On March 12 2012 07:02 Karliath wrote: Is there a place I can find all of the possible ending combos? A chart, maybe?
This is probably the best bet you have right now. It is still very barebone and incomplete though, as I noticed the page itself has been edited multiple times for the past few days, so even the info may be inaccurate. They are even doing a contest and will reward any contributor who will polish the ending page up, with information and videos and all.
If you really want complete and accurate flowchart and detailed info, I suggest waiting for another week or so at least. The game hasn't been out for more than a week, and majority of European players (except those using VPN) only got to start playing ME3 not more than 2 days ago.
You know, I'd be more okay with it if they could just own up to it.
This is just sad.
:|
I know this isn't even Bioware's fault, it's EA's. That's what pisses me off the most.
Well, they CAN do this, because they know that people will buy it no matter what. As long as people keep buying the shitty products they(and other companies) sell these days, they won't change the "winning formula". Just look at the Modern Warfare series. Single player is a short movie with 5 minutes of gameplay, and multiplayer is just boring fps, but with ranks and achievements that make people want to play even though it's not exciting at all. But since they sell as fuck, they will just keep making them like this.
(yes, I know that MW is from Activision, but same goes for that company)
And if you think about it... Bioware only ever said that ME3 is the end of Shepards story... we could very well head ME4 where it is explained to us that Shepard was indoctrinated or something and the Reapers are still fucking things up.
And if you think about it... Bioware only ever said that ME3 is the end of Shepards story... we could very well head ME4 where it is explained to us that Shepard was indoctrinated or something and the Reapers are still fucking things up.
I would immediately stop caring, not that the mess that has been the Mass Effect trilogy hasn't already caused me to stop caring. I mean, that would make the most recent season finale / premiere of "The Mentalist" seem like a good idea.
Let's be real here. Bioware isn't being clever or trolls or whatever. The ending is the ending they intended. We're just wanting to believe the indoctrination theory because it's a million times better than the real thing. People see simple laziness and plot holes as "clues" to the indoctrination theory because we think there is no way Bioware could have fucked up this bad with the ending. Sorry to say but they did fuck up plain and simple. There is still a chance they could fix it with an alternate endings DLC but it won't have been something they intended to do; it'll be a way to deal with the unexpected backlash from their former fans.
I finished the game today, and overall I was pretty impressed by it. Endings was so-so. I'll be putting up a review tomorrow for anyone to read if they were on the fence or whatever.
On March 12 2012 08:52 Slow Motion wrote: Let's be real here. Bioware isn't being clever or trolls or whatever. The ending is the ending they intended. We're just wanting to believe the indoctrination theory because it's a million times better than the real thing. People see simple laziness and plot holes as "clues" to the indoctrination theory because we think there is no way Bioware could have fucked up this bad with the ending. Sorry to say but they did fuck up plain and simple. There is still a chance they could fix it with an alternate endings DLC but it won't have been something they intended to do; it'll be a way to deal with the unexpected backlash from their former fans.
And if you think about it... Bioware only ever said that ME3 is the end of Shepards story... we could very well head ME4 where it is explained to us that Shepard was indoctrinated or something and the Reapers are still fucking things up.
I would immediately stop caring, not that the mess that has been the Mass Effect trilogy hasn't already caused me to stop caring. I mean, that would make the most recent season finale / premiere of "The Mentalist" seem like a good idea.
If they did make a #4 i wish the reapers were really gone and just like fast forward 500 years, bam new problems. Playing mass effect is fucking amazing to me because its like playing out a good space opera.
Also there are more endings(Or so ive heard) if you have a higher readiness rating which i only had at 50%, either way i was content with the ending, + Show Spoiler +
not every movie/game has to be a happy ending, infact a grim one is somewhat of a fresh breeze
So, I took the time to get >5000 EMS to get the perfect ending. I have some questions on the imperfect ending + Show Spoiler +
If you don't have high EMS, does it actually make any noticeable difference on how things play out? I would imagine that you the inter-galactic militia would take unimagineable losses if you aren't well prepared. Is that why everyone is complaining about how depressing the ending is?
