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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
February 17 2011 05:45 GMT
#1641
lol I thought I was the only one wishing the Jazz would constantly lose after firing Sloan.
Woo Jung Ho
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
February 17 2011 05:47 GMT
#1642
On February 17 2011 14:44 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:15 BlueRoyaL wrote:
someone explain to me how the lakers lost to the cavs. AHAHAHA!

funny thing is cavs beat boston earlier in the season too, pretty funny stuff.
just goes to show that you still have to try against the worst teams to beat them, it's definitely an effort game


I think you just answered how the Lakers lost in your post. The effort for the Lakers just hasn't been there lately (specially Gasol among others). But with this loss it is official, the Lakers will win it all again this year! LA QQ'ers are going to be on their asses the rest of the way after this.



30-20 and no effort? Kobe just shoots them out of games some times, and its mid season defense without one of their main wing defenders..
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 17 2011 06:13 GMT
#1643
On February 17 2011 14:47 Holcan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 14:44 MassHysteria wrote:
On February 17 2011 12:15 BlueRoyaL wrote:
someone explain to me how the lakers lost to the cavs. AHAHAHA!

funny thing is cavs beat boston earlier in the season too, pretty funny stuff.
just goes to show that you still have to try against the worst teams to beat them, it's definitely an effort game


I think you just answered how the Lakers lost in your post. The effort for the Lakers just hasn't been there lately (specially Gasol among others). But with this loss it is official, the Lakers will win it all again this year! LA QQ'ers are going to be on their asses the rest of the way after this.



30-20 and no effort? Kobe just shoots them out of games some times, and its mid season defense without one of their main wing defenders..


he played 41 minutes with Hickson and Jamison guarding him most of the time (not big guys), I would expect him to get these numbers. Besides I wasn't really saying just this game but last few games. Gasol's effort problem has mostly been on defense and rebounding by the way, not to say it is all on him, but that is where Lakers have been lacking. Barnes coming back will be a plus definitely.

I wasn't trying to say it was a bad loss...I was mostly saying they aren't running full throttle. Regardless, most fans here in LA all exaggerate losses like this and won't let them off the hook. As for me, it made me feel much better about the playoffs for them, as ridiculous as that sounds.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 17 2011 08:02 GMT
#1644
Can somebody explain to me why Kobe still has such a high usage rate (34% remember the star chart) when he has decent to good teammates? He's leading the lead in usage rate, close to Dwayne Wade levels (whose teammates would lose to D leaguers) last season. Why can't he be more like Tim Duncan or Nash?

Gasol should have more shot attempts, and Bynum+Gasol+Odom should have twice as many as Kobe combined.
Path
Profile Joined September 2010
United States145 Posts
February 17 2011 08:25 GMT
#1645
On February 17 2011 14:45 iLoveKT wrote:
lol I thought I was the only one wishing the Jazz would constantly lose after firing Sloan.


I thought he resigned?
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
February 17 2011 09:32 GMT
#1646
Who would think that Lakers are a bunch of sissies?
Disi gazda
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
February 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#1647
lol at lakers.
karma's a bitch eh?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
February 17 2011 11:09 GMT
#1648
On February 17 2011 17:02 igotmyown wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why Kobe still has such a high usage rate (34% remember the star chart) when he has decent to good teammates? He's leading the lead in usage rate, close to Dwayne Wade levels (whose teammates would lose to D leaguers) last season. Why can't he be more like Tim Duncan or Nash?

Gasol should have more shot attempts, and Bynum+Gasol+Odom should have twice as many as Kobe combined.

So true, but at the same time people pay to just see Kobe play. Winning is important, but not as important as Kobe getting hot and tearing it up.
Lakers all about that $$$$$
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
February 17 2011 12:52 GMT
#1649
I wish my Bucks would accept their fate (aka tank mode) and let Bogut get surgery on his arm. It's painful watching him play one handed.

