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peeeky
Canada631 Posts
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Billy_
461 Posts
Lol, so Shepard saves the Reapers the trouble and kills the whole galaxy himself. Looks like those mass relay explosions would have killed off anyone in the system, and isolated as everyone is now they can't rely on each other for support. | ||
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FrozenFlare
Australia103 Posts
after Shepherd got hit by Harbinger's laser, where he gets up and everything is in slow-mo If you think about it Bioware is a company that has mostly only made RPGs, their specialty is RPGs and with their impressive history of previous games shows that they're very capable of making good stories, you'd think they would know by now how to write an impressive story and finish it, this is clearly shown by everything they've done with the Mass Effect series right up until the end of Mass Effect 3. I'm pretty sure that they KNOW how to end a story properly and this definitely isn't it. Also Mass Effect is their biggest franchise, it is completely unbelievable of them to purposefully...no, unintentionally even, to screw over their best product to date. Mass effect 2 ended with the DLC 'The Arrival'. The question now is what sort of DLC will Mass Effect 3 end with? I mean it would be completely ridiculous for the last DLC to be another side quest. Just picture this, if you managed to get enough EMS to get a tease of + Show Spoiler + Shepard taking an awakening breath at the end hinting he's still alive on the London streets tl;dr As long as the final DLC of Mass Effect 3 has not been released yet, as far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect 3's story has not ended yet. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Just finished it. Thought it was decent, if not a little too linear at times, but my god the ending completely destroyed it for me. WTF were the writers smoking? Did they just get high and play through Deus Ex 1 and decide "oh that seems kinda nice, we'll do something like that!"? I mean nevermind the fact that there are so many logical holes, like your two squadmates suddenly turning up on the normandy when they should've been getting fried next to you trying to get on the citadel. Also, why was the normandy fleeing earth during the final battle? WHAT? And why does it feel like none of what I did over the past 3 games changed anything at the end? OH WAIT, IT'S BECAUSE IT DIDN'T. And nothing was wrapped up with the ending. It's just a few cutscene of NOTHING. It would've taken them 5 minutes to come up with that shit. On top of that, I just found out that you have to play the multiplayer to access the best endings, like Shepard surviving at the end. WHAT.THE.FUCK? I mean I finished every single quest in the game and I still didn't have enough readiness (or whatever that shit is called) to unlock it. Are you frigging kidding me? I love(d) the series to bits, but Bioware seriously screwed the pooch with the ending. Now I feel bad about buying this. Should've just pirated the hell out of it. So fuck you Bioware/EA, and thanks for messing up your last decent franchise. I'm done with you. ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and I forgot the worst part of it all. This guy says it pretty well: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9801194 Yeah, so basically, my opinion of ME3. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On March 12 2012 13:26 FrozenFlare wrote: Something is definitely going on, the game has just released and only 1 DLC has been out so far (if you even count that as a generic DLC considering it was released on day 1). There are more DLC to come, there has gotta be something more to this. To be honest whilst playing the following sequence after Shepherd got hit by Harbinger's laser, where he gets up and everything is in slow-mo, I Instantly felt out of place, like it was hallucination, it just seemed too straight forward and such a dramatic change of tone. If you think about it Bioware is a company that has mostly only made RPGs, their specialty is RPGs and with their impressive history of previous games shows that they're very capable of making good stories, you'd think they would know by now how to write an impressive story and finish it, this is clearly shown by everything they've done with the Mass Effect series right up until the end of Mass Effect 3. I'm pretty sure that they KNOW how to end a story properly and this definitely isn't it. Mass effect 2 ended with the DLC 'The Arrival'. The question now is what sort of DLC will Mass Effect 3 end with? I mean it would be completely ridiculous for the last DLC to be another side quest. Just picture this, if you managed to get enough EMS to + Show Spoiler + get a tease of Shepard taking an awakening breath at the end hinting he's still alive on the London streets. tl;dr As long as the final DLC of Mass Effect 3 has not been released yet, as far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect 3's story has not ended yet. Exactly. I am so skeptical of the ending. Which you should probably spoiler anyway. But yea it all adds up to a hallucination imo. Another really odd thing about the ending I noticed + Show Spoiler + If liara is in your party, you find her dead when you wake up after the laser beam. But then you can see her leaving the ship on the foreign planet sometimes. For a company to make a game series spanning 5 years, this is a very serious oversight which leads me to believe it isn't an oversight at all. People really need to put ending spoilers in spoilers. Game has barely been out for some countries. People come to this thread to get opinions, not spoilers. | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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FrozenFlare
Australia103 Posts
So from an optimistic point of view, the story has not ended yet, the journey still continues, we've fought too long and hard for it just to end here like this, have faith and believe! what would Commander Shepard do! :D | ||
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Mvrio
689 Posts
sorry if posted already, didn't go through the thread | ||
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jslocum
United States80 Posts
see if they die or not and see how they take you dying or not.. still liked it overall though | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On March 12 2012 14:21 Mvrio wrote: remember the videos of all the best renegade responses? hope the creator makes ME3's version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy-eRfupYbA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4 sorry if posted already, didn't go through the thread Ummm, when the renegade mouse button smash thingie appeared on the vid I instantly clicked my mouse, rofl. The evil is strong in me. trolololo | ||
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FrozenFlare
Australia103 Posts
