On March 24 2011 08:10 mordk wrote: I just got Shogun 2 but I can't get it to work. As soon as I fire it up, before the game even loads, I get a BSOD and my PC resets. I have a PC good enough to run the game. From what I've read up to now it's a hardware issue which some people have fixed by updating drivers. I've already updated video drivers and now I'm doing the same with sound drivers. Next step would be BIOS, however, that scares me like hell hahahah, I'm a real noob at this.
My MB is a MS-7255 P4M9002-L by MSI. How do I update the BIOS??
I actually saw posts with the opposite recommendation. Esp. for video, some people have suggested downgrading the driver to an older version. Of course this all depends on your system setup.
Another trick is to take advantage of the negotiations early on to maximize your later macro. I convinced a few factions to let me bang their daughter for a few hundred gold.
After that they were pretty susceptible to my charm at Very Friendly. So I opened my borders to them for 20 turns for a few more hundred on turn 1. Made about 1.5k off 3 factions and purchased all important upgrades. (Don't get roads early on because it allows enemy troops to march to your castle much faster.) About 20 turns later, they renew this contract for 3-4k.
Lots of haters hate and declare war, so just defend that shit by crushing their army. Make sure you exterminate the stragglers. After your province is clear from outside invaders, offer a peace treaty, trade agreement, and charge them.
Every new year I look for new princesses to bang. When my neighbors get conquered, I offer new contracts to allow military into my base for some cash money. $_$
Yeah this game sucks for sure, trying to do battles in real time now. Thing is my bowmen wont fucking work, half of them turn the wrong way mid battle and just stare into the horizon. The rest im lucky if I get one volley off before the whole enemy is at my archers. Must be the slowest reloaders ever, they fire once and it takes like 2-3 hours before they reload.
Also, you can not wait for the enemy to attack you? I positioned my archers in a great line formation to wait until the enemy attacked me. Thing is though the enemy never attacked, didnt move a fucking muscle, was on 3x and then the battle ended with timelimit with 0 casualties for neither side.
On March 24 2011 08:54 keit wrote: Yeah this game sucks for sure, trying to do battles in real time now. Thing is my bowmen wont fucking work, half of them turn the wrong way mid battle and just stare into the horizon. The rest im lucky if I get one volley off before the whole enemy is at my archers. Must be the slowest reloaders ever, they fire once and it takes like 2-3 hours before they reload.
Also, you can not wait for the enemy to attack you? I positioned my archers in a great line formation to wait until the enemy attacked me. Thing is though the enemy never attacked, didnt move a fucking muscle, was on 3x and then the battle ended with timelimit with 0 casualties for neither side.
If you initiated combat, they would be defending. Archers reload pretty fast, you probably weren't in range. you can right click and drag to set up your archers in a suitable formation.
A common trick to engagement is baiting the enemy to charge into your archer/spearman line. Throw out some cannon fodder ashigaru out there and lure their troops in and pounce. Keep troops hidden in grass and have exposed archers and their general will charge. Catch their cavalry/general before they can retreat. If you position your units very favorably they will charge I notice. Also if the AI believes it has an overwhelming force, it will charge. so you can split up your main for with a few strike squads.
Lol I know how to setup formations, completed all battle tutorials without hassle.
Thing is tho I got like a 8 stack archer and 2 ashigaru army. shouldnt my fucking archers mow down every unit before they even get to battle? No, they just fucking get run over like bitches.
On March 24 2011 09:05 keit wrote: Lol I know how to setup formations, completed all battle tutorials without hassle.
Thing is tho I got like a 8 stack archer and 2 ashigaru army. shouldnt my fucking archers mow down every unit before they even get to battle? No, they just fucking get run over like bitches.
You clearly just don't enjoy the game. Eight groups of archers may mow down certain unit groups, but not heavily armored troops. Why not go for a more balanced army?
On March 24 2011 09:05 keit wrote: Lol I know how to setup formations, completed all battle tutorials without hassle.
Thing is tho I got like a 8 stack archer and 2 ashigaru army. shouldnt my fucking archers mow down every unit before they even get to battle? No, they just fucking get run over like bitches.