Or does nothing change between the imperfect and perfect ending except that Shepard is somehow alive in the latter ending?
On March 12 2012 10:36 Scribble wrote: So, I took the time to get >5000 EMS to get the perfect ending. I have some questions on the imperfect ending + Show Spoiler +
If you don't have high EMS, does it actually make any noticeable difference on how things play out? I would imagine that you the inter-galactic militia would take unimagineable losses if you aren't well prepared. Is that why everyone is complaining about how depressing the ending is?
Or does nothing change between the imperfect and perfect ending except that Shepard is somehow alive in the latter ending?
You don't really see too much of an impact on the cinematics, it is just a few crucial things that change due to the readiness. I think it is up to 2600 you have access to all endings, which are basically the same. There is an extra scene for the "destroy synthetics" that is added if your readiness is around the 4000-5000 mark. On the surface the ending is pretty shitty. But if you get the chance to unlock that extra scene, just sit and think what it means and how it actually impacts the last ~20 min of the game.
If your readiness is low enough, earth is just destroyed or severely damaged.
I would be okay with the ending if it was just executed better. The part that really rubs me the wrong way is the Normandy flying off to God knows where with my squadmates who were just with me in London before assaulting the conduit thing. Hell, if they had just left that out and left people to guess what really happened to Shepard after getting zapped by the reaper, I think there would be less fuss. I expected Shepard to die (and it's not even clear whether he survives), but I would have liked to have seen some kind of resolution with regards to what happens to my squadmates (not to mention the galaxy). Being inexplicably stranded on some jungle planet obviously doesn't fit that bill.
On another note, I was wildly disappointed with the final earth mission. I expected to see the war assets come into play and actually make a difference. For example, I expected Jack and her biotic students to make an appearance and aid Shepard along towards to the conduit. I also expected that there would be points where you would have to order certain people to go sacrifice themselves for the common good. This didn't happen either. Instead, you just had to slug it out in the streets by yourself, which was pretty weak.
And if you think about it... Bioware only ever said that ME3 is the end of Shepards story... we could very well head ME4 where it is explained to us that Shepard was indoctrinated or something and the Reapers are still fucking things up.
I would immediately stop caring, not that the mess that has been the Mass Effect trilogy hasn't already caused me to stop caring. I mean, that would make the most recent season finale / premiere of "The Mentalist" seem like a good idea.
If they did make a #4 i wish the reapers were really gone and just like fast forward 500 years, bam new problems. Playing mass effect is fucking amazing to me because its like playing out a good space opera.
Also there are more endings(Or so ive heard) if you have a higher readiness rating which i only had at 50%, either way i was content with the ending, + Show Spoiler +
not every movie/game has to be a happy ending, infact a grim one is somewhat of a fresh breeze
except the ending doesn't explain itself beyond this picture: + Show Spoiler +
How can you call that grim? It's just mindbogglingly stupid.
I would be okay with the ending if it was just executed better. The part that really rubs me the wrong way is the Normandy flying off to God knows where with my squadmates who were just with me in London before assaulting the conduit thing. Hell, if they had just left that out and left people to guess what really happened to Shepard after getting zapped by the reaper, I think there would be less fuss. I expected Shepard to die (and it's not even clear whether he survives), but I would have liked to have seen some kind of resolution with regards to what happens to my squadmates (not to mention the galaxy). Being inexplicably stranded on some jungle planet obviously doesn't fit that bill.
On another note, I was wildly disappointed with the final earth mission. I expected to see the war assets come into play and actually make a difference. For example, I expected Jack and her biotic students to make an appearance and aid Shepard along towards to the conduit. I also expected that there would be points where you would have to order certain people to go sacrifice themselves for the common good. This didn't happen either. Instead, you just had to slug it out in the streets by yourself, which was pretty weak.
