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Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
March 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#321
On March 23 2011 07:04 keit wrote:
on normal

but I guess I just didnt level enough generals, just mainly focused on leveling one general, so the rest of em were like 2 stars.

also didnt do a single realtime battle, just autoresolved that shit. the battles are so boring lol

That's probably why you lost. If you're good at the game, you can win even the most disadvantaged battles with good enough playing.
curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
March 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#322
ahahaha pro tip - When uncontestedly taking a castle, like a decent sized army of yours versus just the samurai retainers, leave your general outside -.-
I made him climb the walls to join in on the slaughter and 6 of his bodyguard fell to their death lol, and now it takes so long for them to replenish! Do they replenish faster whilst garrisoned?

Oh and tiegrr, do you have any tips for winning disadvantaged battles? I won one decently before, was 900 v 1300 and I got attacked in the field, so I put all my army on a hill, with my archers at the front to shoot as the enemy charged up, and had a samurai hidden in the trees that flanked and broke a unit very well, that turned out okay! I lost 300 and the enemy lost 1100 ^_^
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 23 2011 00:53 GMT
#323
lol, who tells a General to climb walls.
靈魂交響曲
Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
March 23 2011 00:54 GMT
#324
^LOL
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
March 23 2011 01:06 GMT
#325
On March 23 2011 09:34 curreh wrote:
ahahaha pro tip - When uncontestedly taking a castle, like a decent sized army of yours versus just the samurai retainers, leave your general outside -.-
I made him climb the walls to join in on the slaughter and 6 of his bodyguard fell to their death lol, and now it takes so long for them to replenish! Do they replenish faster whilst garrisoned?

Oh and tiegrr, do you have any tips for winning disadvantaged battles? I won one decently before, was 900 v 1300 and I got attacked in the field, so I put all my army on a hill, with my archers at the front to shoot as the enemy charged up, and had a samurai hidden in the trees that flanked and broke a unit very well, that turned out okay! I lost 300 and the enemy lost 1100 ^_^


Winning disadvantaged battles is all about breaking morale, so the old TW trick of camping at the top of the highest hill and then flanking with whatever powerful cavalry/infantry into their rear/sides as the enemy units suffer from tired or better is the way to go. Crushing either the left or right flank allows you to envelop and apply pressure down the thin line of remaining enemy battle line; routs will ensue really quickly once you turn a single flank.

Downhill charge bonus is huge as well, especially potent against tired troops going uphill.

Sniping generals with some shock cavalry is massive if you can swing it, any big engagement is an auto win if you have a general and he doesn't...couple that with even a small cavalry charge from the rear or side and its automatic rout

Point is, killing units is not what you want to do, breaking morale is how you win battles
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
March 23 2011 02:24 GMT
#326
On March 23 2011 07:04 keit wrote:
on normal

but I guess I just didnt level enough generals, just mainly focused on leveling one general, so the rest of em were like 2 stars.

also didnt do a single realtime battle, just autoresolved that shit. the battles are so boring lol


lol autoresolve in TW games has always been major fail...no point in even playing if you're gonna autoresolve. In real-time you could always win even with like 200 men vs 1000+ with good flanking and terrain use. I've won tons of battles in Rome outnumbered 10 or 20 to 1. But you can lose autoresolve even when you have like 2:1 3:1 advantage -_-
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 04:52:35
March 23 2011 04:49 GMT
#327
on normal it's pretty safe to autoresolve any battle that you've got at least a 65-75% chance of winning

granted you can easily cause more damage with less losses by playing out each individual battle. I personally only fight out battles that I know I will either lose through autoresolve, or not win as decisively through autoresolve as I need to

played through shimazu and chokosabe on normal and never came across serious risk of losing and I'm currently on a date campaign

once you get that full stack 6-star general he can pretty much autoresolve-victory any army he comes across and replinish within a turn or two given good infrastructure/tech and once you get 2-3 stacks of those you can't lose

I don't think battles are boring, but it's more of a "choose which battles to fight" type of thing because it's not my style to fight out each and every battle you come across in the campaign (at least on normal difficulty when I can get away with shortcuts)

from my understanding you really have to fight out every battle on very hard//legendary though (which makes sense)
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 23 2011 05:22 GMT
#328
Have been downloading for 4 hours... 15% to go...aaahhhh

but its partly goin slow cause im playing LoL while i wait. ( i know LoL is crap..but its free. I like HoN and Dota both more, but my WC3 is being shitty and i get tired of every match gettin ruined in the first 5 mins)
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#329
holy crap, is this game adicting!

played for 5h straight yesterday.


and about auto resolve, i think you should only do it when killing small troops with a big army. I'm not even good in TW, but i always manage to win battles with 2-1 disadvantage
BW is back
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
March 23 2011 19:26 GMT
#330
i think you should just play multiplayer. Its amazing.

Its a bit of a shame my winloss dropped to 74%
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
March 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#331
Almost finished my first Long Legendary campaign as shimazu, definately the easiest clan in legendary.

Has anyone had any success with tokugawa on legendary? I can't make it past like turn 10... you get ganged so hard.
England will fight to the last American
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 23 2011 19:53 GMT
#332
I just had a 5 star general run away during a battle I was clearly winning, making me rage quit the entire campaign. He was my commissioner of warfare and the brother to my Daimyo. I have never felt so betrayed in my life.