You clearly just don't enjoy the game. Eight groups of archers may mow down certain unit groups, but not heavily armored troops. Why not go for a more balanced army?
Cause it was my 2nd turn in my newly started campaign lol.
My point was just that I heard from several sources that archers were so OP that every battle was autowin if you massed them.
On March 24 2011 08:49 stfn wrote: Another trick is to take advantage of the negotiations early on to maximize your later macro. I convinced a few factions to let me bang their daughter for a few hundred gold.
After that they were pretty susceptible to my charm at Very Friendly. So I opened my borders to them for 20 turns for a few more hundred on turn 1. Made about 1.5k off 3 factions and purchased all important upgrades. (Don't get roads early on because it allows enemy troops to march to your castle much faster.) About 20 turns later, they renew this contract for 3-4k.
Lots of haters hate and declare war, so just defend that shit by crushing their army. Make sure you exterminate the stragglers. After your province is clear from outside invaders, offer a peace treaty, trade agreement, and charge them.
Every new year I look for new princesses to bang. When my neighbors get conquered, I offer new contracts to allow military into my base for some cash money. $_$
This was done on Legendary.
ahaha nicely put, banging other faction's daughters for gold : P I think I need to pay more attention to the diplomacy, atm all I'm trying to do is get people to trade with me, and nobody will T_T they're all indifferent to me and for some reason will not trade, and I'm holding one of the naval trade routes as well, any idea what it could be?
I got the hattori to trade with me and we had an alliance but they just betrayed me -.- They're the strongest clan in my game atm with like 11 provinces against my 6 so I'm in trouble now ahaha
Is your daimyo meant to stay at your capital and work on the family? lol because I'm getting no children as I'm using him as my main general
Its pretty funny though to nearly wipe out clans until they demand a peace treaty. Since when they offer it they are so desparate they will offer you all their gold if you demand it. So simply demand their whole treasury and then declare war on them and slaughter them. Ezpz money and one less clan to deal with.
On March 24 2011 08:54 keit wrote: Yeah this game sucks for sure, trying to do battles in real time now. Thing is my bowmen wont fucking work, half of them turn the wrong way mid battle and just stare into the horizon. The rest im lucky if I get one volley off before the whole enemy is at my archers. Must be the slowest reloaders ever, they fire once and it takes like 2-3 hours before they reload.
Also, you can not wait for the enemy to attack you? I positioned my archers in a great line formation to wait until the enemy attacked me. Thing is though the enemy never attacked, didnt move a fucking muscle, was on 3x and then the battle ended with timelimit with 0 casualties for neither side.
just because you don't know how to control your units doesn't mean the game sucks
the UI is fairly simple and easy to learn and you can easy make them turn any direction with the press of a button so when your archers are facing the wrong way, that isn't them not working it's you not positioning them correctly. you can always right-click drag any unit (or group of units) to create their formation or use some of these hotkeys
' forward / backwards ; turn right l turn left
also, it's normal to only get about 2 volleys off if an infantry charges straight at your line. once you get them off, retreat your archers behind your infantry (common tactic) so they can continue to be of use rather than have them sit in melee and get charged by infantry (or cavalry) and routed
and if you choose to start a battle on the campaign map, the enemy won't charge you unless they have the advantage. if you happened to start a battle, you have the burden of being on the offense.
if they started a battle, they will 99.99% of the time be the ones to attack (also, you should set battle time limit to 20 minutes rather than one hour, you'll almost never need more than 20 minutes in a 1v1)
one thing you can do even if you do go on the offense though (if you have ranged superiority) is advance your entire army within archer range and just pelt on them, they'll eventually launch a full charge even if you were the one to initiate the battle on the campaign map (which makes sense, who wants to just sit there and get pounded by hundreds of arrows?)
On March 24 2011 08:10 mordk wrote: I just got Shogun 2 but I can't get it to work. As soon as I fire it up, before the game even loads, I get a BSOD and my PC resets. I have a PC good enough to run the game. From what I've read up to now it's a hardware issue which some people have fixed by updating drivers. I've already updated video drivers and now I'm doing the same with sound drivers. Next step would be BIOS, however, that scares me like hell hahahah, I'm a real noob at this.
My MB is a MS-7255 P4M9002-L by MSI. How do I update the BIOS??