How you do guys following shitty teams cope towards the end of the year when your team is basically gone. It sucks =/

And the Bucks don't even have any great young talent to look forward to. Stuck with Salmons, Maggette and Gooden for at least 3 more years...
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 13:02:46
February 17 2011 13:01 GMT
#1650
productive offseason for the bucks. never miss a chance to lock up gooden and salmons for 5 years / 70 mil, and when you can sign a player for 3yrs / 30mil to ride the bench you know you've capped it off

and it goes with saying that young money sucks
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
February 18 2011 04:22 GMT
#1651
yo guys, drose is THE MAN!! once noah gets back in, they are gonna crush all in their path MUHAHAHA (last part was a joke, but i hope so)
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 18 2011 04:32 GMT
#1652
Is Bogut still playing with one arm? He's been kind of a beast either way.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 18 2011 05:01 GMT
#1653
On February 17 2011 17:02 igotmyown wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why Kobe still has such a high usage rate (34% remember the star chart) when he has decent to good teammates? He's leading the lead in usage rate, close to Dwayne Wade levels (whose teammates would lose to D leaguers) last season. Why can't he be more like Tim Duncan or Nash?

Gasol should have more shot attempts, and Bynum+Gasol+Odom should have twice as many as Kobe combined.


Eh, there was a really good article on usage rates at the Lakers blog Silver Screen and Roll on the Celtics-Lakers game, but personally I feel it's more like neither Duncan or Nash play in a complicated system like Jackson's/Winter's triangle and their personnel aren't comfortable with it most of the time (still).

I remember reading SSnR last year during the playoffs where they commented outside of Kobe, Pau, and sometimes Fisher, the rest of the Lakers were lost as fuck when it came to running it (aka they're too dumb). That does seem very true though at the time and the ball just seems more often than not end up in Kobe's hands and the rest of team seem perfectly content with that.
Get it by your hands...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 18 2011 08:01 GMT
#1654
The Spurs play a notoriously complicated offense, with a lot of sets, that takes a long time for their newer players to learn, which is why Popovich will run most of it with veterans. That's why Richard Jefferson was so lost last year, he was used to creating his shot on his own when he's supposed to be cutting.

Except for the first quarter, the lakers offense doesn't look much like the triangle. When the starters sub out, the remaining starter usually just plays isolations or pick and rolls, occasionally dishing it to an open man. In the 4th quarter near the end, they tend to abandon the triangle and let Kobe shoot.

If it were a triangle, almost all the sets should start and reset with passing it to Gasol in the post. When it's Kobe leaning over with the ball on the perimeter, it's not the triangle.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 18 2011 14:24 GMT
#1655
Richard Jefferson has almost the exact same line as last year except he makes more 3s. If he's doing better it's certainly not showing up in the stat box.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 18 2011 17:03 GMT
#1656
He's far better but the stats don't show it. Last year he was dreadful.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
February 18 2011 17:50 GMT
#1657
Sorry Ace, but how does one get better without it showing on stat sheet?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#1658
stop trolling
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
February 18 2011 19:31 GMT
#1659
On February 19 2011 02:50 BalliSLife wrote:
Sorry Ace, but how does one get better without it showing on stat sheet?


I think there's plenty of evidence that a box score doesn't show everything about a player's performance. As for RJ, he's playing a lot better this season than last, and it's pretty clear if you watched him play then and now. His offense comes a lot easier than it did, and he just looks a lot more comfortable overall.

For what's it's worth statistics-wise, his eFG%, TS%, and Ortg are all up significantly this season from last, while his Usage has gone down. That's consistent with what I observed of RJ with the Spurs in that he was a player who was used to having the ball in his hands and being a significant part of the offense, while what the Spurs needed, and what he is now, is a role player who plays solid defense and who can provide efficient offense to keep defenses honest and provide spacing for Parker, Manu and Duncan.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 18 2011 21:20 GMT
#1660
Richard Jefferson's FG% is up like 020 WHILE taking 1.7 more 3's, a naturally lower percentage shot. He's only averaged 9 shot attempts per game, so he's taking 20% more threes and ending up with a significantly higher fg%.

Now he has the 7th best eFG% in the nba, 11th TS%, the only shooters ahead of him are Ray Allen, Landry Fields, and Afflalo.
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