It was like a 60/40 fight for the other guy cause he had 2 stacks of cavalry but I annihilated them with my yari then my yari and samurai engaged his infantry and I was dominating them so I sent in my general on foot just to speed it up a little. Their general joins in mounted and dies, they all rout and I just right click the whole stack to the archers when I hear "one of your units is running away!" or whatever the voice yells out, and it was my fucking general. He completely disappeared from my unit tab. I was confused but clearly still going to win by numerical advantage

My bow samurai and ashirugi archers ran out of ammo so I had like 4 stacks of guys marching on a stack of ashirugi archers and bow samurai that were left, they shoot one more volley at my guys, and my entire army routs. To fucking archers.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#333
On March 23 2011 09:34 curreh wrote:
ahahaha pro tip - When uncontestedly taking a castle, like a decent sized army of yours versus just the samurai retainers, leave your general outside -.-
I made him climb the walls to join in on the slaughter and 6 of his bodyguard fell to their death lol, and now it takes so long for them to replenish! Do they replenish faster whilst garrisoned?

Oh and tiegrr, do you have any tips for winning disadvantaged battles? I won one decently before, was 900 v 1300 and I got attacked in the field, so I put all my army on a hill, with my archers at the front to shoot as the enemy charged up, and had a samurai hidden in the trees that flanked and broke a unit very well, that turned out okay! I lost 300 and the enemy lost 1100 ^_^



That's what makes Japan so much better than Europe for this type of game. Japan has so many mountains and rivers and choke points were properly positioning armies can get you a huge advantage while defending. It's not just a hill, forests provide cover against archers and makes infantry more effective against cavalry. A forested hill is the ideal hiding spot.

And don't forget bridge battles.

For replenishment, there are certain buildings that add to it when you are in that province. Also, generals get a bonus on some traits.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 20:52:16
March 23 2011 20:47 GMT
#334
On March 24 2011 04:53 floor exercise wrote:
I just had a 5 star general run away during a battle I was clearly winning, making me rage quit the entire campaign. He was my commissioner of warfare and the brother to my Daimyo. I have never felt so betrayed in my life.

It was like a 60/40 fight for the other guy cause he had 2 stacks of cavalry but I annihilated them with my yari then my yari and samurai engaged his infantry and I was dominating them so I sent in my general on foot just to speed it up a little. Their general joins in mounted and dies, they all rout and I just right click the whole stack to the archers when I hear "one of your units is running away!" or whatever the voice yells out, and it was my fucking general. He completely disappeared from my unit tab. I was confused but clearly still going to win by numerical advantage

My bow samurai and ashirugi archers ran out of ammo so I had like 4 stacks of guys marching on a stack of ashirugi archers and bow samurai that were left, they shoot one more volley at my guys, and my entire army routs. To fucking archers.


LOL. I goddamn hate when that happens. Let me share my own experience:
Me, as the glorious Lord of England, decide to catch the scottish scum outside their castle walls. My army consists of: 6 units of longbowmen, 2 armoured kinghts cavalry, 2 pesants (to absord enemy charge) and 4 units of armoured sargeants as my shock troops. + General
I catch right in the smack middle of the map: 6 scottish milita rubble, 4 militia spearmen, 2 irish kerns and 3 enemy generals.

I took position on a mountain, aiming to boost the already sick sick range of my longbowmen, trying to decimate my enemy's army even before I have to engage in melee.

They slowly advance. I ready my cavalry for a both sided flank, everything looks perfect. The enemy comes under fire from my bowmen and breaks into a run (charging me) and a loose formation. After 2 voleys from my longbowmen, my whole fucking army routes. Even before the peasants/knights/spearmen get to clash everything starts running away. W T F.

+ Show Spoiler +
I love how the jap guy scream: A SHAMEFUL DISPLAY, when your army routes xD. I always laugh so damn hard when I hear it.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
March 23 2011 21:18 GMT
#335
so i was new to this game. and fuck man tutorial is like so long to learn everything. i wanted to kill myself. i just finish the tutorial and finally starting the game.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:36:07
March 23 2011 22:16 GMT
#336
I screwed up my Mori campaign on VH when I was unaware of the "Grandiose delusions" loyalty modifier. Since I only start with an the daimyo and the heir, after I wiped out the Amako clan in the north, my heir's loyalty dropped to 1. Too late with the metsuke and next turn an event comes up where I have to either force the heir to commit seppuku or give him another chance.

Of course not realising the effects our that, I choose to give him another chance... My damiyo's honour suffers, which in turn causes my overall clan happiness to dip... And not to mention one of the base modifers for loyalty is also your damiyo's honour.

Had to wait at least 4 years for the next child to come of age, since hiring generals is a rarity or trying to obtain a general using the "man of the hour" type tricks.

edit: Not as easy compared to M2TW SS6.3
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
March 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#337
Just bought this game, it looks great on my computer. This is my first Total War game, so the battle mechanics took a while to get used to, but overall I really like them.

Humorously frustrating moment, I buy a monk (Uesugi clan) and send him out to sabotage the enemy army that just entered my territory, and he get discovered and killed immediately. On his very first mission. Stupid monk.....
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spicykorean
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
March 23 2011 22:51 GMT
#338
As it is with army units, it's the same with agents.

Ninja > Monk > Metsuke > Ninja

If you feel that you need more generals, engage in battles without a daimyo or general and chances are that the game will give you the chance of promoting a brave soldier into a general. Don't use the autoresolve option without a general as your chance of losing is higher, so you'll have to play out the battle.
do or do not. there is no try.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
March 23 2011 22:53 GMT
#339
So that's how you get more generals? Tricky.... thanks for the tip
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#340
I just got Shogun 2 but I can't get it to work. As soon as I fire it up, before the game even loads, I get a BSOD and my PC resets. I have a PC good enough to run the game. From what I've read up to now it's a hardware issue which some people have fixed by updating drivers. I've already updated video drivers and now I'm doing the same with sound drivers. Next step would be BIOS, however, that scares me like hell hahahah, I'm a real noob at this.

My MB is a MS-7255 P4M9002-L by MSI. How do I update the BIOS??
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