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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 31 2015 00:52 GMT
#12241
anyone watch the World Champ finals? That last game was crazy. Almost thought Owen would stabilize and win.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
August 31 2015 00:54 GMT
#12242
incredible run by Seth. the Ugin almost turned the game around. also the gideon is looks really really good.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 31 2015 14:29 GMT
#12243
On August 30 2015 14:41 LennX wrote:
Oh my FULL ART DUAL LANDS

Normal versions:



Extended verisons:


Both sets of art looks good.

The 2nd version actually looks fucking awful as a card though regardless of art. Ah well.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
August 31 2015 17:10 GMT
#12244
I don't understand why they label it "full art" when it's not full art.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
August 31 2015 17:19 GMT
#12245
Presumably because the art is actually full size, the text box isn't solid. You can see the art through it.

Yeah, it's still kinda weird.
~
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 31 2015 17:22 GMT
#12246
One would assume they labelled them "full art duals" because they decided that "full art duals" would be exciting and a selling point, regardless of how well they actually pulled off full art duals (veeeery poorly, from that image)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 01 2015 00:01 GMT
#12247
Next set announced.



@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
September 01 2015 00:38 GMT
#12248
Allright guys I'm back for a bit more sideboarding advice for my legacy burn deck.

This time, I'm wondering about Omnitell. Just lost in a local event top 8 to it (ended up 4th). I had what I thought were pretty solid hands (goblin guide + eidolon first game, Eidolon with REB to protect him second), but couldn't get there. Lost to double force of will on the eidolon and REB second game, so maybe some bad luck there, but still that fucking combo seems quick.

I run typical burn, lavamancers over swiftspears because I operate in a creature-heavy meta. My sideboard looks something like this.
2 vexing shushers
2 pyrostatic pillars
2 sulfuric vortex
3 Red elemental blasts
3 Smash to smithereens
3 Ensnaring bridge

Against Omnitell, I sideboard out my prices and searing blazes for the pillars, REBs, and bridges. I also trade out my singleton mainboard vortex for a shusher, because vortex is useless in that match-up.

What are some good recommendations/tips for the match-up that folks might have? It seems to mostly be about speed, and slamming a pillar/eidolon asap. But the wish package is pretty brutal to play against :/
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 01 2015 01:47 GMT
#12249
Where is Garruk and why isnt he hunting Eldrazi with his axe
Sup.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
September 01 2015 03:41 GMT
#12250
garruk is dealing with being cursed and stuff right now
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 01 2015 04:07 GMT
#12251
What I want to know is where the hell is Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin in all this? Supposedly after KTK they were supposed to go back to Zendikar and try to re-seal the Eldrazi, but they're nowhere to be seen in the promo artwork and the other set seems to indicate we're gonna get another Chandra and Jace to go with the Nissa and Gideon from this set. And what about fucking Kiora? She's supposed to be there too...
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
September 01 2015 05:32 GMT
#12252
Kiora is on Zendikar
[image loading]

I'm guessing the other three and maybe Sarkhan / Narset will be around in the next coming blocks.
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dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 01 2015 05:37 GMT
#12253
On September 01 2015 13:07 deth2munkies wrote:
What I want to know is where the hell is Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin in all this? Supposedly after KTK they were supposed to go back to Zendikar and try to re-seal the Eldrazi, but they're nowhere to be seen in the promo artwork and the other set seems to indicate we're gonna get another Chandra and Jace to go with the Nissa and Gideon from this set. And what about fucking Kiora? She's supposed to be there too...

It would be sick if we got like 8 planeswalkers from Zendikar
Sup.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 01 2015 05:44 GMT
#12254
On September 01 2015 14:37 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 13:07 deth2munkies wrote:
What I want to know is where the hell is Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin in all this? Supposedly after KTK they were supposed to go back to Zendikar and try to re-seal the Eldrazi, but they're nowhere to be seen in the promo artwork and the other set seems to indicate we're gonna get another Chandra and Jace to go with the Nissa and Gideon from this set. And what about fucking Kiora? She's supposed to be there too...