Yea I was really hoping you would get to see some of your war assets whupping some ass in the final sequence. I know the part with the missiles I could have definitely used the help. My intuition tells me that bioware has plans to expand upon the ending, they are just letting it sink in a little atm. I know I am not really taking that ending at face value.
Bah so been playing lots of multiplayer, unlocked the asari adept and thus decided it would be my main character, but then I just opened up the black widow xD though since I dont have a salarian infiltrator at this point in time ill just play a few matches on my human infiltrator to feel the awesomeness of the black widow. I keep going spectre packs (well..opened 4 of them so far I think) to hopefully get the carnifex, apparently its as op as op can be, and would make my asari perfect. That being said, if I get the salarian infiltrator first I guess ill go with that xD
On March 12 2012 10:36 Scribble wrote: So, I took the time to get >5000 EMS to get the perfect ending. I have some questions on the imperfect ending + Show Spoiler +
If you don't have high EMS, does it actually make any noticeable difference on how things play out? I would imagine that you the inter-galactic militia would take unimagineable losses if you aren't well prepared. Is that why everyone is complaining about how depressing the ending is?
Or does nothing change between the imperfect and perfect ending except that Shepard is somehow alive in the latter ending?
Based from what I know, to elaborate on some differences that you will get with higher military points :
Firstly, I myself had "perfect" military score in all 3 endings, so the differences I am listing below for those with lower EMS will be based on people's writeup and Youtube videos : (also, major ending spoilers warning for obvious reasons) + Show Spoiler +
- At very low EMS, you only get to choose to control the Reapers, or destroy the Reapers (and other synthetics including EDI). At slightly higher EMS, you can choose "synthesis" as third option, basically merging everyone's DNA in the galaxy creating organics-synthetics hybrid. - Different EMS also determines the 3 states of the Earth in the ending cutscene : whether it is utterly destroyed (cutscene played : Big Ben explodes, soldiers vaporized, destruction wave enveloping Earth), it is mostly devastated (cutscene played : Big Ben explodes, soldiers looking at Reapers destroyed/leaving), or it is mostly saved (cutscene played : Big Ben doesn't explode, soldiers looking at Reapers destroyed/leaving and then cheering victoriously) - At the most perfect ending, and only with the "destroy Reaper" option (you won't get this with "synthesis" option or "control Reaper" option for obvious reasons) you get an additional 10 seconds or so cutscene depicting Shephard's dogtag and N7 armor initially laying still, and then followed by a gasp. - Also, I was told that EMS also determines whether Anderson got killed immediately during your encounter with Illusive Man, or he survived longer to have a little chat and last words with you, only to pass away afterwards from his wounds. I was initially under impression that this is influenced by your reputation level.
As such, there is no such thing as the "galactic armada got trashed around" cutscene as you mentioned. Every single one of possible endings, in whatever EMS level, have the same cutscene structure, in direct order : 1. Shephard shooting red pillar (destroy Reaper + synthetics); holding blue pillar (control Reaper) and Shephard got disintegrated; or jumping into the center of Crucible and got disintegrated (synthesis) 2. Flashbacks of Joker, Anderson, love interest (don't know what would be shown here if you don't have love interest) 3. Red/Blue/Green waves emanating from Crucible 4. Cutscene depicting one of the 3 states of Earth (utterly destroyed, mostly devastated, mostly saved) as described above based on your EMS level 5. Crucible breaking off (if either synthesis or destroy Reaper option is chosen) or Crucible closing off (if control Reaper if chosen) 6. Mass relays destroyed (no matter what choices you made), relaying Red/Blue/Green waves across the other relays 7. Normandy being chased with said colored explosion 8. Normandy crashed onto a planet, synthetic-hybrid plant leaves depicted if choosing "synthesis" option, normal plant leaves otherwise 9. Joker getting out of the Normandy, followed by EDI and one squadmate (only if synthesis option is chosen), or 2 squadmates (if destroy Reaper/control Reaper is chosen). I was told that you get shorter/incomplete part of this cutscene with lower EMS?? 10. Shepard body, followed by a gasp cutscene, as mentioned above. Only available with "destroy Reaper" (red wave) option for obvious reasons
So really, with regards to the cutscenes, the only time EMS makes any difference is on part 4, possibly part 9 (confirm/deny?), and additional very short part 10.
