10000: [Guide] Tetris Ultra ST Stacking - Page 7

On December 11 2010 00:08 meffo wrote:
well, it's a well made game, but i still have to say it's nothing like the original tetris. i can see the next five pieces coming? wtf is up with that? it's supposed to be you can just see the the very next piece. and holding? that's just so lame. i understand tetris is a very difficult game, but why make it this easy for the player? getting only tetrises and always being prepared for the next piece is what the game was originally about, now it's all of a sudden evolved far beyond by comprehension. i guess that's why i'm raging so much about it. but the grid just showing exactly where the piece would land, seeing the next five pieces and being able to move pieces around almost indefinitely when they've landed before locking probably just made my brain go boom. tetrisfriends really pissed me off.

trying t-spins was kind of fun for a while, though. i just think that tetrisfriends really raped the game beyond recognition. i'm a little sad.

On December 11 2010 00:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
lol i remember hearing a story that flamewheels score got DQd because facebook thought he was a bot or something, and he posted a video to prove it but his score wasn't restored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWAwPw781RU

On December 11 2010 00:08 meffo wrote:
well, it's a well made game, but i still have to say it's nothing like the original tetris. i can see the next five pieces coming? wtf is up with that? it's supposed to be you can just see the the very next piece. and holding? that's just so lame. i understand tetris is a very difficult game, but why make it this easy for the player? getting only tetrises and always being prepared for the next piece is what the game was originally about, now it's all of a sudden evolved far beyond by comprehension. i guess that's why i'm raging so much about it. but the grid just showing exactly where the piece would land, seeing the next five pieces and being able to move pieces around almost indefinitely when they've landed before locking probably just made my brain go boom. tetrisfriends really pissed me off.

trying t-spins was kind of fun for a while, though. i just think that tetrisfriends really raped the game beyond recognition. i'm a little sad.

On December 11 2010 00:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
lol i remember hearing a story that flamewheels score got DQd because facebook thought he was a bot or something, and he posted a video to prove it but his score wasn't restored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWAwPw781RU

On December 09 2010 01:35 DarkOptik wrote:
Very impressive. This guy mentions that ]343[ is the number two Tetris Ultra player in the world, without mentioning who is number one. Should be obvious who is number one .

I would play on TF, but ever since they added new -delay variables that you could only get by mass grinding, I've completely lost interest.

On December 09 2010 08:14 Mr Tambourine Man wrote:
Awesome post!
I love tetris. I actually always have my 1989 gameboy tetris closeby for some line making.
I also like the grandmaster series, do you also play that? I actually play Texmaster, which is practically the same, but playable on a computer. Anyone else here play TGM style tetris?

On December 09 2010 11:34 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Yeah i kinda needed this guide. I taught my self how to ST, however i have trouble with the set up sometimes, where i'll have to soft drop and do awkward Z and L spins to get the set up right. Your aspect for setting for this guide is great. Also, flamewheel i'm just curious, were you the one who talked to me in my tetris stream the other night?

On December 09 2010 13:19 onihunter wrote:
thanks for the very informative guide

how would you recommend a beginner start learning how to do all this? it just seems very overwhelming. what should i practice first? only focus on openings until i get decent at it?

On December 09 2010 15:19 heyoka wrote:
This is incredible, I'm so happy you finished it. Thanks!

whats the deal with the tetrisfriends leaderboard, it shows you at #2 with the top score being 274k but when you click the game he only scores 55k or so

On December 10 2010 05:38 FaZ- wrote:
This was interesting, I gave it a try for a few hours and the best I manged to do was 5 T-spins for about 8500 points.

Using my way, I got about 10500, but I've been doing that for a few years, so I'm willing to concede to a superior methodology.


A few things that would've helped me learn faster that I found out through trial and error:

1. The opening is a giant mess. Just try to get your two spin slots set up and don't leave any holes.
2. If you screw up by having to lay down a purple that isn't double-line T-Spin, you can still keep going. Just put the next red as far right as possible and set it down like you normally would. It will still line up properly with your next T-Spin and you'll just have a few rows of garbage at the bottom to ignore.
3. You can leave holes in the left side at no expense. However, they have to be in the bottom row of your 3x3 blocks you're forming in the center-right "combo columns", or they'll block you. Or, described another way, one row above where your T-Spin slots are.


I'm aware most of this isn't relevant for high score attempts, but it lets you learn a lot faster.

On December 11 2010 13:08 paksam wrote:
wow thanks for this thread, I've been playing tetris on my cellphone (haha its not as bad as you think) for years now and i've been completely focused on mainly always tetris-ing at quick speed until the end of the game. Even with knowledge of what t-spins were i never figured a way to continually do it. This thread opens up a whole new world of tetris making it feel like I'm playing it for the first time.

Just wondering something though, when opening ive seen there are basically 2 ways to start the center section...1)with the bottom 6/9(of the 3x3 area closest to the bottom of C) being occupied by 2 pieces(ie green and yellow in 2nd opening pic)... and 2) with 8/9(all but top right of the 3x3 area closest to bottom of C) being occupied by 2 pieces(ie orange and green in 1st opening pic)

k well my problem is that it seems with the latter opening (option 2) it is really a lot harder to set up the C-section for t-spins with the provided basic center stacking combinations(in the configuration shown on page1 - sorry i'm new and i don't really know how posting pictures work lol) and i do realize you compensate for this by stacking 2 yellow's on top of the orange-green opening), but what i've been starting to see is that those 2 yellow's seem unnecessary if you use the same basic center stacking combinations but in different configs (ie rotated and whatnot).




k so my question is....Is that something you've accounted for and found out that in the late-game that it is just way easier to have those yellow's there to start just so you can use the center stacking combinations in the configs you are use to? or does it have to do with the left side stacking (and i also know that instead of 2 yellows you could use a 2orange or 2blue but that screws with the order of which the pieces come in usually)

lol anyway....very long question and please just disregard this if i'm making absolutely no sense, i'm just a huge fan of tetris and sc(obviously)

thanks! (best guide ever!)