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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 10 2011 20:32 GMT
#2841
okok i gave up and bought blindly, if this sucks i never buy one of their games again :D

Cant wait for University to finish tomorrow.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 10 2011 20:34 GMT
#2842
On November 11 2011 05:32 LaNague wrote:
okok i gave up and bought blindly, if this sucks i never buy one of their games again :D

Cant wait for University to finish tomorrow.

Haha same here. I couldn't really get into Oblivion even though I tried multiple times but I've read/seen so many good things about Skyrim that I'm gonna give it one last shot. Only a few more hours :O.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
November 10 2011 20:34 GMT
#2843
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg, and a passable hiking simulator. i mean you even get references in skyrim previews of how bad oblivion was and how fixed compared to it skyrim is. or are you arguing that bad writing, bad animations, bad voice acting, generic worlds, nonsensical story and level scaling make for a 10/10 rpg?
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
November 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#2844
ANyone have the problem where it feels like the mouse is in a bowl of syrup?
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 10 2011 20:38 GMT
#2845
On November 11 2011 05:34 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg


huh, what universe you living in?
#1 Grubby Fan.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
November 10 2011 20:40 GMT
#2846
On November 11 2011 05:37 unkkz wrote:
ANyone have the problem where it feels like the mouse is in a bowl of syrup?



Maybe forced acceleration? do you have the registry fix etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
November 10 2011 20:41 GMT
#2847
I thought Oblivion was bad as well but this just looks so much better, Oblivion is probably the main reason why I doubt critics these days.

Buying it tomorrow, I'm slightly afraid that it's going to disappoint me like Oblivion did but hopefully not.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 10 2011 20:42 GMT
#2848
On November 11 2011 05:34 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg, and a passable hiking simulator. i mean you even get references in skyrim previews of how bad oblivion was and how fixed compared to it skyrim is. or are you arguing that bad writing, bad animations, bad voice acting, generic worlds, nonsensical story and level scaling make for a 10/10 rpg?


First of all. Oblivion was not a BAD RPG. Was it the best? no, I would put Morrowind and a ton of other RPGs as "better".

We're not arguing over whether or not the game was a 10/10 game. We're arguing over your claim that
bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers
which is bullshit. Don't make stupid points and then argue your way onto a topic that's completely different.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 10 2011 20:42 GMT
#2849
On November 11 2011 05:34 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg, and a passable hiking simulator. i mean you even get references in skyrim previews of how bad oblivion was and how fixed compared to it skyrim is. or are you arguing that bad writing, bad animations, bad voice acting, generic worlds, nonsensical story and level scaling make for a 10/10 rpg?

Dude all devs in previews talk about how bad their last game was. It makes the improvments sound so much better and wins over people who didn't like previous installments of their series. Oblivion was great, especially with mods
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 20:44:50
November 10 2011 20:43 GMT
#2850
On November 11 2011 05:34 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:32 LaNague wrote:
okok i gave up and bought blindly, if this sucks i never buy one of their games again :D

Cant wait for University to finish tomorrow.

Haha same here. I couldn't really get into Oblivion even though I tried multiple times but I've read/seen so many good things about Skyrim that I'm gonna give it one last shot. Only a few more hours :O.

I had the EXACT same problem as you. I eventually just forced myself (with the help of a friend) to start up the Dark Brotherhood quest chain (this was about 2 days ago) and now I'm actually enjoying Oblivion a pretty good amount. I'm almost disappointed I'm going to stop playing it when Skyrim comes out tonight.

I guess I can go back to it when I get bored of Skyrim... one day.

On November 11 2011 05:37 unkkz wrote:
ANyone have the problem where it feels like the mouse is in a bowl of syrup?

Try disabling vertical sync?
I need this place like I need a shotgun blast to the face.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 10 2011 20:45 GMT
#2851
On November 11 2011 05:43 T3tra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:34 Logros wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:32 LaNague wrote:
okok i gave up and bought blindly, if this sucks i never buy one of their games again :D

Cant wait for University to finish tomorrow.

Haha same here. I couldn't really get into Oblivion even though I tried multiple times but I've read/seen so many good things about Skyrim that I'm gonna give it one last shot. Only a few more hours :O.

I had the EXACT same problem as you. I eventually just forced myself (with the help of a friend) to start up the Dark Brotherhood quest chain (this was about 2 days ago) and now I'm actually enjoying Oblivion a pretty good amount. I'm almost disappointed I'm going to stop playing it when Skyrim comes out tonight.

I guess I can go back to it when I get bored of Skyrim... one day.


Install a shitton of mods into Oblivion, it'll be a good "in between" when you get bored of Skyrim 24/7 :D
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
November 10 2011 20:46 GMT
#2852
On November 11 2011 05:42 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:34 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg, and a passable hiking simulator. i mean you even get references in skyrim previews of how bad oblivion was and how fixed compared to it skyrim is. or are you arguing that bad writing, bad animations, bad voice acting, generic worlds, nonsensical story and level scaling make for a 10/10 rpg?