On March 12 2012 11:06 FireSA wrote: Bah so been playing lots of multiplayer, unlocked the asari adept and thus decided it would be my main character, but then I just opened up the black widow xD though since I dont have a salarian infiltrator at this point in time ill just play a few matches on my human infiltrator to feel the awesomeness of the black widow. I keep going spectre packs (well..opened 4 of them so far I think) to hopefully get the carnifex, apparently its as op as op can be, and would make my asari perfect. That being said, if I get the salarian infiltrator first I guess ill go with that xD
Yea I have been quite addicted to the multiplayer. I have really wanted an Asari adept and have opened tons of spectre packs but no luck yet. Been maining infiltrator with a viper and sentinel. In my opinion, sentinel is the least item-dependent of the classes and is very strong. I have nearly soloed a bronze (unlucky pyro at wave 10) with nothing but a lvl 7 starter pistol and lvl 20. Throw+warp too awesome.
On March 12 2012 10:36 Scribble wrote: So, I took the time to get >5000 EMS to get the perfect ending. I have some questions on the imperfect ending + Show Spoiler +
If you don't have high EMS, does it actually make any noticeable difference on how things play out? I would imagine that you the inter-galactic militia would take unimagineable losses if you aren't well prepared. Is that why everyone is complaining about how depressing the ending is?
Or does nothing change between the imperfect and perfect ending except that Shepard is somehow alive in the latter ending?
Based from what I know, to elaborate on some differences that you will get with higher military points :
Firstly, I myself had "perfect" military score in all 3 endings, so the differences I am listing below for those with lower EMS will be based on people's writeup and Youtube videos : (also, major ending spoilers warning for obvious reasons) + Show Spoiler +
- At very low EMS, you only get to choose to control the Reapers, or destroy the Reapers (and other synthetics including EDI). At slightly higher EMS, you can choose "synthesis" as third option, basically merging everyone's DNA in the galaxy creating organics-synthetics hybrid. - Different EMS also determines the 3 states of the Earth in the ending cutscene : whether it is utterly destroyed (cutscene played : Big Ben explodes, soldiers vaporized, destruction wave enveloping Earth), it is mostly devastated (cutscene played : Big Ben explodes, soldiers looking at Reapers destroyed/leaving), or it is mostly saved (cutscene played : Big Ben doesn't explode, soldiers looking at Reapers destroyed/leaving and then cheering victoriously) - At the most perfect ending, and only with the "destroy Reaper" option (you won't get this with "synthesis" option or "control Reaper" option for obvious reasons) you get an additional 10 seconds or so cutscene depicting Shephard's dogtag and N7 armor initially laying still, and then followed by a gasp. - Also, I was told that EMS also determines whether Anderson got killed immediately during your encounter with Illusive Man, or he survived longer to have a little chat and last words with you, only to pass away afterwards from his wounds. I was initially under impression that this is influenced by your reputation level.
IGN pretty much listed all 17 outcomes here (based on readiness rating).
I find getting 6k+ war assets really really easy... I had 6k before I even fought Kai Leng on Thessia.
If you want to unlock Asari Adept or most classes, don't buy Spectre packs lol. They're only golds which can be achieved from the veteran packs that you can buy 3 of for 1 Spectre. Spectre packs are definitely more for unlocking rare shit like the Black Widow.
Please use spoilers when discussing the campaign. On the issue of spectre vs. veteran packs, at least in the demo, when I looked at the numbers in Coalesced.bin, Vet packs had a 10% chance of giving you a rare weapon and a 15% chance of giving you a rare (alien, like Quarian Engineer) class. However, Bioware did say that they increased the chances to unlock classes from vet packs, and you can't see the numbers anymore (they are all stored server-side, finally).
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