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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13012 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On February 08 2011 21:17 RowdierBob wrote: Can someone please explain why Kevin Love is in the AS game over Aldridge..? It just baffles me. Probably for putting up the best rebounding numbers the league has seen in a very long time. I completely agree with you, Aldridge deserves to go, but over Pau instead of over Love, imo. But alas, its in LA, so Pau of course will get to go. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On February 08 2011 21:17 RowdierBob wrote: Can someone please explain why Kevin Love is in the AS game over Aldridge..? It just baffles me. what? why would you choose aldridge over love? love has gotten a double double every single game since nov 19. http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4391/gamelog;_ylt=AmO9hX9flANpwkYLA7U5D62RRwU6 | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
 good news for a blazers fan. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 09 2011 04:58 Holcan wrote: Probably for putting up the best rebounding numbers the league has seen in a very long time. I completely agree with you, Aldridge deserves to go, but over Pau instead of over Love, imo. But alas, its in LA, so Pau of course will get to go. more like Aldridge over Duncan makes sense. Rumors of Denver and Lakers talking about a Melo for Bynum swap. I don't think Denver could be this dumb but you never know. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 09 2011 07:41 Ace wrote: more like Aldridge over Duncan makes sense. Rumors of Denver and Lakers talking about a Melo for Bynum swap. I don't think Denver could be this dumb but you never know. You mean Lakers could be this dumb right? Melo for Bynum works for Denver a lot more than LA. Bynum is still young and still fairly sought after by some teams needing an interior presence. Again, who's to say that he won't stay healthy for the rest of his career. For the Lakers, it's a slight offensive upgrade (in light of the other players, not a straight Bynum versus Melo) for a significant defensive downgrade. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On February 09 2011 07:41 Ace wrote:Melo for Bynum swap. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14896 Posts
On February 08 2011 08:27 city42 wrote: I don't really want to get into the ballhog debate, but I'm wondering how you arrived at those numbers. I got 4.32 for MJ and 4.10 for Kobe. If you look at FGM/AST, Jordan has a 2.15 to Kobe's 1.87, so he was certainly making a good amount of those shots. er, they said in the article that they count a FTA as 0.44 FGA, so I added those in as well rather than just pure FGA to assists. aka, (FGA per gane + 0.44*FTA per game) / APG At least that's how I interpreted his article, he didn't put in any raw number so meh | ||
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Sadist
United States7242 Posts
On February 09 2011 07:58 Judicator wrote: You mean Lakers could be this dumb right? Melo for Bynum works for Denver a lot more than LA. Bynum is still young and still fairly sought after by some teams needing an interior presence. Again, who's to say that he won't stay healthy for the rest of his career. For the Lakers, it's a slight offensive upgrade (in light of the other players, not a straight Bynum versus Melo) for a significant defensive downgrade. Overrating Bynum. The lakers should do it in a heartbeat if melo agrees to an extension. If he doesnt then ya youd have a point. Denver would be fucking retarded to do this if melo would sign an extension in LA | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On February 08 2011 21:17 RowdierBob wrote: Can someone please explain why Kevin Love is in the AS game over Aldridge..? It just baffles me. Not only is Love averaging 20/15, which would be the first time that's been done since Moses Malone in the '82-'83 season, he's shooting 43.4% from three-point range and averages a beastly 4.8 offensive boards per game. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