I have the same problem.... the only "method" I use is to do it 10 times... once in a while I can get into the game without the auto reboot.
I guess we have to reinstall window if we really want to solve this.
On March 24 2011 09:51 keit wrote: Its pretty funny though to nearly wipe out clans until they demand a peace treaty. Since when they offer it they are so desparate they will offer you all their gold if you demand it. So simply demand their whole treasury and then declare war on them and slaughter them. Ezpz money and one less clan to deal with.
Nice, I'm going to do this.
I bought Shogun 2 yesterday and I am very, very happy with the purchase.
On March 24 2011 09:51 keit wrote: Its pretty funny though to nearly wipe out clans until they demand a peace treaty. Since when they offer it they are so desparate they will offer you all their gold if you demand it. So simply demand their whole treasury and then declare war on them and slaughter them. Ezpz money and one less clan to deal with.
Nice, I'm going to do this.
I bought Shogun 2 yesterday and I am very, very happy with the purchase.
don't do it... you get really bad rep and nobody will ally you or trade with you. You will need to keep vassals in later stages of the game to trade with them and having a daimyo with great honor helps in preventing them from revolting.
Been playing some of the multiplayer co-op campaign with a friend of mine. All i can say is that CA have done a great job with this mode, it is like playing the singleplayer campaign but 10x better
On March 24 2011 08:49 stfn wrote: Another trick is to take advantage of the negotiations early on to maximize your later macro. I convinced a few factions to let me bang their daughter for a few hundred gold.
After that they were pretty susceptible to my charm at Very Friendly. So I opened my borders to them for 20 turns for a few more hundred on turn 1. Made about 1.5k off 3 factions and purchased all important upgrades. (Don't get roads early on because it allows enemy troops to march to your castle much faster.) About 20 turns later, they renew this contract for 3-4k.
Lots of haters hate and declare war, so just defend that shit by crushing their army. Make sure you exterminate the stragglers. After your province is clear from outside invaders, offer a peace treaty, trade agreement, and charge them.
Every new year I look for new princesses to bang. When my neighbors get conquered, I offer new contracts to allow military into my base for some cash money. $_$
This was done on Legendary.
The military access AI is the most exploitable part of the game, feels like cheating. The AI values military access into your lands so obscenely high that you can get anything you want out of them, making it trivial to exploit it for huge amounts of money in the early game.
Or, shatter any alliances at the start by having the AI team up on each other while you sweep up. No cost to yourself other than not being able to turn your starting province into BGH through the mass selling of military access. Hopefully they patch it to be less ludicrously desirable to the AI, turns diplomacy/economy into a joke.
Just saw the ninja failure videos of Shogun 2 and god, they suck. Why would they screw them up this much despite them being one of the best parts of the original Shogun
On March 24 2011 18:22 Lucumo wrote: Just saw the ninja failure videos of Shogun 2 and god, they suck. Why would they screw them up this much despite them being one of the best parts of the original Shogun
Well they could've hired a decent CGI team for one, not something that looks like what a college student can do in his spare time lol.
On March 24 2011 18:22 Lucumo wrote: Just saw the ninja failure videos of Shogun 2 and god, they suck. Why would they screw them up this much despite them being one of the best parts of the original Shogun
Well they could've hired a decent CGI team for one, not something that looks like what a college student can do in his spare time lol.
No, I don't mean that. I'm talking about the style. Why did they make the ninja seem like a complete retard when he fails? Honestly -.- And also, where is the blood?
On March 24 2011 18:22 Lucumo wrote: Just saw the ninja failure videos of Shogun 2 and god, they suck. Why would they screw them up this much despite them being one of the best parts of the original Shogun
Well they could've hired a decent CGI team for one, not something that looks like what a college student can do in his spare time lol.
No, I don't mean that. I'm talking about the style. Why did they make the ninja seem like a complete retard when he fails? Honestly -.- And also, where is the blood?
Your nostalgia goggles are foggy. The old assassination videos are just as cheesy.
The CGI however, is mentioned in reviews as being extremely terrible so if you don't notice it you can't have kept up on the progress in the recent years, so maybe you'll need to get back under your bridge.
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