On March 12 2012 14:28 jslocum wrote: I guess I kind of concur with the above posts. I really liked the game, except the ending made me do a double take. My main problems were with the fact that they didn't cover what happens to anyone except shepard, and why the normandy was randomly leaving.. I really would have liked to see what happens to your squadmates, or maybe your romantic interest,+ Show Spoiler + see if they die or not and see how they take you dying or not.. still liked it overall though And that my friend is why we're concluding that the game has not 'entirely' finished yet, any good story teller would provide some sort of epilogue involving major characters and possibly set some time in the near future, and providing their whereabouts after a long difficult journey. Heck if Twilight was able to provide an epilogue (not that I read Twilight, I google'd if it had one just then LOL) there is no reason why a story and game 5 years in the making with so much character development should not have one. Unless BioWare is an incompetent story teller, which I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt. 'I've got a good lead, and I know how to finish, now I just need the right body' - Diana Allers <- and I don't think BioWare just put this line in there just for laughs  | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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FrozenFlare
Australia103 Posts
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Jayve
155 Posts
Personally, I'm not sure what I think of the ending yet. I think I still need to process it. I think a symbolic, almost perfect ending would be if the cycle couldn't have been stopped. | ||
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Billy_
461 Posts
On March 12 2012 13:26 FrozenFlare wrote: Something is definitely going on, the game has just released and only 1 DLC has been out so far (if you even count that as a generic DLC considering it was released on day 1). There are more DLC to come, there has gotta be something more to this. To be honest whilst playing the following sequence + Show Spoiler + after Shepherd got hit by Harbinger's laser, where he gets up and everything is in slow-mo If you think about it Bioware is a company that has mostly only made RPGs, their specialty is RPGs and with their impressive history of previous games shows that they're very capable of making good stories, you'd think they would know by now how to write an impressive story and finish it, this is clearly shown by everything they've done with the Mass Effect series right up until the end of Mass Effect 3. I'm pretty sure that they KNOW how to end a story properly and this definitely isn't it. Also Mass Effect is their biggest franchise, it is completely unbelievable of them to purposefully...no, unintentionally even, to screw over their best product to date. Mass effect 2 ended with the DLC 'The Arrival'. The question now is what sort of DLC will Mass Effect 3 end with? I mean it would be completely ridiculous for the last DLC to be another side quest. Just picture this, if you managed to get enough EMS to get a tease of + Show Spoiler + Shepard taking an awakening breath at the end hinting he's still alive on the London streets tl;dr As long as the final DLC of Mass Effect 3 has not been released yet, as far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect 3's story has not ended yet. Yep. The dream sequence before the citadel elevator and indocrination on citadel theories are both very real possibilities, and I hope that Bioware realise this. If so, it is probably the most successful cliffhanger ending in the history of gaming. Totally lame, and Bioware would be jerks to even think about toying with their fans like this, but still... I had a lot of fun playing through the whole trilogy (multiple times), so I can forgive and forget as long as Bioware actually fill in the details with expansion and DLC. They've always done this with all their (popular) games ever since Neverwinter Nights, so history gives us no reason to expect ME3 to be any different. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
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zLBowsan
United States36 Posts
On March 12 2012 16:02 Billy_ wrote: ...so I can forgive and forget as long as Bioware actually fill in the details with expansion and DLC. They've always done this with all their (popular) games ever since Neverwinter Nights, so history gives us no reason to expect ME3 to be any different. This is exactly how I feel too. The problem that I had (and I assume most others had as well) was the fact that we receive NO CLOSURE AT ALL. Anything would have been fine, at least a little taste of closure or something hinting to the idea of it as DLC later, but we literally received nothing from it, and I think that is what most people are upset and disappointed about. The ending was clearly rushed out due to some sort of pressure that EA was putting on Bioware to finish the game. There was a post somewhere I read about the small details that were really easy to spot in the ending which clearly made it seem rushed and really something Bioware would never do if they actually spent the time on it. Again, any closure at all would have kept me content, simply because I think the ending was meant to be discussed and thought about a good deal, but to this extent was clearly a mistake on Bioware's part. | ||
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Rimak
Denmark434 Posts
On March 12 2012 13:51 BWalma wrote: I know I was not dissapointed with the confrontation I had with Tali. Man I love that space chick . + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/ih8uxc.jpg) | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On March 12 2012 13:39 Hoban wrote: Exactly. I am so skeptical of the ending. Which you should probably spoiler anyway. But yea it all adds up to a hallucination imo. Another really odd thing about the ending I noticed + Show Spoiler + If liara is in your party, you find her dead when you wake up after the laser beam. But then you can see her leaving the ship on the foreign planet sometimes. For a company to make a game series spanning 5 years, this is a very serious oversight which leads me to believe it isn't an oversight at all. People really need to put ending spoilers in spoilers. Game has barely been out for some countries. People come to this thread to get opinions, not spoilers. + Show Spoiler + Liara was in my party and I didn't see her dead, nor did I see her in the spaceship (I saw Joker, Tali and Garrus). You sure you didn't just see some random Asari? As for the hallucination ending. That would work, if it wasn't for the fact that we see things that happen after Shepard dying. And for the fact that we also had the stargazer man and the boy for the secret ending and it served as an "Epilogue". Face it. They screwed up the ending bad. There won't be a continuation, and there won't be proper closure. + Show Spoiler [Tali] + She looked prettier than you would have expected. Having her be pale white, with some veins showing, and short hair would have made more sense. Would have been better had they not done such a hack job with it. I get the feeling the picture started as a joke, but given the amount of focus Shepard has on it if you romance Tali, it feels really out of place. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Why is it that everyone seems to assume there is no space travel without the mass relays? With the Normandy I was always able to travel between stars (in one cluster) just fine without a mass relay. With the help of its mass effect core or whatever. Ok we dont know how long these travels between two star systems were in real time, but given the overall story it can never have been more than a week, probably much less. Distances between stars in one cluster might be something like 10 to 20 light years. Which means that spacecraft in the ME universe can travel at at least 1000 times the speed of light, without any mass relays. Very rough estimate, but you get the idea. So yeah, the loss of the mass relays would make space travel more tedious. But people should still be able to travel between the stars just fine, build their galactic empires etc. | ||
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