It would be sick if we got like 8 planeswalkers from Zendikar


We might get 8 planeswalkers in the story, but we won't get 8 cards. Development gets tetchy about planeswalker numbers. Five is just the default planeswalker number though, so we could possibly get 6.
Naracs_Duc
Profile Joined August 2015
746 Posts
September 01 2015 19:13 GMT
#12255
On September 01 2015 14:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 14:37 dudeman001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 13:07 deth2munkies wrote:
What I want to know is where the hell is Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin in all this? Supposedly after KTK they were supposed to go back to Zendikar and try to re-seal the Eldrazi, but they're nowhere to be seen in the promo artwork and the other set seems to indicate we're gonna get another Chandra and Jace to go with the Nissa and Gideon from this set. And what about fucking Kiora? She's supposed to be there too...

It would be sick if we got like 8 planeswalkers from Zendikar


We might get 8 planeswalkers in the story, but we won't get 8 cards. Development gets tetchy about planeswalker numbers. Five is just the default planeswalker number though, so we could possibly get 6.


I actually wish they did this more often to be able to introduce other walkers without making the "core" planeswalkers disappear. For example, Ajani being in different spells even whne Gideon is the main one they are pushing for white. Or Garruk being the black one for a time even when Lili is still in cards. Etc...
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 03 2015 17:50 GMT
#12256
Sorins been my main man ever since playing BW Tokens in Modern lol. The new shocklands for BFZ look absolutely gorgeous also.

Happened to me in Modern weekly last night, but jesus. Nothing in Magic infuriates me more than when a guy is playing his entrie deck in various languages and when I ask him what a particular card does, he goes "Do I really have to tell you/you seriously don't know?" (I never fought GW Aura's before).
Forever Young
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1256 Posts
September 04 2015 02:23 GMT
#12257
Is it just me, or do non-full-art versions of the new lands look better?
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 04 2015 23:11 GMT
#12258
Alright folks

Looking to get more into Standard once Theros rotates out (since I started very late in the Theros block really paying attention to stuff, I've played more table top Magic for a number of years)

I could write a list of stuff I have if needed but figured I'd ask if there are any solid looking R/B shells going into this Zendikar/Tarkir Standard that anyone has discovered? Otherwise just kinda wondering what people are playing these days as I haven't really kept up with the scene over the past 6 months or so....

Thoughts? If there's a better place to ask this let me know~
In Inca we trust
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 04 2015 23:28 GMT
#12259
R/B dragons is a thing I think.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 04 2015 23:43 GMT
#12260
I have a FNM/funzies standard deck, it's shit tier at best but it's a mono-black hand destruction that makes use of Waste Not.

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It's a ton of fun but loses handily to any deck with a clear game plan.


The wincon is to constantly attack with Bloodsoaked champion (B, 2/1, raid-1B return to battlefield), thornbow archer (B, 1/1, when it attacks, opponents lose a life if they have no elves) and zombie tokens while they have no hand. Not the most elegant gameplan but the extra cards, mana, and zombies I get from waste not usually mean I can constantly have more creatures on the field than my opponent.

Also it has the new lilliana.

It wins against bad decks and decks that are short on creature control, uses fun cards like waste not and lilliana AND makes my friends mad at me when it destroys their entire hand.

Are there any straight up discard cards in standard that compete with/surpass mind rot? I already have thoughtseize and duress but I would optimally like a card that causes them to draw and then discard. Common late game pitfalls occur when I have 2x waste not on the field, a handful of chump blockers but the opponent is able to just draw and play their hand before my turn.

I guess I could make it U/B hand destruction control but that's not as fun as beatdown hand destruction.

I'd post a decklist but it's not on me at the moment but it has the new version of fleshbag (2B, enters battlefield, both players sac a creature) and sign in blood. What's the good mono B removal in standard? I'm using phalaka's curse as a janky spot removal tool
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