=1

Obviously having TreesReceiveShadows on gives trees tons more depth.

bDrawLandShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=1

The rock casts subtle shadows on itself, basically. Note that the larger shadows are unaffected; this is a subtle effect, but an important one, I think.

For me there was no performance hit having them on, but your mileage may vary. Game was running at 1920x1080 on default High settings, except for 2x AA and draw distances set to 7 for all (I think the object and actor draw distances are lower by default). Specs are:
i5 2500K 3.3Ghz, OC to 4.5Ghz
GTX 570 1280MB OC
GTX 460 SE 1000MB for PhysX
DDR3-1600Mhz RAM, 8GB
Win 7 HP 64-bit


Here are some more suggestions from that reddit thread.

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Change both iWaterReflectHeight=512 and iWaterReflectWidth=512 to 1024 (for a higher water reflection resolution) and add the following to your SkyrimPrefs.ini:
bUseWaterReflectionBlur=1
bReflectExplosions=1
iWaterBlurAmount=4
bAutoWaterSilhouetteReflections=0
bForceHighDetailReflections=1

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/images/11-3-1320979782.jpg

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/images/11-4-1320979783.jpg


_________________________________________________________________________________
Here is the config file I have been using to run Skyrim. System is a 5830 with an i5 2500k.

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[Display]
iMultiSample=1
iWaterMultisamples=4
bTransparencyMultisampling=1
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10
iMaxAnisotropy=8
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iTexMipMapMinimum=4
fDecalLOD1=500.0000
fDecalLOD2=1000.0000
iActorShadowCountInt=4
iActorShadowCountExt=2
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=460.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000
bDrawShadows=1
iShadowFilter=2
iShadowMapResolution=512
fShadowBiasScale=1.0000
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=5
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
bFXAAEnabled=0
fGamma=1.0000
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1050
iSize W=1680
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=0
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3

[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=26000.0000
fBlockLoadDistanceLow=50000.0000
fBlockLoadDistance=125000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.0000
fHighBlockLoadDistanceLow=20000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=100000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=20480.0000
bShowLODInEditor=0

[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000

[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=1

[Water]
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterReflectionBlur=1
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
iWaterReflectWidth=512
iWaterReflectHeight=512
bReflectExplosions=1
iWaterBlurAmount=2
bAutoWaterSilhouetteReflections=1
bForceHighDetailReflections=0

[BlurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[MAIN]
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
bShowCompass=1
[Controls]
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.9000
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=0.5000
uID3=466532
fVal2=0.8000
uID2=554685
fVal1=0.8000
uID1=1007612
fVal0=1.0000
uID0=94881
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[General]
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=100


It is by no means perfect but it is better than defaults for me. Excellent graphics are in this game but Skyrim makes you fucking work for them thats for sure. There are other UI issues fixable through commands, like the cramped FOV. To adjust the FOV use "fov n" where n is the field of view number you wish to use. Skyrim fish eyes less than other games with this tweak so it should be good.
_______________________________________________________________________

EDIT: If my above config makes your game run in windowed mode it is because of these two lines.

iSize H=1050
iSize W=1680

Change these to fit the resolution of your monitor. Also use this.

bFull Screen=1
twitch.tv/medrea
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
November 11 2011 12:03 GMT
#3307
Played couple hours without any crashes or gamebreaking bugs. After first impressions this seems better than Oblivion at least. I tried both gamepad and mouse/keyboard and I actually prefer m/k but maybe I'm alone with that, it's pretty dumb design that you can't hotkey weapon/spell sets though. Well the favourite system somewhat gets the job done.

Seems to run pretty well on my low end PC, defaulted to medium even with 1920x1080. However I can't get back to game if I alt tab and I can't bring up the steam shift+tab window in game for some reason, never had that issue with any other steam game.
Vibes
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany144 Posts
November 11 2011 12:04 GMT
#3308
wow, thank you so much, Medrea! Helped me alot!
Just another Jaedong fanboy <3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:06:01
November 11 2011 12:05 GMT
#3309
On November 11 2011 21:04 Vibes wrote:
wow, thank you so much, Medrea! Helped me alot!


No problem, be careful with things like shadow resolution please. While a shadow map of 64mb doesnt sound like a big deal, realize it multiplies for every shadow there is on the screen.

Also props to reddit community.
twitch.tv/medrea
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:09:49
November 11 2011 12:09 GMT
#3310
On November 11 2011 20:31 cannavaro wrote:
Short question: I was all for getting skyrim, but now after I've read the IGN review and read many comments on different sites, the inventory system (only sortable by name, not weight, price) seems terrible and the controls on the pc version seem terrible too. Are they terrible enough to make it not fun?

Hmm, menus seem to be made with Consoles in mind, unlike other Elder Scrolls games and CRPG's alike.

The one thing that bugged me was trying to figure out how to hotkey items. It was driving me nuts for awhile.

It seems obvious when you finally do it, but I swear there are no hints what so ever (or maybe i just skipped them lol)

For anyone who doesn't know how to do it still, just highlight whatever you want to hotkey in your favorites menu and hit a number from 1-9
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
November 11 2011 12:13 GMT
#3311
Well, it's official. This is GOTY for me.

5 hours in and I'm having the time of my damn life, and I haven't even left Rivenwood.
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
November 11 2011 12:18 GMT
#3312
Just picked it up, can't wait :D
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
cannavaro
Profile Joined November 2010
Italy86 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:23:23
November 11 2011 12:19 GMT
#3313
Seeing as it's a steam game, does it have achievements? Like fallout 3 had for windows live.

edit: only asking about pc version, of course.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
November 11 2011 12:24 GMT
#3314
Annnnd, 3h more of download to switch the game to English cause I don't wanna play in french :'(
NoiR
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
November 11 2011 12:32 GMT
#3315
My game has crashed like 5 times in 6 hours
#1 Kwanro Fan
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:40:25
November 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#3316
Seriously, 80% of all problems people come in here to post i have found the answers to. In this thread!

Take some time to read the last ~5 pages quickly and you'll find your answers. goddamn -_-

Im still waiting for download and already well prepared for quite a few problems with their fixes.

Also - The UI hasnt been optimised for PC gamers since morrowind, everyone said oblivion sucked then got used to it! Doesnt anyone else remember sitting there thinking "how the fuck do i drop items??" only to figure out its shift, but never actually tells you x-(

EDIT: fixes in this thread.

On November 11 2011 14:59 MASSivezTV wrote:
IF YOURE EXPERIENCING A GAME CRASH AT START:


http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=188440

helped my friend in a matter of minutes, just call me TheGunRun lol


On November 11 2011 14:57 DystopiaX wrote:
Sometimes steam does that.
Instead, follow the instructions
http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/452910-installing-skyrim-from-the-dvd/
there to force install from DVD...Steam can be dumb sometimes.

Useless wet fish.
cannavaro
Profile Joined November 2010
Italy86 Posts
November 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#3317
How can google not find the answer if the pc version has achievements >_>
only talk about console version achievments everywhere...
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
November 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#3318
no crashes, and i'm about 6 hours in. it's a great game.

didn't know about the hotkeys nor the fixes. will apply them after i get home from work.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:38:03
November 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#3319
On November 11 2011 21:35 cannavaro wrote:
How can google not find the answer if the pc version has achievements >_>
only talk about console version achievments everywhere...


There are (at least) 50 Steam-achievements.
SnoWhiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
France121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:39:41
November 11 2011 12:39 GMT
#3320
Hi everyone, i was wondering if it's possible to change the langage of the game ?
'Cause I'm french and I don't want to get stuck with horrible french dub.

PS : I don't have my copy yet, just asking before buying it
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