LAL/DEN trade is clearly just a threat to NYK, another big market offering talent means that anthonys worth wont deteriorate the closer it gets to a deadline. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 09 2011 07:58 Judicator wrote: You mean Lakers could be this dumb right? Melo for Bynum works for Denver a lot more than LA. Bynum is still young and still fairly sought after by some teams needing an interior presence. Again, who's to say that he won't stay healthy for the rest of his career. For the Lakers, it's a slight offensive upgrade (in light of the other players, not a straight Bynum versus Melo) for a significant defensive downgrade. well, both. I just don't see how this trade helps either team and it's worse for the Lakers. As much as I think Bynum is just a glorified role player no Bynum = getting beat down by Boston if that match up happens again. A match up of wings vs San Antonio or Miami is also a terrible position to be in. On February 09 2011 07:50 Ferrose wrote: I can't believe that there is a bunch of LeBron for MVP talk. -_- Why not? Between Lebron and Wade no one is even close. Rose is so overhyped it's ridiculous, Durant isn't having an MVP year, Dwight just gets bad press, and Dirk should get it but he won't. Point is the problem with MVP voting is that it's a publicity thing. There aren't a lot of people that know what they are talking about when it comes to statistics, viewing games in the larger picture frame or just having basic basketball knowledge in general. Most of these people tend to be asshat sports writers that are biased to begin with and there is the problem in a nutshell. The award would mean more if the Coaches and Players actually voted. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13012 Posts
On February 09 2011 08:14 A3iL3r0n wrote: Not only is Love averaging 20/15, which would be the first time that's been done since Moses Malone in the '82-'83 season, he's shooting 43.4% from three-point range and averages a beastly 4.8 offensive boards per game. I've watched him play quite a bit and he's overrated (IMO). That's not to say he isn't a good player -- he obv is -- but he's overrated by so many people because of his somewhat deceiving stat lines. Have you watched him defend? He has terrible lateral movement and barely contests shots a lot of the time to get himself into position for rebounding. I like Kevin Love, but he's a typical example IMO of how box scores can overrate some players. He's basically Andrea Bargnani + rebounding; he's a stats whore. And you really want to compare Kevin Love on the 2010/11 T.Wolves to Moses Malone on the 1983 Championship winning 76ers? Seriously, come on... They're SO far apart it isn't even funny. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On February 09 2011 08:00 KOFgokuon wrote: er, they said in the article that they count a FTA as 0.44 FGA, so I added those in as well rather than just pure FGA to assists. aka, (FGA per gane + 0.44*FTA per game) / APG At least that's how I interpreted his article, he didn't put in any raw number so meh The actual rate they were using was shot attempts per assist, and you wrote "FGA/assist," which is different. FGA/assist would only incorporate field goals, which is what I calculated to get those numbers. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 09 2011 08:47 RowdierBob wrote: I've watched him play quite a bit and he's overrated (IMO). That's not to say he isn't a good player -- he obv is -- but he's overrated by so many people because of his somewhat deceiving stat lines. Have you watched him defend? He has terrible lateral movement and barely contests shots a lot of the time to get himself into position for rebounding. I like Kevin Love, but he's a typical example IMO of how box scores can overrate some players. He's basically Andrea Bargnani + rebounding; he's a stats whore. And you really want to compare Kevin Love on the 2010/11 T.Wolves to Moses Malone on the 1983 Championship winning 76ers? Seriously, come on... They're SO far apart it isn't even funny. put Moses Malone on this T-Wolves team and they barely win any more games. The team is really that bad. Can't call K-Love a stat whore when the only other option after Beasley is Ridnour and Darko. Context matters On February 09 2011 08:50 city42 wrote: Also, am I the only one who thinks that Z-Bo is more deserving of an all-star spot than Aldridge? Hard to tell since no one really knows if Aldridge developed this well naturally (I think he did) or if it's due to Portland having to use him as the #1 option. That said Z-Bo has always had a bad rep which hurts his chances no matter how good he is playing. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13012 Posts
Mo Malone was an outstanding defender as well as rebounder and scorer. As I've said before, Kevin Love is a sub-par defensive player on a sub-par team. He sacrifices proper defending for rebounding position so many times it isn't funny. Not to mention his rotations are awful. From the games I've watched on him, he's clearly more concerned about rebounding then playing proper defense. But look, I don't want to paint myself as a Kevin Love hater. He's a hugely efficient scorer and his offensive rebounding ability is a real asset. I just think there are far more deserving players for that reserve spot. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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