First of all. Oblivion was not a BAD RPG. Was it the best? no, I would put Morrowind and a ton of other RPGs as "better".

We're not arguing over whether or not the game was a 10/10 game. We're arguing over your claim that
Show nested quote +
bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers
which is bullshit. Don't make stupid points and then argue your way onto a topic that's completely different.



we obviously have different standards on what constitutes BAD RPGs.
my argument for bethesda and paid reviewers was that their games are full of flaws which never impact the end grade or even get a mention in the reviews. also the fact that most reviews read like they were written by bethesdas pr department.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
November 10 2011 20:46 GMT
#2853
playing it right now, looks great, I think the menu was better in oblivion though
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 10 2011 20:49 GMT
#2854
On November 11 2011 05:46 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:42 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:34 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:28 Torenhire wrote:
On November 11 2011 05:25 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:48 WiljushkA wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:39 Vaelone wrote:
49 critic reviews up on metacritics and not a single score below 90/100, I don't hold critic reviews in too high value these days but that does say something.


yeah, bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers. some quite obvious flaws arent even mentioned in most reviews.

proof?


obviously oblivion? it was a buggy piece of level scaled shit with a horribly generic world and bad combat/writing/voice acting (pretty much everything important in an rpg).
it got "perfect game 11/10 game of the year every year" reviews when it came out, then a couple of months later all the reviewers do a retrospective and say yeah you know its not so perfect, actually some of it is quite shitty.

similarly for fallout 3.

i mean their games are so badly compromised in certain aspects (and consistently) and they always get great marks, while the slightest flaw on any other producers RPG (apart from bioware) warrants a 7/10 mark.


Your opinion on ratings != proof.


i thought it was universal opinion that oblivion was a pretty bad rpg, and a passable hiking simulator. i mean you even get references in skyrim previews of how bad oblivion was and how fixed compared to it skyrim is. or are you arguing that bad writing, bad animations, bad voice acting, generic worlds, nonsensical story and level scaling make for a 10/10 rpg?


First of all. Oblivion was not a BAD RPG. Was it the best? no, I would put Morrowind and a ton of other RPGs as "better".

We're not arguing over whether or not the game was a 10/10 game. We're arguing over your claim that
bethesda as always spent a lot of money on reviewers
which is bullshit. Don't make stupid points and then argue your way onto a topic that's completely different.



we obviously have different standards on what constitutes BAD RPGs.
my argument for bethesda and paid reviewers was that their games are full of flaws which never impact the end grade or even get a mention in the reviews. also the fact that most reviews read like they were written by bethesdas pr department.


Yes, and when someone asks for proof, "obviously Oblivion" isn't proof, it's your opinion. Whether or not I think Oblivion is a 1/10 or a 10/10, and same goes for your thoughts of the game, you can't just say that Bethesda pays off critics for good review scores without having hard proof of that.

Just because a reviewer doesn't have a bug that happens in his 15 minute playthrough of the game doesn't mean he was paid off to "miss" it.

TBH I find bugs that reviewers don't find, and I don't find bugs that reviewers find in a LOT of games I play. It's unfair to assume the company bribes for scores, anyways.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 10 2011 20:56 GMT
#2855
some excellent 50kb/s in steam here. Is there any way to speed this up?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 10 2011 20:57 GMT
#2856
On November 11 2011 05:56 WaSa wrote:
some excellent 50kb/s in steam here. Is there any way to speed this up?


There's no internet in Sweden that slow, you liar!

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
November 10 2011 20:59 GMT
#2857
On November 11 2011 05:56 WaSa wrote:
some excellent 50kb/s in steam here. Is there any way to speed this up?



Check torrents etc... steam only using 2/3'rds of my bandwidth for some reason but meh it works
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
November 10 2011 20:59 GMT
#2858
On November 11 2011 05:46 ReignFayth wrote:
playing it right now, looks great, I think the menu was better in oblivion though


same here, looks decent, runs fine on my old rig, but the goddamn menu system is just copied over from consoles (and man is it bad).

on another note, the game alt tabs just fine. loading times are good. dialogue and animations are still goddamn awful.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 10 2011 20:59 GMT
#2859
Has anyone figured out yet how to change the FoV? Seems rather low currently. Game so far rather good, aside in the dungeon I had the feeling my character's movement felt a bit jerky.
Pokemon Master
Saishuuheiki
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
November 10 2011 21:00 GMT
#2860
For those judging oblivion, I think it was OK for the time. You have to remember that wasn't exactly a fantastic time for RPGs. It wasn't a genre definer, but it wasn't awful either. It was more middle-of-the-road of mainstream RPGs.
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